Turret

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This is so wrong! :ROFLMAO:

Right after you leaked this, I removed the Mega links. But before I could delete WorkUpload & Mediafire, I saw fbass liked this and remember how many nice guys have been supporting me. So I didn't delete the rest because of that.
Thanks for that! As for patronage, like I told your chummers InsaneErotica and (I think I did to) MiZtyl as well, I patron and have patroned books and games before. But I have stopped "patronage" of Patreon the company, because they are developing towards being a greedy, hypocrite curse for artists the moment you don´t bow to their fracked-up and arbitrarly enforced rules.
Their last "genius" move is trying to pressure artists to follow patreon rules outside of Patreon, where these a... have zero to say! So no, thank you for throwing money down their throat.
I still patron artists with alternate options for patronage and wait for the free versions of the games developed by patreon-only Devs, like e.g. Pale Carnations, which I would support directly if they had other options. In cases like yours (where it is often not really clear what is the free version and the leaked one) I wait, as a nod to your work, with playing it until the version has aged a bit, so no play if it is leaked on the same day as first-tiers get it.
I am a hobby writer myself, so I know quite well what goes into creating something, which is why I limit myself to patroned and free or aged games.
 
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Captain Kitty

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Thanks for that! As for patronage, like I told your chummers InsaneErotica and (I think I did to) MiZtyl as well, I patron and have patroned books and games before. But I have stopped "patronage" of Patreon the company, because they are developing towards being a greedy, hypocrite curse for artists the moment you don´t bow to their fracked-up and arbitrarly enforced rules.
Their last "genius" move is trying to pressure artists to follow patreon rules outside of Patreon, where these a... have zero to say! So no, thank you for throwing money down their throat.
I still patron artists with alternate options for patronage and wait for the free versions of the games developed by patreon-only Devs, like e.g. Pale Carnations, which I would support directly if they had other options. In cases like yours (where it is often not really clear what is the free version and the leaked one) I wait, as a nod to your work, with playing it until the version has aged a bit, so no play if it is leaked on the same day as first-tiers get it.
I am a hobby writer myself, so I know quite well what goes into creating something, which is why I limit myself to patroned and free or aged games.
I don't know what you told miztyl, but I saw what happened with mfw.
I have a subscriberstar account, but I don't use it because it requires credit card. I have cards, but I use paypal because it's not wise to receive money directly to a bank in a country that doesn't allow porn.
Patreon's customer service told me they don't care what's happening outside Patreon. Which means if I developed another version of Summer of Love and posted it on other forums, they wouldn't ask me to take it down even if there was incest in it.
As for supporting, this is my thought:
1. Without piracy (F95, thepiratebay...), a lot of developers wouldn't have appeared because they don't know they can develop like this as well as no free assets to use. Example: if I didn't play Culture Shock & My Girlfriend's Amnesia, there wouldn't be The Engagement, Summer of Love.
2. After having money from supporters, developers go back to buy on daz3d to support the original creators of the assets.
3. These sites are the place to promote the games. Without these sites, no one knows the games.
It's a cycle, which helps beginners start developing without having to submit to tycoons in the business.
 

Turret

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I don't know what you told miztyl, but I saw what happened with mfw.
I have a subscriberstar account, but I don't use it because it requires credit card. I have cards, but I use paypal because it's not wise to receive money directly to a bank in a country that doesn't allow porn.
Yes, the credit card/bank account receiving money for "hot xxx stuff"thing is very tricky, esp. over country and law borders. In my nation cash is still king, so I discontinued my credit card, which is more of a burden here, especially since our debit card system is old and very wellworking. I am very careful when patroning, even the non-hot stuff, so I see your problems well.
Patreon's customer service told me they don't care what's happening outside Patreon. Which means if I developed another version of Summer of Love and posted it on other forums, they wouldn't ask me to take it down even if there was incest in it.
That is interesting, since I know a developer who was told in no uncertain terms what would happen if he dared to develop just a 18+ patch for his game outside of Patreon. It seems it depends much on what kind of person/type the patreon overseer is, who is responsible for your games/books.
As for supporting, this is my thought:
1. Without piracy (F95, thepiratebay...), a lot of developers wouldn't have appeared because they don't know they can develop like this as well as no free assets to use. Example: if I didn't play Culture Shock & My Girlfriend's Amnesia, there wouldn't be The Engagement, Summer of Love.
2. After having money from supporters, developers go back to buy on daz3d to support the original creators of the assets.
3. These sites are the place to promote the games. Without these sites, no one knows the games.
It's a cycle, which helps beginners start developing without having to submit to tycoons in the business.
:)(y)
 

Lonewolftee

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Apr 1, 2019
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This is so wrong! :ROFLMAO:

Right after you leaked this, I removed the Mega links. But before I could delete WorkUpload & Mediafire, I saw fbass liked this and remember how many nice guys have been supporting me. So I didn't delete the rest because of that.
You know I support you too right? I wont post anymore links or about talk about your games in the future and sorry for upsetting you. Good luck with it
 

tombombadinho

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Sep 22, 2021
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Where are the F95zone link for your other game?
I've just finished My Friend's Family and love it, but i can't find the link anymore. A want to bookmark the game for future updates
 

Dragul17

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I didn't mean it that way, but thanks a lot.
I'm all for supporting creators in fact I've bought several games on dlsite. The problem becomes when a game in development takes a long time. We see a lot of games abandoned despite a loyal following and funders. For me f95 is like a demo site if I like the game I will later go out and buy it. For games in development I'm even more picky about who I support because at any time the project can be canceled. This game feels nowhere near finished and same with your New Earth which I love. If these 2 ever reach Steam or dlsite as a full game I would 100% buy them even without a sale. But for now it feels like a demo kinda like a here's how things are going. The development for this game has taken a year and a half 18+ months $3 is $54. As much as I love the game it's not a triple A title, but it's definitely worth a lot more than some of those other steam games. I support your efforts and look forward to buying the full game!
 

Turret

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I'm all for supporting creators in fact I've bought several games on dlsite. The problem becomes when a game in development takes a long time. We see a lot of games abandoned despite a loyal following and funders. For me f95 is like a demo site if I like the game I will later go out and buy it. For games in development I'm even more picky about who I support because at any time the project can be canceled. This game feels nowhere near finished and same with your New Earth which I love. If these 2 ever reach Steam or dlsite as a full game I would 100% buy them even without a sale. But for now it feels like a demo kinda like a here's how things are going. The development for this game has taken a year and a half 18+ months $3 is $54. As much as I love the game it's not a triple A title, but it's definitely worth a lot more than some of those other steam games. I support your efforts and look forward to buying the full game!
I too like to buy games reaching Steam, which I want to/had patroned. For example Startraders is a great game and absolutely worth the cost, if you like Space RPG.
I also hope that Summer of Love and New Earth reach Steam one day, so I can show my appreciation! But as I wrote in another thread, it is important that eroge games on Steam get an age-rating from the Dev and several non-erotic tags, like Dating Sim. That is because several nations and mine is one of them, got cut off from many indie erotic games due to age verification stuff, since Steam went the easiest way about it.
This leads to some rather bizarre circumstances for buying eroges. For instance, one can still buy "The ditzy demons" main VN on our Steam, but not the expansion, which we still get advertisment for!
 

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Updated walkthrough? Or mod?

Is there a posibility having a gallery so which that we can re watch it the scenes again..
 
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