Alfius

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It is my opinion that this game always intended to have Sandra in it as a major participant. It is also my opinion that the developers provided a non-Sandra route only after so many players stated that they disliked her. I can assure you that on the Sandra route, Haley is most certainly NOT out of the picture. Haley is still the center of attention and attraction, regardless of the path you play.

One of the reasons that I base my belief that Sandra was an integral part of the original planning for the game, is the fact that only two characters receive a points count in the scripts - Haley and Sandra. None of the other NPCs have points accumulated for them.
I thiink it's the other way around :p...I feel like I'm one of the few people that actually liked Sandra but still prefer a Haley only route...I don't want to share her. And I also don't want a distraction in our relationship.
 

Alfius

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oh by the way i was wondering if anyone knows .... will there be a time when we get a shot at Lisa ... damn that girl is soooo fine ......... :love:
It looks like the time is the next upgrade!!! but you must be on the Haley only path.
 
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Tserriednich'sNen

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Honestly, I doubt that the dad knows what happened with Haley, not even the "official" version. He seems like the type that would've murdered his ass even because of that. If Haley was afraid of Klaus telling on her father about it, it seems unlikely that the mom would.
Yep it would also explain why Mom treats Haley the way she does but not dad. He definitely seems like the type of dad who would have murdered some scumbag abusing his daughter.
 

ImperialD

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Honestly, I doubt that the dad knows what happened with Haley, not even the "official" version. He seems like the type that would've murdered his ass even because of that. If Haley was afraid of Klaus telling on her father about it, it seems unlikely that the mom would.
yeah you might be right i'm going thru the game now and its just the comments dad makes to you about Haley , it gets me thinking ...
 

automatica

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I discovered this VN by accident, and I'm glad I did.

I'm really enjoying the romance and emotional depth of the story. It's so good that I think it would be a great "mainstream" Netflix series or movie, all that would have to be done is sanitize it by changing MC and Haley's relationship to that of childhood friends. It really is something I'd watch.

Oh yeah, can't f'n stand Sandra. Glad there is the option to end the relationship with her.
 

EZ8lt

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yeah you might be right i'm going thru the game now and its just the comments dad makes to you about Haley , it gets me thinking ...
It seems more like a generic wariness than actual knowledge. I mean, if he'd know, that would break his character big time, and we'd need some seriously smart explanation for that contradiction.
 

yctracon

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I discovered this VN by accident, and I'm glad I did.

I'm really enjoying the romance and emotional depth of the story. It's so good that I think it would be a great "mainstream" Netflix series or movie, all that would have to be done is sanitize it by changing MC and Haley's relationship to that of childhood friends. It really is something I'd watch.

Oh yeah, can't f'n stand Sandra. Glad there is the option to end the relationship with her.
I know this isn't what you meant but I'd love if some serious tv show would use porn-game clichees in the most obvious way :D
 

DA22

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I know this isn't what you meant but I'd love if some serious tv show would use porn-game clichees in the most obvious way :D
Is it not the other way around and porn games loan a lot of cliches from soap series quite often? This game is actually as interesting as it is since does less of that. :p
 
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I also like Sandra..I just like Haley more and I think she needs me (MC) more. I think it's not fair dragging Sandra into this mess. It's why I'm playing a Haley only route. But When the game is done, I'm looking forward to play the Haley Sandra route as well...Same with Adriana. For some or other reason, I want my first playthrough to be Haley alone. Unlike other games, I'm not playing multiple paths...
I get that, but I like poly routes.
In games like these, I'm not crazy about the super-harems, because it's all just sex, without consequence, usually. But I like a game where a poly romance is an option, and it feels like Haley is (or at least, would like to reach the point where she is) as in love with Sandra as the MC is.
That said, I never even went for the other girls. If I'm going to play a game where the intent of the story is romance, I don't need to fuck everything that moves. I am OK, I suppose, with leaving the other girls alone.

Now, if they changed the game, to allow multiple relationship paths, and Sandra was just one choice? I'd be more interested in other play throughs to see how it all worked. But I don't see that happening... and that's probably a good thing, as that many paths (that would, inevitably, involve Haley as well) would either start to feel too much the same, or just not believable.
 

Real Kreten

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I also like Sandra..I just like Haley more and I think she needs me (MC) more. I think it's not fair dragging Sandra into this mess. It's why I'm playing a Haley only route. But When the game is done, I'm looking forward to play the Haley Sandra route as well...Same with Adriana. For some or other reason, I want my first playthrough to be Haley alone. Unlike other games, I'm not playing multiple paths...
I would have liked to go the only-Haley path, but the Muffin was unable to leave Sandra.
 

yctracon

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Is it not the other way around and porn games loan a lot of cliches from soap series quite often? This game is actually as interesting as it is since does less of that. :p
Cant say that I'm an expert on such series or have ever watched one.
But the idea that there is a television show about two childhood friends who for the first time live independantly, move in together and begin a relationship with each other and then slowly we find out those childhood friends grew up in the same house, and were born on the same day and were raised by the same people, but those people are not their parents, those people are their ex-landlord and ex-landlady, and for some reason they think they need to hide their relationship from everybody because nobody would understand, because it is completly unacceptable to start a relationship with your childhood friend.

I think at some point watching that show I'd spill my drink and the thought of that puts a smile on my face
 

shazdeh

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This VN is so refreshing, the devs have an actual story to tell. And I hope they stick the landing too, with the subject matter being sensitive and all.

I hope asking this in this topic against the rules, but what other VNs would you guys recommend to be as similar as this one? And by that I mean, excellent story with sharp dialog. The dialog in most other stuff I've tried is ass, and it's the most important bit (to me).
 
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