Dasati

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I honestly do not understand your comment, either you are saying that the developer is lying or that you do not understand what a progress bar means. If the developer is actually working on the game he should be able to indentify approximately how much work is left and then as additional work is completed the bar should be updated. It really is that simple. Now if the developer is full of shit and just making it up then yes it is meaningless but that is not the fault of the update bar but the developer so please explain what you meant as it currently makes no sense to me?.
Icstor stated in a patreon post that, due to the update increasing in size (he's added the neighbours which wasn't originally planned). The progress bar would remain at 65% for awhile, in order to properly reflect real world progress. However many people had been absolutely obsessing over the 65%. Using it to claim the game was abandoned, or claiming the update wouldn't be until like December (despite Icstor saying August). Therefore Icstor increased it to 70% just to get those people off his back. For speculators and self declared experts its meaningless, as the 5% increase does not reflect real world progress. The update will be out in August.
 
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This is not related as much to the game but I'd like to understand why pregnancy is a big turn on for people, I for one see it a bit a disturbing and want to get some opinions on this, since it is also coming to MilfyCity too as I hear.
 

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As if it's so obvious, over 7months since last update
Sigh...

Re-read both messages; my comment is not related to the whether or not it's abandoned but rather the fact that he (she?) asked this question in the middle of a raging debate on that very topic.
 

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Using it to claim the game was abandoned
Total strawman. This is my proof
Updated: 2018-11-20
Today
Friday, June 28, 2019

And the Lord said..."Icstor stated in a patreon post that "
And the Lord said...."I'm back" before vanishing again.
And the Lord said..... August 6th ... Can I interest you in this bridge?

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I never said forever myself. It helps if you use the agreed definition
abandoned

aban·doned | \ ə-ˈban-dənd Definition of abandoned


1a : left without needed protection, care, or support an abandoned baby … she … began to live in what she referred to as the straitened circumstances of an abandoned woman.— Richard Russo
b : left by the owner an abandoned car
: left to fall into a state of disuse an abandoned field abandoned property an abandoned factory

c : no longer held or thought of : given up abandoned hopes/dreams
 
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This is not related as much to the game but I'd like to understand why pregnancy is a big turn on for people, I for one see it a bit a disturbing and want to get some opinions on this, since it is also coming to MilfyCity too as I hear.
I feel the same way about incest and Futa as well.
 

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You are all sick and insane. I despise each and every one of you. Fuck you! Fuck you for ruining this game!

Certainly not a sick fuck like you.
WHich of the poll results are you unhappy with? The biggest dissapointment is the harem without Sara 12.8%.. Should be 0% :p And Macy has way to big tits (like most other characters), other than that it's fine.
 
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WHich of the poll results are you unhappy with? The biggest dissapointment is the harem without Sara 12.8%.. Should be 0% :p And Macy has way to big tits (like most other characters), other than that it's fine.
The poll itself is A BIG MISTAKE.

There are so many characters with no / almost any content. What's the point in these promises-that-will-never-be-fulfilled?

Is he going to add pregnancies/bdsm content at the expenses of side routes? Is he going to complete this game in 2030?
 

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Just to cut down on some scratchy noise, let's recall the latest guidance for releases advertised at this site:

https://f95zone.to/threads/game-uploading-rules-2019-06-25.524/

Prefix Definitions:
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Completed: The game has been confirmed by the developer to be completed, and no further updates are expected.
Onhold: The game has been confirmed to be on hold by the developer.
Abandoned: The game has been abandoned (confirmed by the dev) or the developer hasn't posted anything related to the game for at least 3 months.
That said, I look forward to August and any previews until then.
 
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The poll itself is A BIG MISTAKE.

There are so many characters with no / almost any content. What's the point in these promises-that-will-never-be-fulfilled?

Is he going to add pregnancies/bdsm content at the expenses of side routes? Is he going to complete this game in 2030?
Hei bro, I think you are right, about the side routes, they Will be marginal imo, as they were in IC2.

Actually i am very Happy about that, because i am here Just for the incest and thus for the main characters. But i feel Sorry nontheless for people wanting more variety.
 
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Icstor increased it to 70% just to get those people off his back.
Well maybe he needs to stay off the forums then and not let anything that people say get to him.

Many people were alluding to the notion that he took some time off because people were critiquing his game.
Well, he kept getting bigger and bigger, so criticism and attention are side effects. Silly criticims should just be ignored and constructive criticism is great for him.

His Patreon numbers should be enough encouragement for him.

My opinion is that he needs to
- Have thicker skin.
- Forget about stupid polls and what people might think.
- Give a brief update every 2 weeks about your progress.
- Keep your head down, and keep pumping updates and finish the game properly.

His fan base will grow and all the previous shit will be forgotten.
 

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Well maybe he needs to stay off the forums then and not let anything that people say get to him.

Many people were alluding to the notion that he took some time off because people were critiquing his game.
Well, he kept getting bigger and bigger, so criticism and attention are side effects. Silly criticims should just be ignored and constructive criticism is great for him.

His Patreon numbers should be enough encouragement for him.

My opinion is that he needs to
- Have thicker skin.
- Forget about stupid polls and what people might think.
- Give a brief update every 2 weeks about your progress.
- Keep your head down, and keep pumping updates and finish the game properly.

His fan base will grow and all the previous shit will be forgotten.
I'm not aware of evidence that ICSTOR has thin skin: he stated his reason for falling behind and taking a break, now that period is over and he's back to work.

His moving the percentage up helps to add more indication of his activity, but his dev style has long seemed, "when it's ready" so it's anyone's guess how accurate it is down to the decimal point. Since he's offered an August timeframe, I also don't see why he needs to change his interaction style this far down the road - maybe if he starts to lose significant numbers of supporters and decides to try more outreach, that would make sense.

Sure, we can ask for more ideal communications, but that doesn't seem to be his current issue with fans - more his detractors. If I were him, I wouldn't give those voices much attention if they were way off, anyway.
 
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If you've been a long time fan of ICSTOR like me, then you'd realize that he is easily affected by what people say in terms of his vision for his games. If you played the early versions of IC2, then the later versions.. you'll know what I mean. The game was drastically changed because a few people complained.

It's good that he listens, but sometimes it seems that he cares about what people say too much.

I also don't see why he needs to change his interaction style this far down the road
Since when there's a deadline for improvements?

If you ask anyone here what is ICSTOR biggest issue, most will say communication.


His moving the percentage up helps to add more indication of his activity
He already made a post and a poll, why change the percentage when there's actually no progress? Just to shut people up?
He should really scrap that whole % thing, it would just give him and everyone else a headache.

Like I said, I hope he ignores all the backlash and just shuts people up with updates.
 
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He already made a post and a poll, why change the percentage when there's actually no progress? Just to shut people up?
He should really scrap that whole % thing, it would just give him and everyone else a headache.

Like I said, I hope he ignores all the backlash and just shuts people up with updates.
Why do you seem to be assuming there has been no progress? Your post seems to come from the perspective that ICSTOR is hiding his true status and needs to come clean in some manner.

Sure, he listens, polls, etc. and tries to respond to related feedback in ways that makes some fans/supporters scratch their heads when it comes to the game content+direction, but that doesn't mean this game is running off the rails or that he needs to suddenly change his processes if he's still comfortable with the situation.

Once again, he offered August and if he's satisfied with offering his typical style of poll and spread-out posts, so long as he's getting the kind of feedback he needs to continue his work (e.g., poll results) and enough subscribers, I would tend to doubt he'll see a compelling reason for changing his communications style (which is not a minor change, his personality seems bound to that aspect of his professional work).

If he does decide to break from his typical pattern of communications, I'd wager it would be because something disastrous happened and he needs to explain its impact.
 
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Why do you seem to be assuming there has been no progress? Your post seems to come from the perspective that ICSTOR is hiding his true status and needs to come clean in some manner.
You're making assumptions about what I meant.

This % thing is causing him issues and I think he should consider scraping it. That's what I was saying.
Yes he gave an ETA already, great let's just wait for it. No need for %.

Who said anything about his game going off the rails? Him hiding and coming clean and that?
You're being defensive of him when nobody is attacking him. We're all his fans here.
 
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