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fried

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He already made a post and a poll, why change the percentage when there's actually no progress? Just to shut people up?
He should really scrap that whole % thing, it would just give him and everyone else a headache.

Like I said, I hope he ignores all the backlash and just shuts people up with updates.
Why do you seem to be assuming there has been no progress? Your post seems to come from the perspective that ICSTOR is hiding his true status and needs to come clean in some manner.

Sure, he listens, polls, etc. and tries to respond to related feedback in ways that makes some fans/supporters scratch their heads when it comes to the game content+direction, but that doesn't mean this game is running off the rails or that he needs to suddenly change his processes if he's still comfortable with the situation.

Once again, he offered August and if he's satisfied with offering his typical style of poll and spread-out posts, so long as he's getting the kind of feedback he needs to continue his work (e.g., poll results) and enough subscribers, I would tend to doubt he'll see a compelling reason for changing his communications style (which is not a minor change, his personality seems bound to that aspect of his professional work).

If he does decide to break from his typical pattern of communications, I'd wager it would be because something disastrous happened and he needs to explain its impact.
 
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Why do you seem to be assuming there has been no progress? Your post seems to come from the perspective that ICSTOR is hiding his true status and needs to come clean in some manner.
You're making assumptions about what I meant.

This % thing is causing him issues and I think he should consider scraping it. That's what I was saying.
Yes he gave an ETA already, great let's just wait for it. No need for %.

Who said anything about his game going off the rails? Him hiding and coming clean and that?
You're being defensive of him when nobody is attacking him. We're all his fans here.
 
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You're making assumptions about what I meant.

This % thing is causing him issues and I think he should consider scraping it. That's what I was saying.
Yes he gave an ETA already, great let's just wait for it. No need for %.

Who said anything about his game going off the rails? Him hiding and coming clean and that?
You're being defensive of him when nobody is attacking him. We're all his fans here.
I have no skin in this game at all, am simply reflecting your points and "suggestions:"
  • ICSTOR has created "issues" by sharing the % number: I am only seeing a minority of people here with such an issue, mostly his detractors
  • ICSTOR needs to change how he communicates his status and/or intentions: What he's doing is consistent with his style and still retains subscribers, somehow: he doesn't *need* to suddenly adopt a new style of communicating if he's concentrating on other things.
  • ICSTOR is too easily swayed by negative voices and is thin-skinned: he just came out of a highly personal slowdown and medical leave, during which increasingly negative voices accused him of everything from being fully burned out on the game to intentionally cheating all his subscribers. Yet, he's still back to pick up the work per announced plan, has started communicating again (in his style, for better or worse), has offered a poll which many people find somewhat distracting (as usual) and upped the % to exemplify that he's moving ahead on the game
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Maybe you can see how that easily reads as: glass=more than half empty on his intentions, capabilities and/or deliverables. And, seems unrealistic, given how he's operated before.
 

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It's been so long since the last update that I've forgotten most of the story. I will have to replay it from scratch when the update drops, not a big deal.
I do remember though that Caroline is the best character by far and probably the best big sister in any game on this site. Oh, I also remember I hate mom; that's why I like to give her some good hateful dick.

in game pic, or fan art?
This message is a huge compliment for the artist. That render is insanely good!
 
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I have no skin in this game at all, am simply reflecting your points and "suggestions:"
  • ICSTOR has created "issues" by sharing the % number: I am only seeing a minority of people here with such an issue, mostly his detractors
  • ICSTOR needs to change how he communicates his status and/or intentions: What he's doing is consistent with his style and still retains subscribers, somehow: he doesn't *need* to suddenly adopt a new style of communicating if he's concentrating on other things.
  • ICSTOR is too easily swayed by negative voices and is thin-skinned: he just came out of a highly personal slowdown and medical leave, during which increasingly negative voices accused him of everything from being fully burned out on the game to intentionally cheating all his subscribers. Yet, he's still back to pick up the work per announced plan, has started communicating again (in his style, for better or worse), has offered a poll which many people find somewhat distracting (as usual) and upped the % to exemplify that he's moving ahead on the game
  • ...
Maybe you can see how that easily reads as: glass=more than half empty on his intentions, capabilities and/or deliverables. And, seems unrealistic, given how he's operated before.
Well said, but...

he messed up with his earlier polls, letting his patrons decide what characters he'd work on. It sounds good in theory, but in practice it devolved to Linda/Carolline, with the occasional Sara update. I think dropping that, and going with other types of questions in polls is a good thing. A schedule of girls he wants to work on is the best way for him to stay engaged, and to make sure all girls get some love.

That said, some of his poll questions left me scratching my head. Harem ending? duh. Pregnancy? He likes it, so duh. Redesign Macy? WTF?
 

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I do remember though that Caroline is the best character by far
This I disagree with. She's the most grotesquely overdeveloped character because of the polls. Literally EVERYBODY else has only been getting a smattering of content here and there. I'm not saying he should stop writing for Caroline but it's time he give the girl a break and make something of his WIPs. I think there's still three or four that have virtually nothing to nothing at all done with them. And then there's the existing stories that need to be expanded upon.
Aristos said:
and probably the best big sister in any game on this site.
But this I do not. Well said.
Redesign Macy? WTF?
My thoughts precisely. She's fine the way she is. Instead of spending time doing that, I feel that it'd be time better spent creating content for her.
 
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Best Milfy City girls, Viressa edition:

1. Celia
2. Linda/Mom
3. Aunt/Yazmin
4. Viola
5. Caroline
6. Sara
7. All the others are in 7 because I don't care about them except as possible 3P/FF routes with the above 6 girls.

Note this ranking takes into account both their attractiveness on a physical level as well as how much I enjoy what we've seen of their stories so far, so this ranking is subject to change as more stories come out. And despite this ranking I'm not a Sara hater, I actually think she's quite cute and I think her story is very sweet. But big titty MILFs you can smack around will always win over adorable imouto with a crush on you, sorry.
 
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I have no skin in this game at all, am simply reflecting your points and "suggestions:"
  • ICSTOR has created "issues" by sharing the % number: I am only seeing a minority of people here with such an issue, mostly his detractors
  • ICSTOR needs to change how he communicates his status and/or intentions: What he's doing is consistent with his style and still retains subscribers, somehow: he doesn't *need* to suddenly adopt a new style of communicating if he's concentrating on other things.
  • ICSTOR is too easily swayed by negative voices and is thin-skinned: he just came out of a highly personal slowdown and medical leave, during which increasingly negative voices accused him of everything from being fully burned out on the game to intentionally cheating all his subscribers. Yet, he's still back to pick up the work per announced plan, has started communicating again (in his style, for better or worse), has offered a poll which many people find somewhat distracting (as usual) and upped the % to exemplify that he's moving ahead on the game
  • ...
Maybe you can see how that easily reads as: glass=more than half empty on his intentions, capabilities and/or deliverables. And, seems unrealistic, given how he's operated before.
Man we keep going in circles, you keep repeating yourself and I keep repeating myself. I don't even see the point of this discussion anymore.

Yes the % is a headache. I'm not only talking about this game. It has always been pointless. That's what I think.

Yes I still think he needs to communicate better, specially during the past 6 months. Making a brief statement every couple of weeks is not gonna affect his "concentrating on other things". You're making him sound like he's a brain surgeon that can't have 5 minutes every 2 weeks to make a brief post about progress.
You think he's communicating just fine? Good. I don't. End of story.

Yes I think he is easily swayed by other opinions that ultimately change the original vision of his game. And I already gave you an example long before this game even existed. So his recent burnout or 'personal slowdown' is irrelevant.

Yeah these are my suggestions or my opinions. If he's even reading this thread he can take them or leave them. Big deal.

You're giving this whole thing more attention than it really needs.
 
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Just think of that totally annoying GrubHub commercial on TV: "I want it all, I want it now."

My response is simple. "Fuck you. You can't have it all, and you'll get it when you get it."
Too many people today have had everything handed to them on a silver platter and feel entitled. I spent about 14 years in an environment (the Army) where things were more "Hurry up and wait." Being a RetMSgt, I imagine you knew the feeling. Be nice if these kids were put into some mind numbing, repetitive, time consuming shit for a couple months and then they'd have something really to bitch about.
 
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I do think it's a fair criticism of Icstor to say his story-development needs work. The polls have such a stunting effect on the growth of the game and his own mental health because they take place of a real plan. He should take a look at some other well-known games that storyboard more effectively and incorporate the various romantic interests in a more evenly distributed and natural way. Look at a game like Where the Heart Is that has a few main squeezes and then a bunch of supporting side chicks that weave their way into the story more organically.

A good format is something like using a plot that develops a main character to incorporate a sexual encounter with a side character. Ex. Sarah is doing poorly in school, so MC has to convince Macy to tutor her, and Macy isn't gonna do it for free, she wants some dick in payment. MC gives her what she wants and Sarah's story develops. I call it the "Wannabe Method"(if you want to be her lover, you gotta get with her friends).
 

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Best Milfy City girls, Viressa edition:

1. Celia
2. Linda/Mom
3. Aunt/Yazmin
4. Viola
5. Caroline
6. Sara
7. All the others are in 7 because I don't care about them except as possible 3P/FF routes with the above 6 girls.

Note this ranking takes into account both their attractiveness on a physical level as well as how much I enjoy what we've seen of their stories so far, so this ranking is subject to change as more stories come out. And despite this ranking I'm not a Sara hater, I actually think she's quite cute and I think her story is very sweet. But big titty MILFs you can smack around will always win over adorable imouto with a crush on you, sorry.
Caroline number 5?, Sara number 6?
Oh man! We have quite different tastes on woman.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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Best Milfy City girls, Viressa edition:

1. Celia
2. Linda/Mom
3. Aunt/Yazmin
4. Viola
5. Caroline
6. Sara
7. All the others are in 7 because I don't care about them except as possible 3P/FF routes with the above 6 girls.

Note this ranking takes into account both their attractiveness on a physical level as well as how much I enjoy what we've seen of their stories so far, so this ranking is subject to change as more stories come out. And despite this ranking I'm not a Sara hater, I actually think she's quite cute and I think her story is very sweet. But big titty MILFs you can smack around will always win over adorable imouto with a crush on you, sorry.
To be fair, apart from the first three positions the other can't even be counted as milf (despite the game being named Milfy City).

ps: Celia will always have a special place in my heart because she does anal. :love: :p
 
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