VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B3] [Braindrop]

[Shelscott50]

It's the poor writing. I think whatever Braindrop is going through, it's leaking into his writing. So he need to reevaluate his life and take a break.

I said in a previous post, he needs to take up guitar lessons or go on camping trip with his family or something . Because his head isn't right. Him doing these episodes is not good at all. Because the writing is somewhat terrible.

He is wasting time and resources when he could be working on the main game. But first he needs to back away from it. Maybe take a month or 3 to clear his head. Get some help. Spend some time with his family.

Maybe he should get a job and do this part time. Whatever he thinks he's doing, it's not working.

I Used to LOVE this Game. I would Look forward to Every New release.
Then, Disaster struck in 2/2020 or 21; when BD's Beloved Aunt passed away; which BD claimed that Azel's character was based from his Aunt...From there a downward spiral.

I'm Not Sure If This would REALLY help or not; maybe BD Should STOP the ruining (taking in Bad direction) current WVM.
- Maybe Consider doing a REMASTERED Version, from Scratch; where He Re-renders Azel from the Beginning.
Or Maybe, just Write-out Azel's character, Period. (excuse: She (Azel) cannot be, and does not want to be apart of MC's harem.),or (with Wendy re-entering MC's life; Azel does not want to 'be in the way' of their relationship.
Feels that she is no longer needed.) She asks Rachael for a job and moves away.
MC & girls would be heartbroken, but life must go on.
Wendy Can be the New 'Harem Mom'.

- The Last time I played WVM was just before the "Big Party". where all the girls wore white bikinis;
most, If not all, were 'given' assigned positions. Before the Big Exposition game.
- Just before party, Jamie & Liz's Mom arrives.
Things kinda went to Hell after this.

I have Not played "Ditlo:Harper" yet. Not sure that I Want to.
- Harper Is One of my favorite Characters. Love Natalie like a sister.

A "Remastered" version 'Progress' Is Better than No Progress at all. Just saying.
-He (Braindrop) MIGHT Be able to re-invent/Help himself in the process.

I am NOT saying this to be Mean, or insensitive. I REALLY HATE What happened to him.
But He Needs to 'get off the sympathy train' and get back to work! He Needs to Finish what He started!

I think, IMO, that things with Damien* Could have been handled BETTER.(It was too harsh.)
- (handled privately between Lauren, Harper & MC) - "You MUST agree to these terms, or else you will be expelled."
- 6 mo. Academic probation.
- 2 mo suspension from team (benched) - Must attend ALL practices. may play in Expo game.
- MC's & Damien's friendship - MC's discretion.

Damien didn't REALLY do anything wrong; except violate MC's privacy, and his betrayal to Jasmine.
- Choosing to clear his conscious at the Bowling Night. To Make things Right!
- Ryker clearly crossed a line that Damien was Not ready to cross(that doesn't remove his previous sins)
* understanding that DEV just wanted Damien 'out of the way'; for a Jasmine relationship w/ MC.

 

[Alex5280]

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Sup guys.
I just felt like typing some shit out. I know I said the next thoughts post would be on the 2nd but I'm feeling a certain type of way and I just know what I have to do even if you guys won't like it.

It's no secret that shit has been fucked for a while.
It all starts and stops with me, and I've been on quite the self destructive journey lately.
Things kept clashing together in the worst ways at the worst times and I let myself slowly fall into this mental block.
I can't describe the mental side of this shit. All I can say is that putting the actual update out is simultaneously something that I know has to be done and I want to do, and is also something that I dread having to do.
The pressure, the expectations, the finality of it all.
It's all self imposed issues. I know that, I'm not trying to deny it.

It's almost been a year since the last actual update. A fucking year.
There's so much work done but none of it has been shown and it's the most frustrating thing. I hate this, I hate feeling incapable.
The obvious question is "What's stopping you from releasing it?"
And I don't have a good answer. Anytime I sit down and package it and think about calling it done, I get this deep guttural feeling of dread. I'm so fucking mentally blocked up and I don't know why.
I fucking wish I did.
It's not something I think about once and then put off for a month. It is all day every single day.
But I've been doing everything I can to get away from it. To try and put it off but it's impossible.
My wife mentioned to me about how she thinks I'm worried to call it quits on it because then everything that has happened this year is over. It means I'm over it and it shouldn't.
There's so fucking much that I haven't told you guys about shit that has happened because I hate sounding like a fucking excuse robot. There's been so many times where I've typed out these long rant posts just to ctrl+w at the end. (Don't try that command unless you're tired of reading this btw)
Working on WVM has always been an escape for me... and something about stopping the work that I was doing when all of these things happened feels like I'm closing away that part of my life... I think.
Does it really make sense? No, but it just... it is what it is I don't know what else to say.
I've been stuck and I want out. I need out.
And that brings me to this next part.

I made the DITLO with Harper and I had a fucking blast making it. It was fun to write... hell it was even fun to edit the images (Which is usually the biggest bore for me).
And... it was even fun to release.
Sure, it may not be what you guys really wanted right now. Sure, it may suck that she was censored in it. I get it, but that's not what really matters.
It was the first time in nearly a year that I felt good about releasing something.
Like really good, I feel great right now which is insane.

There's many reasons for that but the important bit for this is that it made me realize what I need to do.
I've asked about it before and you guys overwhelmingly said to hold off and release the update in full all at once.
And I do agree that that way would be the best for the game and the best overall experience... but I can't. Trust me, I want to... but I can't.
The simplest way I can put it is that there's too much instant finality to it. I put a piece of me into every part of this game and I think it makes it a good game but it also makes situations like these... really hard to let go of.
When it's over... life goes back to normal. And that scares the fuck out of me right now.
But it has to be over.

Part of me says that I should just rip the band aid off but I'm legitimately scared of things going poorly and me ending up in an even worst spot.
There's so much emotionally put into this update... it's fucking rough man.

I've always enjoyed small consistent releases... mostly. I get the most short term enjoyment from them but I don't feel like they're what's best for the game in a developmental aspect. And I've become incapable of the consistent part anyway.
So... instead of ripping the band aid off I'm going to slowly peel and chew at the bastard until it's gone.
I'm going to sit down and parse the update out in chunks that make sense to me and I'm going to release those chunks.
I'm going to allow myself to work on some of the scenes again... there are a few that I genuinely think I can improve rather easily and quickly. I'm not going to let myself go into perfectionist mode... and that's not what this has been about. I don't think anyway.

I can do it in chunks... I'm not going to pretend like I won't be stressed or be bogged down by that dread feeling... but I can manage it.
It has to get done.
I really tried to do it the way that most of you wanted it to be... I did.
I still want to do it that way but I simply can't I'm sorry.

I'm going to hold off on the character sheets and bday renders that were planned and focus on getting the update chunked out before releasing those.

And ultimately if you want to wait for all of it to be out then you're free to do so.
I just know that this is the only way for me to get out of this block I'm in right now.
I thought letting enough time pass would let me heal enough but the pressure of the update is really slowing that stuff down.

I do apologize for going this route after asking how you guys wanted it.
It's out of necessity though and I hope you understand.

I'll have info about update sizes and dates soon.
Thanks for caring enough to read my brain vomit.
Love you guys and talk to you soon.

(Oh and each release for this will be available to all patrons and former patrons (Through discord))

I was giving BD the benefit of the doubt, but this is all sounding like the update isn't anywhere near being done and he is just making excuses to buy himself more time. I suspect, if he actually does start releasing the update, it will be 200-300 render updates once a month. You know, like what he was releasing before this long hiatus. Time will tell.

That said, I do hope he starts releasing some main story content soon, but I won't be holding my breath.

 

[RR6612]

Haha ok I had a laugh when he censored Harper, i mean that just seems like a troll to me.

Let's see what next for cult simulator.

 

[Avaron1974]

Damien didn't REALLY do anything wrong; except violate MC's privacy, and his betrayal to Jasmine.
- Choosing to clear his conscious at the Bowling Night. To Make things Right!
- Ryker clearly crossed a line that Damien was Not ready to cross(that doesn't remove his previous sins)
* understanding that DEV just wanted Damien 'out of the way'; for a Jasmine relationship w/ MC.

It wasn't harsh enough.

People got hurt because of Damien, he should have had the shit kicked out of him.

I'm Not Sure If This would REALLY help or not; maybe BD Should STOP the ruining (taking in Bad direction) current WVM.
- Maybe Consider doing a REMASTERED Version, from Scratch;

I don't think that would help BD much but a remaster would pretty much kill the game or at least severely hurt it.

People here, me included, have a severe hatred for remasters. They halt content and very rarely improve the game, also usually lead to games being abandoned.

If a dev wants to remaster their game then do it AFTER it's complete when it doesn't piss on your playerbase.

 

[conscientious objector]

Maybe he did it because he needed a break and so made this to take his mind of the main game.
He may of done it as an experiment.
Or to trial a technique so he dosen't effect the main game.

That sounds like Gumdrop not Braindrop. No one wants that. And... judging by the reactions, no one wants this either.

Why does every Dev do shit like this like clockwork lol.

Amazing.

I don't believe for a second that every one of these devs has mental health problems. It just isn't statistically likely that this profession of indy porn game dev either attracts people with or causes mental health issues at such a high rate. I mean it's every fucking time a big game like this hits development hell they all say the same shit. Not buying it, don't care if that's insensitive.

I think the truth is they have some skills and very few prospects, either just out of college or in a mid life rut. They fall in love with the idea of making a game and they get some success, but quickly they realize that it's actual work. Then they stop being in love with the game and it's just a chore that they don't really even have to do anymore to make money, because the patreon business model allows them to rake in cash while doing nothing.

Stop believing all the bullshit they're telling their patrons while they're trying to get them to remain patrons. It's a sales pitch. Until he shows something we can only assume he has nothing, because nothing is all we've seen from this game in the last year.

 

[FreshRevenge]

I was reviewing this picture I think it's pretty much what Brain Drop is feeling about this game.

Your Braindrop is a failure. and I (Braindrop) was just thinking about how different my life could have been... If I never had (WVM) you. So, it looks like he is channeling his grief and frustration into the game. Which probably is not the healthiest way to handle it since it does paint these characters in a dark and tainted picture. If he was fine, I don't think this would even be in the game.

 

[Avaron1974]

I don't believe for a second that every one of these devs has mental health problems. It just isn't statistically likely that this profession of indy porn game dev either attracts people with or causes mental health issues at such a high rate. I mean it's every fucking time a big game like this hits development hell they all say the same shit. Not buying it, don't care if that's insensitive.

That's the big problem, the "i've got mental health/i'm ill" excuses are a meme now they have been done that much.

It also splits the playerbase.

On one hand you've got BD's fans that believe everything he says and on the other you've got those that think he's lying because he's burnt out.

I don't know what the truth is but I have seen the excuse used far too many times and it has made me sceptical.

 

[Joshua Tree]

That sounds like Gumdrop not Braindrop. No one wants that. And... judging by the reactions, no one wants this either.

Well they got something in common.... Both started to release something again after a long time, and it was stuff no one asked for or wanted. Need to look out for creators with"drop" in their name.

Bad phuns and jokes aside. Creators free to do whatever the f they want and feel like. Just as the people that pledge to them can get off the carousel when they don't like the ride anylonger. Serves no purpose to name call etc. People getting annoyed feeling they get served up one excuse after the other, a whole other thing though.

 

[jamdan]

This game went from one of the most hyped games around to literally driving itself off a cliff so quickly. BD is now banning Patrons when they ask critical questions? Not good. This thread, at least in the early days, was always an echo chamber of praise for BD. But if he is at the point where he can't deal with valid critiques, this game is doomed.

But this has probably been simmering for a while. Maybe even since the game began. Those bi-weekly updates he used to do aren't sustainable. So he slowed down. And then he released updates every few months. Then he slowed down more. And now he has a 2k render update that has almost been ready for months. And he hasn't released it, because he slowed down even more. Assuming that 2k render update actually exists, we've heard that one before from other devs.

It's like running a marathon. He sprinted out of the gates, and exhausted himself. Now he has a pulled hamstring, a twisted ankle and on his last few drops of water. Will he make it to the finish line? I doubt it. Very sad that this game has turned into a "what not to do" for future devs. And this doesn't even account for any of his mental health issues.

 

[Ghostly Hale]

...the end? Not seeing a light with this guy's. Let's be honest, one of the biggest teases can't be smashed the long lost sis can't be smashed and the dev is having a prolonged meltdown. So, story yeeted substance retreated meat not beated. Feels bad man.

 

[Matt2012021]

didn't like the update but didn't hate it either not a fan of devs doing side updates rather focus on main story but that just might be be

 

[conscientious objector]

That's the big problem, the "i've got mental health/i'm ill" excuses are a meme now they have been done that much.

It also splits the playerbase.

On one hand you've got BD's fans that believe everything he says and on the other you've got those that think he's lying because he's burnt out.

I don't know what the truth is but I have seen the excuse used far too many times and it has made me sceptical.

You're absolutely right. It's shitty to feel this way about such a serious issue, but they've cried wolf too many times. I would be the first to say we have to believe what people are saying, in mental health, domestic abuse, anything really. If they're saying it, there's a reason. But the caveat here is that there's money to be made and there's been too many sleazy opportunists muddying the waters. So, I'm done believing it and would hope that other people learn to just move on from these devs until they give us some actual content to talk about and enjoy.

 

[Joshua Tree]

That's the big problem, the "i've got mental health/i'm ill" excuses are a meme now they have been done that much.

It also splits the playerbase.

On one hand you've got BD's fans that believe everything he says and on the other you've got those that think he's lying because he's burnt out.

I don't know what the truth is but I have seen the excuse used far too many times and it has made me sceptical.

I'm old enough to have experienced a few hard knocks and mental scars. I couldn't very well just step off and let the world keep churn without me. Everyone sooner or later get dinged up and catch a few blows. You can relate to others who get into certain situations. I know not everyone is built the same, and can endure the same, but sometimes things feels a bit "over the top". Tbh, I rather would hear a creator say they burnt out, feed up and need a break. Because I think that is more the reality of things, and would be more honest.

 

[Sotak]

I am.curious about 1 thing:

How TF is the android of the DITLO minigame a bigger download than the android of the main game?

 

[JB08]

Can we bang emiko, hannah, kimmy, yuki, purple, or rainn yet?

 

[Smarmint]

I know this won't be a popular opinion around here, but why not just stop? It is obvious Braindrop's heart isn't in it anymore, and it seems to be causing him a lot of mental issues. Maybe in the beginning, WVM was a welcome distraction from whatever was going on in Braindrop's life, but clearly not anymore. According to the last couple of years of BDs posts, WVM has become the albatross around his neck.

Honestly, as much fun as I have had playing WVM as a bit of mindless escapism, I think it's time for Braindrop to just stop. Focus on his family and his day job (or get one).

Also, as an aside, this kind of release is really counterproductive. For those of us that love Harper as a character, it's kind of an insult. More than kind of. Put it in the story, release it, or forget about it. I haven't played it, but censorship? At this point, I think BD has trolled us all enough. Don't put in the scene if you feel it should be censored, give me a break.

 

[katabasi]

from updates with 1800 renders to 169 in 7 months AND not even updating the main game
am i reading stuff right?

 

[Deximay]

No and there never will be, she's the main girl.

Meh, I'd break up with everyone just to have Rachel as my main girl in a heart bit.

 

[Myscho]

Man, was excited for some action with pink haired girl and after all this months still nada

 

[Weasel_Face]

Harp is my fav character in the game so when I saw the ditlo I was over the moon until it turned into a japanese porn mosaic.
At that point I just deleted it. SMH...