Others Kingdom Lost [v0.5.6.22 hotfix] [PsychoSeel]

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Psycho-Dev here's my take on bugs and stuff:

1) The game ran smoothly up until I cleared the goblins for the panel quest, which inevitably leads to a random error happening every now and then. I had to reload a game where I had not completed the quest and got the reward for the game to work again.

2) Controller support is messed up. B button only works in combat, in game brings up menu, very annoying.

3) There is no controller enabled tutorial. I do not know what the buttons do, it's confusing. You have to get to a menu and then hit "spell1" and whatnot to get to the quests list and everything is like this, please just make the Dpad bring up menus, joystick for movement and just use zoom commands to switch between all menus like any other RPG. I will provide a list of commands as I would have them in the end of this comment. (that's how much I like this game and want to see it thrive to full potential)

4) please remember zoom level. If I zoom all the way out to see the whole map, I don't want it to be reset when I switch screens. This is a standard clue that tells me "an even is about to happen, here is a cutscene" Let my zoom level be remembered between screens, and have the zoom level change when a cutscene is started.

5) Dying is game over, why ? Either add scenes so that we can be rewarded with a consolation prize when we die, or else make it so that dying has consequences on the game, not just a boring, black game over screen. Especially when gameplay is this freaking difficult. Also more attacking techniques would be nice. I'll expand on that:

normal attack is weak and doesn't require timing not to miss. Add a special attack which requires timing to hit.

Example:

Select Leana-> select "normal attack"->select enemy-> don't touch the controller => enemy loses 1HP
Select Leana-> select "normal attack"->select enemy-> Hit right button slow => enemy loses 2HP
Select Leana-> select "normal attack"->select enemy-> Hit right button fast => enemy loses 4HP
Select Leana-> select "normal attack"->select enemy-> Hit wrong button => attack misses.

Select Leana-> select "special attack"->select enemy-> don't touch the controller => attack misses
Select Leana-> select "special attack"->select enemy-> Hit right button slow => enemy loses 4HP
Select Leana-> select "special attack"->select enemy-> Hit right button fast => enemy loses 8HP
Select Leana-> select "special attack"->select enemy-> Hit wrong button => attack misses and Leana loses 1 turn of action

Enemy attacks-> Hit right button fast-> Attack is dodged
Enemy attacks-> Do nothing-> Lose 1HP
Enemy attacks-> Hit wrong button-> Lose 2HP

Controller setttings:

start: open menu (defaut invetory)
LB/RB : switch pages of the menu (goes through all menus existing: character screen, settings, quest list, etc)
 
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Psycho-Dev here's my take on bugs and stuff:

1) The game ran smoothly up until I cleared the goblins for the panel quest, which inevitably leads to a random error happening every now and then. I had to reload a game where I had not completed the quest and got the reward for the game to work again.

2) Controller support is messed up. B button only works in combat, in game brings up menu, very annoying.

3) There is no controller enabled tutorial. I do not know what the buttons do, it's confusing. You have to get to a menu and then hit "spell1" and whatnot to get to the quests list and everything is like this, please just make the Dpad bring up menus, joystick for movement and just use zoom commands to switch between all menus like any other RPG. I will provide a list of commands as I would have them in the end of this comment. (that's how much I like this game and want to see it thrive to full potential)

4) please remember zoom level. If I zoom all the way out to see the whole map, I don't want it to be reset when I switch screens. This is a standard clue that tells me "an even is about to happen, here is a cutscene" Let my zoom level be remembered between screens, and have the zoom level change when a cutscene is started.

5) Dying is game over, why ? Either add scenes so that we can be rewarded with a consolation prize when we die, or else make it so that dying has consequences on the game, not just a boring, black game over screen. Especially when gameplay is this freaking difficult. Also more attacking techniques would be nice. I'll expand on that:

normal attack is weak and doesn't require timing not to miss. Add a special attack which requires timing to hit.

Example:

Select Leana-> select "normal attack"->select enemy-> don't touch the controller => enemy loses 1HP
Select Leana-> select "normal attack"->select enemy-> Hit right button slow => enemy loses 2HP
Select Leana-> select "normal attack"->select enemy-> Hit right button fast => enemy loses 4HP
Select Leana-> select "normal attack"->select enemy-> Hit wrong button => attack misses.

Select Leana-> select "special attack"->select enemy-> don't touch the controller => attack misses
Select Leana-> select "special attack"->select enemy-> Hit right button slow => enemy loses 4HP
Select Leana-> select "special attack"->select enemy-> Hit right button fast => enemy loses 8HP
Select Leana-> select "special attack"->select enemy-> Hit wrong button => attack misses and Leana loses 1 turn of action

Enemy attacks-> Hit right button fast-> Attack is dodged
Enemy attacks-> Do nothing-> Lose 1HP
Enemy attacks-> Hit wrong button-> Lose 2HP

Controller setttings:

start: open menu (defaut invetory)
LB/RB : switch pages of the menu (goes through all menus existing: character screen, settings, quest list, etc)
This is a great feedback, thank you very much. I'm aware of the bounty board bug but since it's pretty random, I'm not sure about what's causing it.

About controls, I'm still refining controls and adding new features, and I completely agree about how uncomfortable/confusing gamepad controls are. I'll keep your feedback in mind and improve gamepad controls.

About combat, I like those ideas. We have plans to add lots of features to combat system, classes with unique play styles and 12 skills each. To implement different ideas, we need more variety of items/skills/equipments and companions. I want some classes to completely remove skill check and depend on RNG, while some classes will depend on skill checks with huge risk/rewards factor for example. But for now, I guess I could easily implement your suggestions and I think it'd make combat lot less frustrating for everyone. I see lot's of people complaining about how hard is combat so I should probably do something about that, starting from making easy difficulty lot more easier.

Combat system is pretty rough so I added a new difficulty level for the next patch, which removes all combat encounters and let's player automatically win every cutscene triggered combat.

Dying is not always game over, but yes mostly game over. I'm kind of picky about using same things over and over again but, I guess it's better then not using it at all. I should probably add a rape scene after each death and then let player continue with low health or something, I'll think about this. I was actually waiting for more sex animations, but it might take some time with everything else ShySeel is working on so, yea.
 
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This is a great feedback, thank you very much. I'm aware of the bounty board bug but since it's pretty random, I'm not sure about what's causing it.

About controls, I'm still refining controls and adding new features, and I completely agree about how uncomfortable/confusing gamepad controls are. I'll keep your feedback in mind and improve gamepad controls.

About combat, I like those ideas. We have plans to add lots of features to combat system, classes with unique play styles and 12 skills each. To implement different ideas, we need more variety of items/skills/equipments and companions. I want some classes to completely remove skill check and depend on RNG, while some classes will depend on skill checks with huge risk/rewards factor for example. But for now, I guess I could easily implement your suggestions and I think it'd make combat lot less frustrating for everyone. I see lot's of people complaining about how hard is combat so I should probably do something about that, starting from making easy difficulty lot more easier.

Combat system is pretty rough so I added a new difficulty level for the next patch, which removes all combat encounters and let's player automatically win every cutscene triggered combat.

Dying is not always game over, but yes mostly game over. I'm kind of picky about using same things over and over again but, I guess it's better then not using it at all. I should probably add a rape scene after each death and then let player continue with low health or something, I'll think about this. I was actually waiting for more sex animations, but it might take some time with everything else ShySeel is working on so, yea.
Yes, rape scenes and low health, maybe with some behavior thing, like her clothes are ripped and she is ashamed or something, and has to avoid being seen in this state.

Personnaly I would not be bothered by placeholder graphics until the animations are made, or even just a placeholder text thing, it would be better than nothing and make us players wait for it to arrive.

thank you for rtesponding to my comlment and taking my feedback into consideration, i'll stay tuned in for the next update! When do you think that could arrive?
 
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I'd need some help ! I cannot do anything in the game.

I got out of the tunnel. Then I found Ann and I let her suck for my pass, or I can also do iut myself. Then I cannot find her anywhere for the life of me.

I got to the church. Spoke to the man and got the outfit, and magic spell. Then got inside the town, saw an inn and went inside, got to sleep for 8 hours. man said "we'll speak tomorrow" but when I go back to him, he says the same thing and nothing happens.

I got to Alicia, then died to the bandits, got raped, nothing happens, alicia disappears. If I win, alicia is happy, cannot find her.

Past this point, there is NOTHING to do in the game. Not a single quest. I can go to Lamrock and lit up the place, but nothing happens. I can go south and find a camp,; but there is no one interesting there and nothing to see or do.

What am I missing?
 

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I'd need some help ! I cannot do anything in the game.

I got out of the tunnel. Then I found Ann and I let her suck for my pass, or I can also do iut myself. Then I cannot find her anywhere for the life of me.

I got to the church. Spoke to the man and got the outfit, and magic spell. Then got inside the town, saw an inn and went inside, got to sleep for 8 hours. man said "we'll speak tomorrow" but when I go back to him, he says the same thing and nothing happens.

I got to Alicia, then died to the bandits, got raped, nothing happens, alicia disappears. If I win, alicia is happy, cannot find her.

Past this point, there is NOTHING to do in the game. Not a single quest. I can go to Lamrock and lit up the place, but nothing happens. I can go south and find a camp,; but there is no one interesting there and nothing to see or do.

What am I missing?
You've done most of what's in the game currently. If you lose to the bandits at the end of the tutorial cave there's a scene. You can find a woman in the camp to the south (either in a tent or by a fire depending on the time of day) to get a quest and get a quest from the inn to fight some enemies as well. You also get a scene after starting the quest from the camp and losing to goblins. You can also talk to the blacksmith and buy a better weapon (the other clothes aren't in the game yet, no sprites)

The game is fairly early in development, so the content is fairly light right now (also fairly buggy).
 

souldead341

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I've lost to them so many times already, choosing a various answers in dialogue and haven't seen this scene. That the cause I am asking here. Am I doing something wrong?
You probably downloaded the sfw version that was uploaded here by mistake with one of the most recent releases.

You can check if you have a file called lewd.txt in your game folder. If you don't have that file you could re-download from itchio or here, which should have the latest nsfw version (not positive if the downloads here have been corrected, but I think they have been).

You can also just create a .txt file named lewd and save it in the game folder since the game just uses a simple file check based on the developer's previous posts here. Just use notepad (or a similar program) and make sure to save as a .txt.
 
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You probably downloaded the sfw version that was uploaded here by mistake with one of the most recent releases.

You can check if you have a file called lewd.txt in your game folder. If you don't have that file you could re-download from itchio or here, which should have the latest nsfw version (not positive if the downloads here have been corrected, but I think they have been).

You can also just create a .txt file named lewd and save it in the game folder since the game just uses a simple file check based on the developer's previous posts here. Just use notepad (or a similar program) and make sure to save as a .txt.
Thanks, it works now
 

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I'd need some help ! I cannot do anything in the game.

I got out of the tunnel. Then I found Ann and I let her suck for my pass, or I can also do iut myself. Then I cannot find her anywhere for the life of me.

I got to the church. Spoke to the man and got the outfit, and magic spell. Then got inside the town, saw an inn and went inside, got to sleep for 8 hours. man said "we'll speak tomorrow" but when I go back to him, he says the same thing and nothing happens.

I got to Alicia, then died to the bandits, got raped, nothing happens, alicia disappears. If I win, alicia is happy, cannot find her.

Past this point, there is NOTHING to do in the game. Not a single quest. I can go to Lamrock and lit up the place, but nothing happens. I can go south and find a camp,; but there is no one interesting there and nothing to see or do.

What am I missing?
As souldead341 said, you completed everything game has to offer right now. Since I didn't want to write everything from scratch every time I modified cutscene system, I had to wait until I finished cutscene system before adding more content. But it's finished, so from now on I'll be adding lot more content then before. We are holding polls about upcoming content, I'll also add the main story in the meantime.

Special NPC's like Ann and Alicia will be available after helping them, Ann will be at her house(which doesn't have any interior place atm) and Alicia will be working and staying at the Inn. As for the placeholder cutscenes, I think you are right, I'm just being too picky about those kind of things being incomplete.

As for the next update, I wanted to release it today, but I couldn't focus on project as I hoped this week so I plan to release it next week. Cutscenes and quest are ready but I didn't have chance to complete dialogues yet.

Also if anyone else downloaded SFW version from here, links are updated last week so be sure to download it again since game will crash at village gate if you deny Ann's offer.
 

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As souldead341 said, you completed everything game has to offer right now. Since I didn't want to write everything from scratch every time I modified cutscene system, I had to wait until I finished cutscene system before adding more content. But it's finished, so from now on I'll be adding lot more content then before. We are holding polls about upcoming content, I'll also add the main story in the meantime.

Special NPC's like Ann and Alicia will be available after helping them, Ann will be at her house(which doesn't have any interior place atm) and Alicia will be working and staying at the Inn. As for the placeholder cutscenes, I think you are right, I'm just being too picky about those kind of things being incomplete.

As for the next update, I wanted to release it today, but I couldn't focus on project as I hoped this week so I plan to release it next week. Cutscenes and quest are ready but I didn't have chance to complete dialogues yet.

Also if anyone else downloaded SFW version from here, links are updated last week so be sure to download it again since game will crash at village gate if you deny Ann's offer.
I can't wait to see future content, after a few pledges on other Patreon games, I've left disappointed but I know this game never disappoints so I'll be pledging really soon. Wish you both well!;)(y)
 
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I can't wait to see future content, after a few pledges on other Patreon games, I've left disappointed but I know this game never disappoints so I'll be pledging really soon. Wish you both well!;)(y)
I'm glad you are still with us, it means lot! We'll do our best to keep up to your expectations!
 
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Psycho-Dev BTW, I'm a freelance writer.

Since I like this game and have some time on my hands of late, I was wondering if you needed any help with dialogue.
I wanted to work with writers for side stories, dialogues, character backgrounds etc.. since I started implementing Yarn Spinner(which is a story writing tool mainly used for Unity) support for Gamemaker, so yes. I'll send you a PM.
 

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The plot does not go through, there is a minimum of jerking content, bugs at the blacksmith's that make you invisible, the fight without clothes is bugged and all this is generously seasoned with constant, sometimes every second, crashes on both the computer and mobile versions. What's the point of the recent update? Everything as it was unplayable and remained.
 

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The Linux Build is Broken

Why

See the “How to Fix” section below for details on getting the game working.

Due to the game files being moved and renamed the Linux builds do not show cutscenes and most content is broken.

The following builds work on Linux:
  • SFW Windows v0.5.5.22 works using Wine but is a little laggy.
  • NSFW Windows v0.5.5.22h works using Wine but is a little laggy.
These builds do not work on Linux:
  • SFW Linux v0.55.21.
  • NSFW Linux v0.55.22h.
The problem with the Linux builds is that the game is looking for files, let's say Main Story/First Time At Grimshear.json, that do not exist because they have been moved to the assets directory, for example assets/main_story/first_time_at_grimshear.json.

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The following only applies to the Linux builds; saving works when running the Windows builds using Wine.

Saving the game does not work for a similar reason: the game creates save data in ./Saves/(where . is the directory that the Kingdom_Lost executable is in) but looks for save data in ~/.config/Kingdom_Lost/saves/.
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How to Fix

You can run the following commands in the directory that the Kingdom_lost executable is in to get the fixed layout:
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The fix worked if after selecting “START GAME” you are presented with a dialogue box on a black background that says, “You are playing early version of Kingdom Lost, dialogues, assets, quests or gameplay mechanics can be made later.”
 
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The plot does not go through, there is a minimum of jerking content, bugs at the blacksmith's that make you invisible, the fight without clothes is bugged and all this is generously seasoned with constant, sometimes every second, crashes on both the computer and mobile versions. What's the point of the recent update? Everything as it was unplayable and remained.
Sorry to disappoint you, with this(0.5.5.2) update my main aim was to make the game as stable as can. We are aware of the lacking adult content, and with the current(0.5.5.3) I did my best to address that issue.
About bugs, as far as I'm aware, 0.5.5.22 has 2 game breaking bugs, if there are anything I'm not aware of, if you'd let me know I'd appreciate it.

The Linux Build is Broken

Why

See the “How to Fix” section below for details on getting the game working.

Due to the game files being moved and renamed the Linux builds do not show cutscenes and most content is broken.

The following builds work on Linux:
  • SFW Windows v0.5.5.22 works using Wine but is a little laggy.
  • NSFW Windows v0.5.5.22h works using Wine but is a little laggy.
These builds do not work on Linux:
  • SFW Linux v0.55.21.
  • NSFW Linux v0.55.22h.
The problem with the Linux builds is that the game is looking for files, let's say Main Story/First Time At Grimshear.json, that do not exist because they have been moved to the assets directory, for example assets/main_story/first_time_at_grimshear.json.

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The following only applies to the Linux builds; saving works when running the Windows builds using Wine.

Saving the game does not work for a similar reason: the game creates save data in ./Saves/(where . is the directory that the Kingdom_Lost executable is in) but looks for save data in ~/.config/Kingdom_Lost/saves/.
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How to Fix

You can run the following commands in the directory that the Kingdom_lost executable is in to get the fixed layout:
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The fix worked if after selecting “START GAME” you are presented with a dialogue box on a black background that says, “You are playing early version of Kingdom Lost, dialogues, assets, quests or gameplay mechanics can be made later.”
Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. I experienced similar issue with Android, but on a much simpler scale. Linux build was really messy but since you explained everything, it made it really easy for me to fix the problem. I changed how file operations work on Linux systems and as far as I tested, saving/loading and cutscenes works now, without renaming folders/files. There is one ugly visual bug(outline effect) and I believe it's game engines problem more then mine, but hopefully I'll find a way to fix that too one way or another.
 
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lirn

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IF you dead in mine before go into the city .you will be in the city and you can't getout
 
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