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This game has a good starting ground for the role the wife wants to take. To start off I love how the guy looks like a putz and is a little chubby trying to lose weight, but yet he is not such a pushover or a cocky jock. We don't get just thrown into the role of submissive either. I like how it is slowly building up to that.
 
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Torrent uploaded here ( ) and pre-seeded.
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Byczer

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Nice update. This game has dom, sub and romance route. It's hard to find them all together.
 

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Nice update. This game has dom, sub and romance route. It's hard to find them all together.
Most probably it will all eventually descend into a scenario where the wife treats the mc worse than a hobo from a junkyard, so enjoy it while you can ;)
P.S: I just hope it doesn't.
 

Aseratrix

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And no one blame you. I talk about variability, nothing else. It would be nice to have a choice after all.
I agree, within-game choices regarding adult content are good and even necessary to make a game more widely appealing, this may be avoided however if the game is set out to specifically cater to a certain range of fetishes and warns you about it in advance. In that case, I believe, the choice is still present: deciding whether or not the game is for us to play. Sadly for me, most femdom games are always pressured by the mobs to tone down on domination and fetishes rather than crank it up, so I am all for choices if that means the game is not domesticated into safe, vanilla oblivion.
 

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Very nice story developement. The vanilla approach to a Dom/Sub dynamic is really enticing. I hope you can keep an option for directing both spouses into a romantic, soft femdom relationship without it ending in non-con or any blackmail superiority complex stuff.
A bit of consensual, feel good femdom would be quite the novelty.
 

Aseratrix

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Very nice story developement. The vanilla approach to a Dom/Sub dynamic is really enticing. I hope you can keep an option for directing both spouses into a romantic, soft femdom relationship without it ending in non-con or any blackmail superiority complex stuff.
A bit of consensual, feel good femdom would be quite the novelty.
I hope, again, its not to the detriment of the real femdom content. I have nothing against a soft route, but if its the only route, it would be such a disappointment for me :(

And I totally disagree that the soft take on femdom is a novelty on this site. Quite the contrary, I struggle to find any non-con, extreme femdom based games, and nobody can accuse me about not searching enough.
 
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Innocience

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I hope, again, its not to the detriment of the real femdom content.
I'm not afraid of that given the options we're already presented with. Lots of potential fuck ups for the MC to deteriorate the relationship already and the wife having the option to cheat; so I assume begging and pleading to stay husband and wife will be at least one route down the line with all the common femdom aspects a lot of games already have.

Even if this soft route tones down the femdom - I think it would be beneficial in this case keeping the game more grounded. Being able to push back at times is more authentic. I don't think a couple is D/S 24/7 at home and still functioning like a healthy relationship.
 

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I'm not afraid of that given the options we're already presented with. Lots of potential fuck ups for the MC to deteriorate the relationship already and the wife having the option to cheat; so I assume begging and pleading to stay husband and wife will be at least one route down the line with all the common femdom aspects a lot of games already have.

Even if this soft route tones down the femdom - I think it would be beneficial in this case keeping the game more grounded. Being able to push back at times is more authentic. I don't think a couple is D/S 24/7 at home and still functioning like a healthy relationship.
Hmm I disagree.
Furthermore, I totally don't get why Urination is only optional. We all know that chubby MC needs a piss diet to lose some pounds.
 

Aseratrix

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I'm not afraid of that given the options we're already presented with. Lots of potential fuck ups for the MC to deteriorate the relationship already and the wife having the option to cheat; so I assume begging and pleading to stay husband and wife will be at least one route down the line with all the common femdom aspects a lot of games already have.

Even if this soft route tones down the femdom - I think it would be beneficial in this case keeping the game more grounded. Being able to push back at times is more authentic. I don't think a couple is D/S 24/7 at home and still functioning like a healthy relationship.
As I said I have nothing against you having your kind of route. As for me, I think that "D/S 24/7" is eminently healthy, no need to pathologize and kinkshame. And if its not healthy, who the fuck would aim to limit your freedom to engage in something based on the assumed authority of "health"? If that is such a major consideration, let's start with meat and alcohol consumption, never-mind mountain climbing, extreme kayaking and bungee-jumping.
 
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Innocience

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As I said I have nothing against you having your kind of route. As for me, I think that "D/S 24/7" is eminently healthy, no need to pathologize and kinkshame.
No kinkshame intended. Maybe our understanding of the D/S extent varies; hence the argument. I was thinking in a more extreme direction, going into the direction of (total) lack of self-determination, always right mentality, to slavery and - for all intents and purposes - abuse.
If all you mean by D/S is deferral to your significant other, while still having a say - sure. Nothing wrong with giving parts of your responsibility and control to others.
 

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No kinkshame intended. Maybe our understanding of the D/S extent varies; hence the argument. I was thinking in a more extreme direction, going into the direction of (total) lack of self-determination, always right mentality, to slavery and - for all intents and purposes - abuse.
Pathologizing is the epitome of kink-shaming, just saying. Yes, our understanding of D/s certainly varies, but most importantly, it varies what gets us aroused, there are no rules or boundaries you can rationally impose on what gets someone else off. As long as one can differentiate between fantasy and reality and more importantly as long as its consensual (yes there is such a thing as consensual non-consent), no harm can be demonstrated to exist outside the hurt values of someone, which is their business, which they should not project onto others and expect to be adhered to. I don't agree with the pathologizing which holds that there is such a thing as "danger to oneself", as long as a fully competent adult human being accepts responsibility over their decision to get harmed, it is no longer the business of anyone to hold that person "for their own good" coerced not to engage in something. That is paternalism, social control and pseudo-medical moral panic.

If all you mean by D/S is deferral to your significant other, while still having a say - sure. Nothing wrong with giving parts of your responsibility and control to others.
Almost. What I mean is that even if you decide to renounce all your say, and even if you give all, not just parts of your responsibility to others - the act of giving it up itself is THE thing you responsibly have chosen - is perfectly acceptable for me [especially in fantasy]. Even if its a "moral mistake" or even if its "wrong" from a number of pov's, its a freedom we should have. The measure of freedom of a society is the degree of how free you are to be wrong. The badness of a choice which is truly wrong is baked into its consequences anyways. But I would resent any seemingly benevolent intervention in the name of saving my own well-being from myself.
 
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Pathologizing is the epitome of kink-shaming, just saying.
I didn't even know what that word was supposed to mean until now. My mind and vocabulary is not exhaustive enough to philosophize about such stuff, even less so in English. (And I don't care for it to be frank.)

As long as one can differentiate between fantasy and reality and more importantly as long as its consensual (yes there is such a thing as consensual non-consent)
No argument there.

I don't agree with the pathologizing which holds that there is such a thing as "danger to oneself", as long as a fully competent adult human being accepts responsibility over their decision to get harmed, it is no longer the business of anyone to hold that person "for their own good" coerced not to engage in something.
Again, what people consent and want to have done to themselves is their deal as long as it doesn't affect others. Agree with you here.

That is paternalism, social control and pseudo-medical moral panic.
With my statement about 24/7 D/S I was applying that idea to every conceivable situation in a relationship that can occur. And I can't for the life of me, accept that such behavior in every of these conceivable situations may not be detrimental to a functioning relationship. I'm not talking about being paternalistic or actively engaging them to stop their behavior - I'm merely stating my opinion that I don't think such a relationship is healthy in the long run. Nothing to do about some "pseudo-medical moral panic."; just an opinion of an outward perspective.
If there's people that feel their kink is shamed by such statement - tough love. It's not like I'm calling anyone out on their lifestyle; but I sure as heck won't keep my thoughts quiet just for the slight chance my opinion may offend somebody.

Almost. What I mean is that even if you decide to renounce all your say, and even if you give all, not just parts of your responsibility to others - the act of giving it up itself is THE thing you responsibly have chosen - is perfectly acceptable for me [especially in fantasy]. Even if its a "moral mistake" or even if its "wrong" from a number of pov's, its a freedom we should have. The measure of freedom of a society is the degree of how free you are to be wrong. The badness of a choice which is truly wrong is baked into its consequences anyways. But I would resent any seemingly benevolent intervention in the name of saving my own well-being from myself.
Good on you, but my god - you must have felt offended badly. You can be at ease - I'm not going to take your chance away of doing whatever you want to consent to in your relationship. I was merely stating my preference for this story and what I think would be a more authentic, loving / romantic way of depicting a couple that engages in D/S.
 
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