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Also, I'm wondering what happen with that Kemono FAQ/About page they implemented around the shitshow they had with Twitter. Did they got rid of it or what?
I didn't even notice that. :unsure:

It was likely removed very quickly, or I just never paid attention.
 

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I don't mean to rush (I'm just curious) but how close are you to being ready?
Relayed on Discord since I took over my hate to post what RD8K asked there.

(Might also be the last time since I went all out at one of the server administrators.)

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The EH administrator isn't the one managing 99% of the things. There is only one admin on EH and the vice-admin permanently vanished last year (and is not coming back, that would be hard).
 
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TitaniumDickDiamondBalls

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Relayed on Discord since I took over my hate to post what RD8K asked there.

(Might also be the last time since I went all out at one of the server administrators.)

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The EH administrator isn't the one managing 99% of the things. There is only one admin on EH and the vice-admin permanently vanished last year (and is not coming back, that would be hard).
I mean 10b(admin) is semi retired as he has some hand injury which affects his coding perf and the person who used to be second in command (at least power wise) died to COVID. I think he already had heath problems or was disabled. Don't know details. Never was interested in details.
 

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What I meant here is the admin was aware of the resources he'd need and that's the reason he created H@H a bunch of years ago. If Kemono doesn't somehow have billions in BTC from the support page to fund extra backend servers, it won't take long for China to overload it.
 
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I'm surprised this didn't happen earlier. :sneaky:
 
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KP seems to still be working fine ATM. Every page loads at good speeds; and posts fullsize-load at reasonable speeds (unless you're in a hurry). Looks like they're trying to re-implement "predictive/active" search too which is cool, although it only half works ATM (results only update after you "click somewhere" on the page, so it still needs a bit of work).

The only 2 problems I can think of are: It seems like everything I can remember uploading to any artist via [upload file] is randomly dead now, and the 'Data.Kemono' download speed (although it could just be a busy day) is quite slow at 150kbps on average (500mbit line). But if downloading small packs its no biggie, I can wait.

Anyway I'll try re-uploading all the stuff thats gone over the next couple of nights. Theres 1 huge pack from LMSketch/Legoman I want to upload, but at 1.9GB, I'm not sure what the chances of it working are. If the uploader is a lot more stable than it was a few months ago it might work though, so f*ck it, I'll still try.

Edit: NVM, file uploading is disabled again aaargh.
 
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KemonoDev Whose server is KP, whose is MH and whose is that partychan thing? Also, any way to contact them *except* for Discord and Telegram? Thanks in advance for the reply, I'm sure this will help others here who are a bit in the dark.
 
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I don't mean to rush (I'm just curious) but how close are you to being ready?
Extremely, the server is ready and the data has been transferred. Only problem is that the dump Business/Sloppy handed over is missing user icons and thumbnails, so all of those have to be regenerated/redownloaded if he doesn't respond to my messages asking for him to fix them. Should only take a few days to fix myself. Also, the site will likely release in read-only, until the importer can be tested, and patched if necessary.

KemonoDev Whose server is KP, whose is MH and whose is that partychan thing? Also, any way to contact them *except* for Discord and Telegram? Thanks in advance for the reply, I'm sure this will help others here who are a bit in the dark.
I might be misunderstanding your question, but the answers to the first two are kinda obvious... KP's servers are mine, Memoryhole's servers are Memoryhole's. Partychan's servers belong to the owner of the late Ofans.party.
Contact "them?" Who are you referring to?
 

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the site will likely release in read-only
I'll be honest, I'm not really a "read-only" person.
To quote Gaston from Beauty & the Beast;
"How can you read this? There's no pictures!"
I'm kinda worried on how this would effect the pictures/gifs, videos, and games.
 
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I'll be honest, I'm not really a "read-only" person.
To quote Gaston from Beauty & the Beast;
"How can you read this? There's no pictures!"
I'm kinda worried on how this would effect the pictures/gifs, videos, and games.
I meant read-only as in "you cannot import or upload yet." Images and videos will all be there.
 

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I might be misunderstanding your question, but the answers to the first two are kinda obvious... KP's servers are mine, Memoryhole's servers are Memoryhole's. Partychan's servers belong to the owner of the late Ofans.party.
Contact "them?" Who are you referring to?
I'll bring RD8K, Afro-Herbalist, Waifusgalore and TitaniumDickDiamondBalls here too.

Thanks for highlighting that Kemono belongs to you and partychan belongs to the former ofans.party's owner(?)

From the (forced, last resort) discord quickchat:

Sofie: "We don't manage Kemono. While Shino may reply [...]" - This pretty much means "Kemono code discussion goes in talk-room", where 99% is meme talk or MemoryHole logos.
Sofie: "This is their server, not ours." - Knew that but wanted to point out how ironic it was not to have a separate contact endpoint, or at least channel subset, for each one.
Sofie: "We would appreciate it if you remembered that in the future." - So don't mention Kemono on the MemoryHole discord when it's about code. Makes sense, in fact, since it's meant for MemoryHole. Also, I guess it was a really, really big mistake (and I don't even know what went through my mind here) to try and defend the furry fetish vs real porn when I dislike furry myself (but respect the userbase and their tastes as long as they don't grow cancerous or force it), and Sofie made it clear in the past that the approach to remove realporn made them upset and all content should be allowed (hello RL snuff movies and CP).

I hate discord (just no), telegram (no apps thank you), twitter (even in the open, there's no salvation), *and* any kind of 4chan/8chanspawn (hello captchas and shitposts) so apologies if this sounds a bit rude, but feel free to fix any inconsistencies in there, after trying to make some sense from both what was said in discord and what you just said:

- Kemono belongs to you (KemonoDev), aka Shino, and reachable ways are: F95 (not really convenient for you I'd say, but the most viable), twitter (lolno), telegram (even more lolno), discord (welp), or protonmail (for more obscure things). Code is JavaScript and Python.
- MemoryHole belongs to Sofie, reachable ways: discord. Code is TypeScript, Kotlin and Java.
- Seiso belongs to Sam (not our Sam, that discord Sam), again: discord. Code: Didn't check.
- ofans/partychan belongs to, I suppose, Thinker, since the discord was started by Thinker even though the user is pretty idle. Reading literally six months of backlog was just too much, even with almost zero offtopic.

I'm sure some of the pinged users might be able to shorten all of this a little bit, but in any case, thank you very much for the quick reply and trying to make things less confusing.

Again, thank you, and apologies for the rather rude-sounding post. Just trying to make sure importers will consistently be able to work along with downloaders without both sides being rekt or going what the fuck just happened. :)

Edit: Added the obvious F95.
 
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KemonoDev

I'm surprised this didn't happen earlier. :sneaky:
Also, forgot to point this one out, I believe, sorry.

- Some users consistently spam the mostly unfinished request list
- Votes are pretty much useless unless they are meant to shill certain early users (or collect IPs, even after proper hashing and database calls are implemented). I also believe they are disabled at the moment but just in case, maybe disable them completely for the time being?
- Many trolling requests need a quickwipe (pointed out by RD8K)
- Requests may also need an edit/delete feature (mistakes might happen, though it's still unlikely if the user isn't a complete idiot and does exactly as stated - however, many requests right now *are* being made by complete idiots who don't even read the stuff you put in there for them to read)

And also quoting this post just in case:
Then why haven't they just clean up the troll requests that idiots posted on the request list? Then where are the updates about MH? all I been getting is it been working on secretly compare to what Kemono Party development. I not even sure if it even existed atm and it just code right now. Did you asked him if it due to it being easy to manage bandwidth then it it to increased storage? Because that can be more understandable. However, that point comes off "pretending to be unaware" of the bugs like content/creators not being imported or duplication pages mess up importing. On top of that, Importers have to deal with a 2 GB upload limitation for packs that ranges to 6-8GB larger for certain creators releases. Leaving it not knowing if the system can tell if it spam or not when we break those packs into parts and spam upload 40+ .rar files per creator.
 

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Not quite sure what I can being to the discussion here. I'm mostly itnerested in pointing out glaring bugs to fix them fast. Maybe it's better to start new issues threads on Git ?
 

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Not quite sure what I can being to the discussion here. I'm mostly itnerested in pointing out glaring bugs to fix them fast. Maybe it's better to start new issues threads on Git ?
This is actually a very good point. I didn't see many issues in the issue tracker for Kemono. :)

(Only for the code ones imo as the server wipe stuff isn't exactly something KemonoDev and contributors can fix via github.)
 

TitaniumDickDiamondBalls

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This is actually a very good point. I didn't see many issues in the issue tracker for Kemono. :)

(Only for the code ones imo as the server wipe stuff isn't exactly something KemonoDev and contributors can fix via github.)
UI remarks also can go there or just back-end related?
 

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UI remarks also can go there or just back-end related?
Would have to wait for KemonoDev to reply just to be sure but I suppose they can since they directly involve code as well. And if KemonoDev doesn't exactly mind the automated wipe suggestions, that can also be part of code enhancements.
 

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Also, I guess it was a really, really big mistake (and I don't even know what went through my mind here) to try and defend the furry fetish vs real porn when I dislike furry myself (but respect the userbase and their tastes as long as they don't grow cancerous or force it), and Sofie made it clear in the past that the approach to remove realporn made them upset and all content should be allowed (hello RL snuff movies and CP).
That was the most casual way of putting it. However it was mostly drawings & 3D animations vs reaction videos & real life porn. I already made my argument that they have a better case for loli content being posted on the platform. Allow real life porn let a group of malicious people use that as a shield to post illegel porn or CP as a cover. What we saw before from Tumblr & Pornhub way of getting rid of it was to scorch the entire platform, nearly destroying them as a result.

After knowing this, are they REALLY gonna to be hands off and allow everything like they say on their platform? Because their going to be a situation were those type of illegal content are gonna to be spreading like wild fire and it will be impossible to get rid off easy without purging the platform. So they're gonna to end up in real shit in no time. I don't want another 8chan situation..
 

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RD8K That's my understanding of it at least yeah. And while I fully agree that caving in to community demands is a big mistake, allowing just about anything and taking action 'only when necessary' is... another big mistake. But that's MemoryHole's approach so oh well.

Even if they're deep underground, governments raid that kind of shit every single day the instant they notice it.
 
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I'll bring RD8K, Afro-Herbalist, Waifusgalore and TitaniumDickDiamondBalls here too.

Thanks for highlighting that Kemono belongs to you and partychan belongs to the former ofans.party's owner(?)

From the (forced, last resort) discord quickchat:

Sofie: "We don't manage Kemono. While Shino may reply [...]" - This pretty much means "Kemono code discussion goes in talk-room", where 99% is meme talk or MemoryHole logos.
Sofie: "This is their server, not ours." - Knew that but wanted to point out how ironic it was not to have a separate contact endpoint, or at least channel subset, for each one.
Sofie: "We would appreciate it if you remembered that in the future." - So don't mention Kemono on the MemoryHole discord when it's about code. Makes sense, in fact, since it's meant for MemoryHole. Also, I guess it was a really, really big mistake (and I don't even know what went through my mind here) to try and defend the furry fetish vs real porn when I dislike furry myself (but respect the userbase and their tastes as long as they don't grow cancerous or force it), and Sofie made it clear in the past that the approach to remove realporn made them upset and all content should be allowed (hello RL snuff movies and CP).

I hate discord (just no), telegram (no apps thank you), twitter (even in the open, there's no salvation), *and* any kind of 4chan/8chanspawn (hello captchas and shitposts) so apologies if this sounds a bit rude, but feel free to fix any inconsistencies in there, after trying to make some sense from both what was said in discord and what you just said:

- Kemono belongs to you (KemonoDev), aka Shino, and reachable ways are: F95 (not really convenient for you I'd say, but the most viable), twitter (lolno), telegram (even more lolno), discord (welp), or protonmail (for more obscure things). Code is JavaScript and Python.
- MemoryHole belongs to Sofie, reachable ways: discord. Code is TypeScript, Kotlin and Java.
- Seiso belongs to Sam (not our Sam, that discord Sam), again: discord. Code: Didn't check.
- ofans/partychan belongs to, I suppose, Thinker, since the discord was started by Thinker even though the user is pretty idle. Reading literally six months of backlog was just too much, even with almost zero offtopic.

I'm sure some of the pinged users might be able to shorten all of this a little bit, but in any case, thank you very much for the quick reply and trying to make things less confusing.

Again, thank you, and apologies for the rather rude-sounding post. Just trying to make sure importers will consistently be able to work along with downloaders without both sides being rekt or going what the fuck just happened. :)

Edit: Added the obvious F95.
Contact methods ranked from best to worst;
- Telegram (check several times daily, will respond within a few minutes, to a few hours if I'm busy or sleeping)
- Protonmail (check less, but will still respond within a few hours)
- F95Zone (I actually don't come to this place for anything but this thread. Expect a response within a day or two.)
- Discord (I really don't like it and only made an account because of MH's decision to communicate there. Expect a response within 2-3 days.)
- Twitter (I don't even manage this myself. Don't expect a response.)

Seiso belongs to Kuro. Don't think he uses Discord. Who the hell is Sam? Codebase is Kemono fork, so Python/Javascript as well.

Ofans belongs to Sloppy/Business. Don't think him and Thinker are the same person. Codebase is Node.js.
 
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