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bluetack_man

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Why not play and watch, the game is wonderful, it’s a pleasure to play.
Well I was going to wait for the remake, because last time I played a few characters popped up that I didn't recognise and it was because they are introduced in the remake and I thought that was a bit weird.

But yeah maybe you're right, I'll give it a look!
 

Lokitox8

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Has anybody mention how bad the renders of Moon at the basketball game look (look like she wearing Sims Clothes) and her body looks different, she was not that fat and looks smaller than before. I think out of all the characters remade the best one was Emiko. Everybody has gained weight or their ass and tits gotten bigger. So sad to see how bad of a turn this VN has taken.
 

_doodle_

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Has anybody mention how bad the renders of Moon at the basketball game look (look like she wearing Sims Clothes) and her body looks different, she was not that fat and looks smaller than before. I think out of all the characters remade the best one was Emiko. Everybody has gained weight or their ass and tits gotten bigger. So sad to see how bad of a turn this VN has taken.
people have been pointing out that most of the girls get thicker each update. look at jaime in the preview pics. shes a slim thick. she still is even. just a thicker lower half.
 

Squidgoggle

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I just noticed this, why is pic 10 blurred? and who is it? hard to tell
It is Harper from DITLO and it is blurred because when it was released she had yet to be naked in game - there is an uncesored version planned - or so the dev claims anyways.. That pic is from a Dev report in July where the planned content of an uncensored version of DITLO for Harper and a DITLO for Jasmine are put on hold. He hasn't really mentioned it since..
 
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_doodle_

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It is Harper from DITLO and it is blurred because when it was released she had yet to be naked in game - there is an uncesored version planned - or so the dev claims anyways.. That pic is from a Dev report in July where the planned content of an uncensored version of DITLO for Harper and a DITLO for Jasmine are put on hold. He hasn't really mentioned it since..
so the day in the life game is censored?
 

RegAdd

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so the day in the life game is censored?
DITLO Harper specifically is, yes. It's also not a game. It's just a side story. Think of it as an extended cut scene since it occurs alongside the actual game, but it's just a kinetic novel with no interactions.
 
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I'm trying not to add any more complaints, but this is more of a honest question. What has been the longest period of time that Braindrop has gone between posting game updates, like the acutal playable update (not including DITLO). Just wondering so I have a fair comparison.

Thanks everyone.
 

Shouki

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I'm trying not to add any more complaints, but this is more of a honest question. What has been the longest period of time that Braindrop has gone between posting game updates, like the acutal playable update (not including DITLO). Just wondering so I have a fair comparison.

Thanks everyone.
It was... 1,5 years I think? Something like that. There may have been a minor update in that time that I don't remember but yeah, it was pretty long. Or my memory is playing tricks on me and someone can correct me. :D
 

Grif1001

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It was... 1,5 years I think? Something like that. There may have been a minor update in that time that I don't remember but yeah, it was pretty long. Or my memory is playing tricks on me and someone can correct me. :D
I'm not really sure, I was a supporter early on, but I gave up after 6 months of nothing but continuous excuses. BD either lies, or has the worst luck in the world (in which case I feel very sorry for him. but it was one after another of "I'm sick with a rare condition that limits me to 2 hours a day looking at a screen for the next 2 months while I heal, someone close to me died, I have the flu, I'm in depression because of the death, my computer is over heating, relationship issues, my computer's water cooling system sprang a leak, I'm sick again" always followed by, "But the update is coming along and only needs a little more work."

That being said, when he did finally release an update I noticed that the new house was totally changed, in that almost every surface had had texture or color alterations from the standard asset packs and was game specific, the most obvious is his room being decked out in WVM colors. So he did make tons of tiny little changes that add to the over all aesthetic, but his attention to detail is way greater than anything players typically notice or care much about. it does add for the immersive quality when you aren't constantly thinking, hey, that was also in this other game. but yeah, he takes it a bit into overkill.
 

Shouki

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Well thank god I don't acutally pay for this then, LOL.
I mean, to be fair, there are games that can take longer between updates, or like 1 at most 2 updates a year. Though the update after the long pause was not that long here.
My problem is mostly the transparancy - or to be exact the lack of it - here. And I can understand why people don't want to support him after that and with how the weekly updates went. Overpromising and underdelivering is always a bad business move.
 

Shouki

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I'm not really sure, I was a supporter early on, but I gave up after 6 months of nothing but continuous excuses. BD either lies, or has the worst luck in the world (in which case I feel very sorry for him. but it was one after another of "I'm sick with a rare condition that limits me to 2 hours a day looking at a screen for the next 2 months while I heal, someone close to me died, I have the flu, I'm in depression because of the death, my computer is over heating, relationship issues, my computer's water cooling system sprang a leak, I'm sick again" always followed by, "But the update is coming along and only needs a little more work."

That being said, when he did finally release an update I noticed that the new house was totally changed, in that almost every surface had had texture or color alterations from the standard asset packs and was game specific, the most obvious is his room being decked out in WVM colors. So he did make tons of tiny little changes that add to the over all aesthetic, but his attention to detail is way greater than anything players typically notice or care much about. it does add for the immersive quality when you aren't constantly thinking, hey, that was also in this other game. but yeah, he takes it a bit into overkill.
Agree, there were visible changes, as he said that he would need some time for it. Like the house after the game.
My problem is exactly what you said - he takes it into overkill. He either has no concrete ideas and just rolls with what he comes up with, then changes on the fly, or he is seriously overthinking every render. And I do not think that either of those is a great way of doing it. Not sure how he did it at the start, as he updated it like once a month or so by the time I started playing it, and I heard that he did it like once every week or 2 at the start.

Were the renders top quality at that time? Not really, no. Were they at least decent, and quite a few good faces mixed in with them? Yes. Were they consistent? Definitely. So from a laymans perspective, there seems to have been a change somewhere, and it took him down a line which I personnaly don't like that much.

But here is to hoping that it could get better. (Who am I kidding, this is just wishful thinking.)
 

TigerWolfe

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Agree, there were visible changes, as he said that he would need some time for it. Like the house after the game.
My problem is exactly what you said - he takes it into overkill. He either has no concrete ideas and just rolls with what he comes up with, then changes on the fly, or he is seriously overthinking every render. And I do not think that either of those is a great way of doing it. Not sure how he did it at the start, as he updated it like once a month or so by the time I started playing it, and I heard that he did it like once every week or 2 at the start.

Were the renders top quality at that time? Not really, no. Were they at least decent, and quite a few good faces mixed in with them? Yes. Were they consistent? Definitely. So from a laymans perspective, there seems to have been a change somewhere, and it took him down a line which I personnaly don't like that much.

But here is to hoping that it could get better. (Who am I kidding, this is just wishful thinking.)
Honestly I think the success and also constant critique has gotten into his head which feeds into the loop you're talking about. Not everyone has the mental fortitude to handle the ire of the internet, I know I sure wouldn't.
 

karumi56

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Honestly I think the success and also constant critique has gotten into his head which feeds into the loop you're talking about. Not everyone has the mental fortitude to handle the ire of the internet, I know I sure wouldn't.
Except that doesn't fly at all with BD's admitted tendency to be a contrarian and do the opposite of what people are telling him to do. Fans demand incest. BD teases it endlessly and ridiculously while stating it will never happen. Fans complain about duck lips. Extra, mega duck lips for all!. It goes on.

This is not the reaction of someone cowed by the "ire of the internet". It is someone raising the middle finger repeatedly to it.

BD has said in the past that the rapid success of WVM did overwhelm him and make him doubt himself a lot, wondering if he deserved the success. That probably has a lot to do with the giant mess of the pool scene and the year and half plus hiatus he took.

But blaming the critics? Really? That's almost comical given his behavior.
 

TigerWolfe

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Except that doesn't fly at all with BD's admitted tendency to be a contrarian and do the opposite of what people are telling him to do. Fans demand incest. BD teases it endlessly and ridiculously while stating it will never happen. Fans complain about duck lips. Extra, mega duck lips for all!. It goes on.

This is not the reaction of someone cowed by the "ire of the internet". It is someone raising the middle finger repeatedly to it.

BD has said in the past that the rapid success of WVM did overwhelm him and make him doubt himself a lot, wondering if he deserved the success. That probably has a lot to do with the giant mess of the pool scene and the year and half plus hiatus he took.

But blaming the critics? Really? That's almost comical given his behavior.
Being a contrarian is a pretty common defense mechanism to anxiety. It allows the person to feel like they have some semblance of control while they're drowning. I do not think that it's remotely comical to suggest that the typical over the top backlash that devs routinely receive on these boards for even the slightest "transgression" could be a contributing factor to anxiety on BD's part, especially when paired with that self doubt and overwhelm that they already admitted to.

Just my 2 cents as a person with a bucket load of mental health issues, married to someone with pretty intense anxiety.
 
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