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Has there really never been walkthroughs made for this game ? Because it's kinda pissing me off that there are many choices and I have absolutely no idea if I'm setting any variables or not, and I can't just test like en Ren'Py games because it's soooo slow to switch between panels, let alone between asset downloads, let alone between episodes.

Now I kinda remember why I had stopped playing this years ago when it was on episode 11 or 12, don't remember now.
 
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Has there really never been walkthroughs made for this game ? Because it's kinda pissing me off that there are many choices and I have absolutely no idea if I'm setting any variables or not, and I can't just test like en Ren'Py games because it's soooo slow to switch between panels, let alone between asset downloads, let alone between episodes.

Now I kinda remember why I had stopped playing this years ago when it was on episode 11 or 12, don't remember now.
if there is then not available for free, choices are quite obvious and just being nice to girls unlocks most content and opens sexpaths with them, on my play i missed just some like sex with ex-gf and they getting caught.
 

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Has there really never been walkthroughs made for this game ? Because it's kinda pissing me off that there are many choices and I have absolutely no idea if I'm setting any variables or not, and I can't just test like en Ren'Py games because it's soooo slow to switch between panels, let alone between asset downloads, let alone between episodes.

Now I kinda remember why I had stopped playing this years ago when it was on episode 11 or 12, don't remember now.
I did not have any problem choosing the answer for each one.
You take care of your sisters and that's it.

You can also go after some of the other girls if you want to but the main story is about MC and his sisters.
 

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if there is then not available for free, choices are quite obvious and just being nice to girls unlocks most content and opens sexpaths with them, on my play i missed just some like sex with ex-gf and they getting caught.
Aren't I locking myself of other paths if I agree to Lauren's question of "Are we dating or not" ? If you say yes you have sex and if you say no it's over. Like I don't know the repercussions of questions like that in relation to all the other side girls and you sisters. I also don't know how my answers to bitch-face Dennis affect the story. Is there really a big change if you agree to Dennis' proposal then spill the beans to Ms. Welsh, don't say anything to Ms. Welsh and continue your 'relationship' with the fucker, or just straight up refuse anything to do with him at the start. You'd think all of these are important choices ?

Don't get my wrong I actually genuinely enjoy the story and I read all the text, but the fact that the game's performance is so slow is really infuriating. It's like I'm back to early 2000's flash games' websites. And the fact that you need to go all the way to earlier episodes and use a manual back up save to change subsequent episodes, just guarantees that I'll probably only do one walkthrough and stick with my choices without ever knowing if I could have made better ones or if maybe there was another path I'd have enjoyed more.
 

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Aren't I locking myself of other paths if I agree to Lauren's question of "Are we dating or not" ?
mc can fuck freely all girls and their teacher as you'd know if you had played dfd.

in the end he needs to choose with whom he spends rest of his life. there is no canonical ending so whatever is your choice is as much canon as any other choice.
 

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Alright, I finished the game, and even dabbled with the editor to make a few different choices for the last few episodes, and I have to say that the last 5 of them were quite disappointing. Also this game perfectly encapsulates the illusion of choice.

DrMosley was one of the worst written character I've ever encountered in the probably hundred or so game I've played on this website over the years. Dennis was unironically one of the best. But it's still incredibly annoying how you are presented choices regarding these two characters, and it literally does not matter at all, or matters very little. So many times you'd think you'd be offered a choice, but no, you don't even get a prompt to choose because it was already decided how the scene was going to play out.

The game is like 80 to 90% kinetic novel, the little choice you have, is just to decide if you want to have sex with someone or not.
 

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The game is like 80 to 90% kinetic novel, the little choice you have, is just to decide if you want to have sex with someone or not.
You're surprised that a game on a porn site has choices to wanting to have sex with a character or not? I do agree with you about some of what you said. But, come on man! This is a porn game. What did you expect? Someone to save Dennis' Life? Not going to happen. Granted, I thought there could be a Dennis' Revenge game, before he died.
 

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You're surprised that a game on a porn site has choices to wanting to have sex with a character or not? I do agree with you about some of what you said. But, come on man! This is a porn game. What did you expect? Someone to save Dennis' Life? Not going to happen. Granted, I thought there could be a Dennis' Revenge game, before he died.
I'm not sure you understood my point correctly. There are plenty of games where your choices matter, which is clearly not the case in this game, hence why I said the "illusion of choice". Choosing whether to have sex with someone or not is not a choice. Having to choose between 2 characters knowing full well that you'll never see the other is somewhat of a choice. Deciding wether you want to let one group of 5 characters die or another group of 5 chartacters die is a real, hard choice with real consequences.

Obviously I'm throwing random examples out there, but surely you must get my point. The story must change according to your decisions, that's what real choices are, and it's not the case at all in this game. whatever you do, whatever choices you click on, you still end up going to school, you still end up on the yatch, you still end up on the mountain, you still end up taking the olympics tryouts. All that changes is whose render is next to yours and a few texts.

I would give ample example of games where your choices really matter, harem or non-harem, but I believe the rule of not naming other people's games in a game's thread is still valid on the forums.
 

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I'm not sure you understood my point correctly. There are plenty of games where your choices matter, which is clearly not the case in this game, hence why I said the "illusion of choice". Choosing whether to have sex with someone or not is not a choice. Having to choose between 2 characters knowing full well that you'll never see the other is somewhat of a choice. Deciding wether you want to let one group of 5 characters die or another group of 5 chartacters die is a real, hard choice with real consequences.

Obviously I'm throwing random examples out there, but surely you must get my point. The story must change according to your decisions, that's what real choices are, and it's not the case at all in this game. whatever you do, whatever choices you click on, you still end up going to school, you still end up on the yatch, you still end up on the mountain, you still end up taking the olympics tryouts. All that changes is whose render is next to yours and a few texts.

I would give ample example of games where your choices really matter, harem or non-harem, but I believe the rule of not naming other people's games in a game's thread is still valid on the forums.
Oh no. I get exactly what your saying. And your choices in this game really only counts towards who joins you in the end. I ended up with the sisters, and the ex-girlfriend in my play-through. It is, as you said, more of a kenetic novel than most games I've played. I'm just pointing out that you seem to complain about the choices to have sex or not in a porn game, on a porn game site, is kind of funny.
I, too, like games where the choices matter a lot more than games like this. But that doesn't mean that these types of games are inherently bad to play. I see it as the Dev wants to have a set plot, set direction for that plot, and a set narrative that he/she/they want to convey. Much like their new game, it seems to be along the same guidelines as this one. Not as fun as some others I could also name. But fun in its own right.
 
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well lj games are quite kinetic (have been since dfd).
 
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Last time I finished my adventure with Double Homework on ep 11, more than 2,5 years ago. Came back to it recently and it was worth it.
The engine itself is kinda annoying to use (or maybe I'm just spoiled by renpy). Unskippable fade ins/outs are irritating. Skipping is also very crude.
Plot is good, can keep you interested and leave wanting for more. Graphics are great, even compared to today's releases.
There are some flaws for sure, but I don't think they're worth discussing over, considering Palmer's death. Generally I'm just sad that he won't grace us with his next projects, since with tech and quaility in the business going up, I'm sure it would be great.

Epilogues on the other hand (as far as I know produced already after Palmer's death?) are... well, disappointment. Actually, I think I would rather not play epilogue 1 at all and just leave the ending to my imagination.
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TL;DR If you're wondering if this game is worth playing, the answer is yes.
 
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The story went downhill after Palmer's death, I stopped at 18 and did not feel like finishing it.
 

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I'm not sure you understood my point correctly. There are plenty of games where your choices matter, which is clearly not the case in this game, hence why I said the "illusion of choice". Choosing whether to have sex with someone or not is not a choice. Having to choose between 2 characters knowing full well that you'll never see the other is somewhat of a choice. Deciding wether you want to let one group of 5 characters die or another group of 5 chartacters die is a real, hard choice with real consequences.
Don't want to get too deep into this just wanted to throw in a thought for inspiration.
I'd argue, if all a choice achieves, is to make you think about how you want your character to react in a scene, then that's already more engaging than not having a choice at all. That's already a consequence of having a choice, even if all the choices eventually lead to the same outcome.
On top of that often the dialogue also changes, and that alone can make the characters and their relationships feel different.

Many many stories are much more about how things are going to happen, instead of what's going to happen. In a basic story you know the hero is going to overcome the antagonist, you want to see how it's done.

Anyways don't want to ramble on for too long, I just find it easier to enjoy these kinds of games if you care less about consequences and end result and more about shaping the characters and their relationships.
 
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