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I like Kagura fine, the issue for me is that apart from Shea their last few games have been heavily cuck/NTR/cheating and that's not my thing. Their upcoming releases look good though.
 

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The big problem with games that have both ntr and vanilla paths is that ntr paths usually gets WAY more content than vanilla, like whats even the point of adding vanilla when ntr takes 80% of the game.
That's why I like ideology in Friction so much. I don't care about the male characters at all in that, so I just turned the girls into sluts. But I believe the choice is there. If you wanna go vanilla or not, they are both kinda of well developed.
 
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That's why I like ideology in Friction so much. I don't care about the male characters at all in that, so I just turned the girls into sluts. But I believe the choice is there. If you wanna go vanilla or not, they are both kinda of well developed.
I wish Kagura Games translate correctly "Dark Elf Historia", "The Heiress", "Killing Time" and "Bitch Police". (same Dev than for "Ideology in Friction" and "Meritocracy of the Oni and Blade")

If they want to kill me from orgasm, simply announcing these 4 games at the same time would be enough to send me to heaven. xD
 
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Good Netorare games are far and few, most common issue is that the love in question doesn't feel legitimate and the famale lacks personality . Then game boils down to "oh no i' cheating, i don't want to be cheating but i can't move or act on my own thefore i will just let get myself get groped and fcked" . ( no she is not getting raped, and for the notion i rape is not cheating).
Or the typical "I have a nude picture of you, so now you have to let me fuck you or i will show it to your husband/boyfriend/whatever" scenario, which all the girls always agree on, as if their husband/whatever has never seen them naked... -.-
"I have a video of us fucking, so let group A fuck you or i will show it to your husband/whatever"
"I have a video of you fucking with group A, so let the entire town fuck you now" and so on...
 
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Good Netorare games are far and few, most common issue is that the love in question doesn't feel legitimate and the famale lacks personality . Then game boils down to "oh no i' cheating, i don't want to be cheating but i can't move or act on my own thefore i will just let get myself get groped and fcked" . ( no she is not getting raped, and for the notion i rape is not cheating).
I'm curious to know what you call rape... For me, there is rape when they don't say "Yes". If they say nothing, it's rape. And from the point of view of justice/law, it's also rape. (in my country anyway) Because, when there is blackmail or molestation, there is psychological factor to take into account for their "no action"... (also, it's something dictated by instinct... like some animals play dead when in danger, for example)

When there is a position of domination from one forcing himself/herself onto another, it's always rape! Even if she/he is not physicaly forced but simply mentally dominated (like in case of incest between an older member of a familly forcing himself/herself onto a younger member, using his/her position as an elder member or using emotional blackmail ...)

If the woman/man didn't state a clear "yes" WITHOUT BEING FORCED TO SAY IT (by blackmail or torture, etc.) Then it will always be rape. (and saying "yes" after the don't legitimate it as "no rape" ==> "mind broken" girl/guy can't be considered sane enough to give their consenting)

In brief, she/he need to say "YES" from her/his own volition without external/outside influence/interference to manipulate and make her/him say it.
 
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Coercion is not rape. If you consent even if coerced into giving consent it's not rape. The only time coercion is rape is to protect yourself or another from violence, and violence in this context is only ever physical force.

No other definition is acceptable and attempts to change it is simply a way to expand a more serious crime into vastly less serious crimes or non criminal actions. You do not have the right to change the meaning of words.
 
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Coercion is not rape. If you consent even if coerced into giving consent it's not rape. The only time coercion is rape is to protect yourself or another from violence, and violence in this context is only ever physical force.

No other definition is acceptable and attempts to change it is simply a way to expand a more serious crime into vastly less serious crimes or non criminal actions. You do not have the right to change the meaning of words.
All mean used to force someone to have sex must be considered as rape... Psychologically or physically...
Well, I admit that I'm probably not "objective" on this topic.
 
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Terrible game in my opinion. For the first time i avoided H scenes and just went for combat. Love the combat, terrible cg, story and mc is literally braindead lol but w/e , it's my opinion :)
 
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Coercion is not rape. If you consent even if coerced into giving consent it's not rape. The only time coercion is rape is to protect yourself or another from violence, and violence in this context is only ever physical force.

No other definition is acceptable and attempts to change it is simply a way to expand a more serious crime into vastly less serious crimes or non criminal actions. You do not have the right to change the meaning of words.
I don't usually get involved in these debates but something I just wanted to point out.

Sexual coersion is a thing yes in the eyes of the law it is rape.

"Sexual coercion is unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way. Coercion can make you think you owe sex to someone. It might be from someone who has power over you, like a teacher, landlord, or a boss. No person is ever required to have sex with someone else.

Rape By FBI definition is penetration without consent and / or unwanted penetration. That can be Anal, oral, vagina it doesn't matter. Additionally let us look at some examples of situations that could be considered rape:

"A perpetrator can compel a victim into a penetrative sex act in multiple ways. A perpetrator can ignore verbal resistance – like saying “no,” “stop” or “I don’t want to” – or overpower physical resistance by holding a person down so they cannot move. A person can penetrate a victim who is incapable of giving consent because he or she is drunk, unconscious, asleep, or mentally or physically incapacitated; or can threaten or use physical force or a weapon against a person. Essentially, these methods either ignore or remove the person’s ability to make an autonomous decision about what happens to their body."

Pay special attention to the bolded text. That sounds a lot like sexual coercion doesn't it? Sorry but coercion is rape. Not trying to be a dick or cause an argument but i just get a little irritable when people try to sugar coat something like rape. Call a spade a spade this is a porn forum we don't judge.
 

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Yes, this game has rape. It's one of the genre tags in the OP. Not sure why someone is arguing to say that there isn't rape in this game when there very clearly is.

So long as those kinks stay in the fantasy realm of a video game, it's fine for the most part. People in real life have non-con fantasies that they often carry out in controlled environments with their significant others, so there's really no reason that others shouldn't be able to enjoy those fantasies through the use of games or storytelling. Because like I said in my last post, this is a video game and none of these characters are real. This is all make believe, my dudes.

If you are offended by something you see in a game, don't play that game.
 

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I don't usually get involved in these debates but something I just wanted to point out.
Sexual coersion is a thing yes in the eyes of the law it is rape.
I can quote insane and stupid legal codes right back at you. It doesn't make the laws correct, moral or even logically sound, only carrying the force of violence in their application.

Coercion is not rape.
Not trying to be a dick or cause an argument but i just get a little irritable when people try to sugar coat something like rape.
Not to be a dick by I get more than irritable when people try and dilute a crime like rape to something like lying about your job or your social status. Maybe women that use makeup are guilty of rape by means of trickery?
 
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"Sexual coercion is unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way. Coercion can make you think you owe sex to someone. It might be from someone who has power over you, like a teacher, landlord, or a boss. No person is ever required to have sex with someone else.
"Honey, let's make love? - Not tonight, darling, I have a headache. - And if I will take you on cruise? - Oh, suddenly I feel a lot better! Come here, stud!"

Soooo is it okay to sue for rape if there was no cruise afterwards? No matter the circumstances?
 
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Coercion and blackmail to
"Honey, let's make love? - Not tonight, darling, I have a headache. - And if I will take you on cruise? - Oh, suddenly I feel a lot better! Come here, stud!"

Soooo is it okay to sue for rape if there was no cruise afterwards? No matter the circumstances?
:rolleyes: ... Well, To begin with: she said no! Therefore, no need to insist! No is no! Don't try to make her/him change her/his mind for your own little pleasure... :cautious: You have a right hand if the urge is unbearable... If you need to argue to make love... I don't call it "making love"... It's just "wanting sex"... (and seriously, if it's to have sex with a fishwoman who is not in the mood... better pleasure yourself with a porn...)
And from my point of view, if I was a lawyer, I would condemned the husband/wife to pay the cruise he/she promised... That will teach him/her a lesson... (don't make promise you can't keep or, worst case, promise you don't intend to keep...)

But... you take an example that is not "life threatening" ... If she/he refuses, she/he doesn't lose anything in your example... It's just that she/he doesn't gain anything either ... In the blackmail / coercion .. generally, the one coerced/blackmailed have something to lose if she/he refuses...
It is the very principle of blackmail ... losing her/his job for example ... Since the person has no other choice than to say yes , it's rape.

She can say no, that's right ... But she/he loses something if she/he does ... so she/he has not really the choice ... So it's technically a rape...
 
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I can quote insane and stupid legal codes right back at you. It doesn't make the laws correct, moral or even logically sound, only carrying the force of violence in their application.

Coercion is not rape.

Not to be a dick by I get more than irritable when people try and dilute a crime like rape to something like lying about your job or your social status. Maybe women that use makeup are guilty of rape by means of trickery?
Okay I see you don't want to have a mature discussion and just want to throw around bullshit and cry fake news when someone throws facts at you. That is fine you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. let me know how your view goes for you in the real world.
 
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