RPGM Completed Black Souls II [v1.13 Official translation] [Eeny, meeny, miny, moe?]

[TheNPC]

Well, after many grinding and multiple tries, I finally beat the "final boss" and got Alice ending instead of ending c.
Enough for today, here is hoping I'll meet every characters in the second playthrough without relying on the walkthrough.

 

[Omnom88]

So any spoiler free or at least mostly spoiler free you guys can give me before I go for a second round?
Since I'm still missing many npc I'd like to try another "nearly" blindthough again before going for a detailed walkthorugh

Keep track of the white flames in the library. When it hits 10 things happen & thats most likely why you missed a ton of NPCs. Then again there are also those who have specific conditions or a wrong answer can lead to hostility. Like NPC XYZ if you dont have item ZYX ready.

Take out JubJub asap aka as Phenir said clocktowers boss. Her boss item Gear of Madness should also allow you to experiment with SEN states and how it affects the world.
Might be a hassle but revisiting area`s after clearing bosses or progressing in general does the trick for keeping track of NPC movements. Like Vernai or Pumpkin Knight.

 

[Phenir]

Eh, too late for this playthrough, this was one of the last area that I visited

That was advice for your next playthrough

 

[Mr. Cofman]

is there an uncen mod

Of course!~

*BONK*

Now you can see all the stars of the world in their primordial beauty!~

 

[Mr. Cofman]

Let me show you my real cooking skills~
Ehem! Listen carefully!


In Japanese, it is not uncommon to mix "r" with "l", isn't it?

Now, what will we get if we type Mary Sue? Maly Sue, right?

Now, read slowly and together...

MalySue.

MalyS... alys... ALICE! There is no mistake!!!

 

[Zartero]

Can someone post the file of the Victoria movie in the Lovecraft cinema for me pls. It seems like I deleted it somehow T_T

 

[Mr. Cofman]

Can someone post the file of the Victoria movie in the Lovecraft cinema for me pls. It seems like I deleted it somehow T_T

What is the problem? The game freezes or crashes with a certain error?
I'd give you a file, even the whole folder if I knew what exactly did you delete, lol.

Edit: What about this:

You must be registered to see the links

You need the whole folder in your BS2 directory

 

[HeckBum69]

Couldn't you just redownload the game and put your savefiles there?

 

[Omnom88]

Couldn't you just redownload the game and put your savefiles there?

This

Can someone post the file of the Victoria movie in the Lovecraft cinema for me pls. It seems like I deleted it somehow T_T

Rather than downloading a single file from someone else. Why not put your savefile somewhere safe and redownload from OP post?

 

[Mr. Cofman]

Wow, is this... A CONSPIRACY?!

*GASP!*

What a reference!~

*clap clap clap*

 

[Junimo#97]

Hi guys, I'm in trouble with Dr. Jekyll, can you tell me a way to defeat him? Even the requiem doesn't save me from his attack


Edit: I defeated Dr. Jekyll, lol I don't know what happened from one second to the next he stopped attacking, but now I'm stuck with the boss nurse call

 

[Omnom88]

Hi guys, I'm in trouble with Dr. Jekyll, can you tell me a way to defeat him? Even the requiem doesn't save me from his attack


Edit: I defeated Dr. Jekyll, lol I don't know what happened from one second to the next he stopped attacking, but now I'm stuck with the boss nurse call

Personally i forgot Jekyll. No idear if i caveman style slapped him with my iron slab or did something else.

For NC.
Unless for some reason you dont dodge, dont use dispel or your weapon switch game is zero she shoulnt be a issue. Kill it until it stays dead.
For the healing trick there are items that negate it thus she cant heal you. (This could be me mixing up 2 different bosses as in Nightingale)

 

[Phenir]

Yeah phase 2 florence is the one that heals you to death

 

[violegraces]

It's the same enemy, she just comes back to life. I think she only has like 10% of her hp or something though so it's not hard to keep killing her. Speaking of difficulty, go check your difficulty at the statue in the library, you probably ran into the event that set it to 9.

THIS PIECE OF SHIT ANGEL LMAOOO

 

[ametoq]

I have question who is stronger lore wise Grand Guignol or other great old ones like crawling one

 

[Noah Neim]

I have question who is stronger lore wise Grand Guignol or other great old ones like crawling one

It requires plenty of speculation but given that Mary's abilities tend to be quite hyped by the game, some can even assume that she's one of the few who can do what she does, by that i mean time rewinds in her own garden.

The ability really isnt being given its credit but if Mary REALLY wanted grimm to never escape she definitely could've, he would've been stuck in an eternal loop no matter how much power he gained and only really escaped because of an accident that couldnt be predicted

If you want to speculate even more Grimm who possibly didnt lose his power after the g ending still might have struggled against GG, it's unlikely he simply won on the first try.


Obviously though, the arguments for this are weak, TCO is still a literal ancient old one and though not particularly mentioned by mabel as the strongest (those are the elemental ones, excluding her of course), would still be a top tier, given that she keeps everyone in check and how deeply abnormal it is compared to the rest

 

[HeckBum69]

It requires plenty of speculation but given that Mary's abilities tend to be quite hyped by the game, some can even assume that she's one of the few who can do what she does, by that i mean time rewinds in her own garden.

The ability really isnt being given its credit but if Mary REALLY wanted grimm to never escape she definitely could've, he would've been stuck in an eternal loop no matter how much power he gained and only really escaped because of an accident that couldnt be predicted

If you want to speculate even more Grimm who possibly didnt lose his power after the g ending still might have struggled against GG, it's unlikely he simply won on the first try.


Obviously though, the arguments for this are weak, TCO is still a literal ancient old one and though not particularly mentioned by mabel as the strongest (those are the elemental ones, excluding her of course), would still be a top tier, given that she keeps everyone in check and how deeply abnormal it is compared to the rest

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But either way, to answer the question

I have question who is stronger lore wise Grand Guignol or other great old ones like crawling one

It's the Great Old Ones, there's nothing to speculate, GG was made to be used by them as a mechanical god.
If GG could stand a chance against them Leaf wouldn've have been stripped of divinity nor have Grimm stolen by TCO.

 

[Omnom88]

I have question who is stronger lore wise Grand Guignol or other great old ones like crawling one

Thats like asking if a square or triangle is stronger.
Or the immovable object vs the unbreakable force.
The concept of death doesnt even apply to cosmic horror gods in the first place. At best its like a cooldown until they respawn or what you actually defeat is just a chunk of flesh that acted as a avatar/extension of the main body.

Its less how strong is one compared to the other and more. How long does it take for one of them to give up because the other side annoyed them long enough to move on.

From my own POV. I wouldnt even classify GG to Old Ones level. Because in the first place its power given form & turned into a construct to wield and use.
Maybe it would have evolved to something on that level if it managed to consume Grimm.

 

[HeckBum69]

Thats like asking if a square or triangle is stronger.
Or the immovable object vs the unbreakable force.
The concept of death doesnt even apply to cosmic horror gods in the first place. At best its like a cooldown until they respawn or what you actually defeat is just a chunk of flesh that acted as a avatar/extension of the main body.

Its less how strong is one compared to the other and more. How long does it take for one of them to give up because the other side annoyed them long enough to move on.

While BS takes heavy inspiration from Lovecraft, there's nothing implying the Old Gods can't be killed, especially because Mabel says we got rid of Baphomet

Also GG is a mechanical god made from an ability so it's not like it's an actual Old God

 

[Noah Neim]

Her power isn't rewinding the garden, TCO also does it, her power is Change.

Wasnt the entire point of GG to be the actual key behind rewinds? Cause obviously even with the TCO 'defeated' time still rewound, i find it odd that GG being given this specific function for no reason when TCO can also do it

Idk what the point of mentioning this is but for clarification, she didn't intend for him to escape, TCO is just stronger than Leaf.

In the Chaos Dungeon we learn that her ability is indeed unique to her

To clarify the difference between proactive and reactive rewinds, maybe i should've gone into more detaill, but i tend to yap alot so i try to limit myself.
There's no reason to believe Grimm even has a resistance to time related abilities, Mary and by extension GG, would have to fight someone in the slightest, unless you have a specific counter to time, you'lljust be eternally stalemates

GG was made to be used by them as a mechanical god

I- that's still a god? Are you forgetting that Grimm fusing with GG makes him a bonafide old ones in the ending?

Also GG is a mechanical god made from an ability so it's not like it's an actual Old God

It's not made just from a specific ability, but from Mary's entire power, and given that her abilities are anomalous that she isnt the weakest, and if that isnt the case it doesnt make sensse that Grimm only becomes an old one when he fuses with GG, sure, you can argue he's somewhat on their level of power, but if 'time' manipulation is the only thing that turns him from a skeleton to that weird tentacle thing than i'd be even more confused



I'd still give it to TCO since Mary was somewhat afraid of TCO, this can just be seen as a trauma thing, technically abusers dont even have to be stronger than you, just implant fear into you, but ill just go with the notion that Mary is afraid because she cant do anything because she's weaker, and GG being made from her wouldnt change a difference

There's also how in ending F both of them