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i checked the patch it's just enable the true story so that's mean the game is already has incest and the patch is not just fan mod
my question is the relations in this game just will be father/daughter? or more?
Shh! Keep it down the Patreon Police might hear you! :LOL:
That'll be in the future for sure by the looks of it yeah, and the 2 Mother-Daughter pairs I guess.
 

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Thank you for naming the file with the game title. So many times I end up trying to piece together which patch.rar or patch.zip goes with which game in the folder I download everything to.
I know right! That's why i zipped it as well. To many times, i go to get a patch and it opens in Notepad or something, lol.
So a quick first impression ...

1. That intro was incredibly painful. It's been mentioned before so I won't belabor the point, but it's quickly very frustrating ... and, yeah, of course, Ren'py allows skipping unread text, but you'd assume there's critical information there, not just random stuff. I'm not saying you can't have the player set names/nicknames and put a NTR warning there, or whatever, but don't go on rants (much as I can understand the urge); be crisp about what's needed, and if you want to do go on NTR rants and dev logs and wherever, do that where it can be quickly skipped ... separate from the actual game.
2. The italic font is very thin and not necessary perfect for reading. I mean, it could be worse. But it also could be better.
3. Speaking of Italy: YOU AREN'T ALLOWED ON THE LAWN at the Piazza del Duomo. Frankly, the guy deservers to be in jail and this oversight makes the game absolutely unplayable!!! It completely undermines the setup!!!!!
4. Personal preference, but I'm not a big fan of being capable of reading other character's minds (esp. just when it's convenient ). Should be unnecessary.
5. Too many "Haha"s I'd say. Most of them can also safely be removed - or at least it should be more varied, or something. But typically you don't need them, vns do tone through context (and visuals).

... also, yeah, just kidding about #3. In case that's not clear ^^ Though it is indeed not allowed, that photo could have easily gotten them into trouble ;)

Anyway. Pretty solid what I've seen so far. Feels non-generic, which is always a plus.
1. I kinda locked myself in that intro segment, because it was part of the Prologue before. I see that it's too long and needs an overhaul, and also an option to just skip it. This was one of the consequences of my decision to stop the sandbox work and stay straight VN as i originally had a whole different "hub" kinda thing planned for directing the flow of the story.

After Christmas, I think I am going to look hard at how I can improve that beginning and perhaps do a quick update/hotfix for it.

2. I was thinking about playing with the fonts a bit more, but it got lost in the last minute stuff. I'll see about making it a bit bigger. Not sure if you noticed, but you can adjust the text window transparency in this game, so that helps a bit.

3. I did not know that , lol. That's actually one of the very first renders from the prologue. Italy is one place i didn't get to when I worked in Europe (long time ago)

4 and 5. I'm still learning the skills in the writing department. So much of what I want to convey is visual, but I am just not at the level yet to do animations and every render is a ton of work. I'll get better!

Appreciate the feedback!
 

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Turning Tricks Dev I'm just going to tell you that I did a quick game check and this is going to get the Ban Hammer on f95 per rule 7 for sure, the daughters of most women in the game don't look very developed for being "over 18", and iirc Patreon also has problems with that, or you make a Patch with all that content outside the game or open an account in SS, to have a backup accou.
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So as I understand it the incest is lesbian? Also MC has his ex wife and daughter right?
There won't be any content with the Ex. The MC despises what she did. At most, there might be some reference to her off scene for contextual purposes. What Avaron1974 said about the MD stuff and the possible MFF content is pretty much dead on.

I have it on good authority though, that the maker of the patch ;) will probably be adding a fork in Act 2 where ...

The MC tries to reconnect with his daughter and can choose one of two paths, one of which will be incest content with her.
 
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Turning Tricks Dev I'm just going to tell you that I did a quick game check and this is going to get the Ban Hammer on f95 per rule 7 for sure, the daughters of most women in the game don't look very developed for being "over 18", and iirc Patreon also has problems with that, or you make a Patch with all that content outside the game or open an account in SS, to have support...
Just so you know...

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Wait, we get to rename characters like the prison guard, friend and tenants... but not the actual daughter?... I wonder if that means she won't be appearing in the game...

This is somewhat promising... It feels like maybe you get locked into a path over fairly small decision though - I'm on the love path with the grandmothery one (I guess just because I chose to have a beer with her, out of pity), despite not being interested in her at all, and end up having to fuck her with no choice about it, which was odd... also I wonder why the daughters are all listed as "side character" they seem as important as the others, perhaps they only have one route?... Oh and I actually wanted to bareback the dirty homeless girl for $20.

Very glad it's not a sandbox, that'd definitely have just made it a ballache for 0 gain.

But yeah I'd play some more for sure.
 
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Wait, we get to rename characters like the prison guard, friend and tenants... but not the actual daughter?... I wonder if that means she won't be appearing in the game...

This is somewhat promising... It feels like maybe you get locked into a path over fairly small decision though - I'm on the love path with the grandmothery one (I guess just because I chose to have a beer with her, out of pity), despite not being interested in her at all, and end up having to fuck her with no choice about it, which was odd... also I wonder why the daughters are all listed as "side character" they seem as important as the others, perhaps they only have one route?... Oh and I actually wanted to bareback the dirty homeless girl for $20.

Very glad it's not a sandbox, that'd definitely have just made it a ballache for 0 gain.

But yeah I'd play some more for sure.
I don't want to spoil the devs plans but don't worry about the granny, you won't end up in a relationship with her. She's married for starters. She wants a bit of fun but isn't looking for anything long term.

The homeless girl has a bigger role which is why you didn't get to treat her like shit then.

The younger girls are side characters in their mothers stories and the MC's daughter is going to be in the game.
 

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Wait, we get to rename characters like the prison guard, friend and tenants... but not the actual daughter?... I wonder if that means she won't be appearing in the game...

This is somewhat promising... It feels like maybe you get locked into a path over fairly small decision though - I'm on the love path with the grandmothery one (I guess just because I chose to have a beer with her, out of pity), despite not being interested in her at all, and end up having to fuck her with no choice about it, which was odd... also I wonder why the daughters are all listed as "side character" they seem as important as the others, perhaps they only have one route?... Oh and I actually wanted to bareback the dirty homeless girl for $20.

Very glad it's not a sandbox, that'd definitely have just made it a ballache for 0 gain.

But yeah I'd play some more for sure.
I'll just add...

I wasn't sure I would have the daughter in future content when I created her in the Prologue and I had some renders showing her diploma and stuff, so that is why I had her name locked. I've changed my plans though and for Act 2, before you actually meet her, I will have her fully customizable as well.

As for Laura ...

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so ntr switch turned off.

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yea......... and with that good luck with the game. this why I don't even touch games with ntr in them or optional but when i heaerd you can switch it off and it's a different path i was like ok let's see. When I turn off ntr that means I don't want to see it period, especially with the ex wife or any form of it.

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good luck with the game dev tho, just not for me, personally.

the non ntr path is not ntr free and having potential love interest who are dancers or prostitutes isn't for me.
Well, first of all, the Ex is a character in the MC's past that is central to the story. She's not an LI and, in fact, will not appear in the rest of the story, other then as a possible mention (for context) by the MC and/or his daughter. So if that's an issue for you .... I dunno *shrug*

Secondly, I clearly state in the intro that these are supposed to be real people and some of them have pasts. Again, I'm not bending time or changing reality to turn a mature mother who just happens to be a stripper into a 'pure-as-driven-snow' virgin. And if you ever actually spent time in a strip club or knew any strippers, you'd know that most of them will not allow you to even touch them. Heck, many clubs will toss you on your ass if you even try. Not saying there aren't a lot that will do that stuff in the back, but it's not the norm. Especially for the good ones.
 

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so ntr switch turned off.

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yea......... and with that good luck with the game. this why I don't even touch games with ntr in them or optional but when i heaerd you can switch it off and it's a different path i was like ok let's see. When I turn off ntr that means I don't want to see it period, especially with the ex wife or any form of it.

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good luck with the game dev tho, just not for me, personally.

the non ntr path is not ntr free and having potential love interest who are dancers or prostitutes isn't for me.
I just can't with you anti ntr lot anymore.

Stripping isn't ntr, ntr is having a love one taken and causing jealousy.

The ex isn't a love interest, she's there for story purposes and won't ever appear again.....

This isn't a harem builder where you are going to be the be all and end all of every girl and keep them all to yourself, they have lives. Some are in relationships.
 

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I didn't say stripping was ntr. I said the EX WIFE part was so read. Don't matter if she isn't a current love interest no one wants to see that on a non ntr path. I said april being a stripper and going with a dude to give a private dance just not a good look to a potential love interest imo.

And I also never called it a harem builder so idk wtf you talking about,
stop making stuff up. No one said they couldn't have lives but playing a non ntr part should bend it to make it enjoyable for people who is not on the NTR PATH.

just my opinion he don't have to change a thing, just gonna pass.
The cheating wife is necessary story wise. It's kind of the whole premise of the game. And considering April is literally a stripper, I don't know why you're complaining that she's dancing for people. If you turned NTR on you'd see that she doesn't do anything besides dancing - not even any touching(she only did in the NTR scene to make MC jealous for fucking her colleague right next to her, and even then she didn't fuck her client).
 

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not even any touching(she only did in the NTR scene to make MC jealous for fucking her colleague right next to her, and even then she didn't fuck her client).
wait did i not readed that it is not alowed to touch stripper or they will toss yout out? i am little bit confused with this now :D she doesnt do anything beside dancing/ she did it to make MC jealouse in one sentence... :unsure:
 

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The cheating wife is necessary story wise. It's kind of the whole premise of the game. And considering April is literally a stripper, I don't know why you're complaining that she's dancing for people. If you turned NTR on you'd see that she doesn't do anything besides dancing - not even any touching(she only did in the NTR scene to make MC jealous for fucking her colleague right next to her, and even then she didn't fuck her client).

It don't matter if it's necessary story wise.

if we playing a non ntr path it could have just had the mc explaining it on that part instead of showing the wife cheating with the boss come on now. No way a scene like that should be on a non ntr paths and it's ways to do it.

back to april. I never said it was ntr, I said it was a bad look.

even if no one touches her it still ruins her for me personally so fuck that.

like I said if you enjoy it more power to you but not me so imma move on. even april was trying to make the mc jealous NOW THAT IS NTR because it was to cause jealousy.

it's obvious if you going for a non ntr route it still has a form of ntr and baiting in it.

why make a ntr off switch and say it will be different paths then?
 

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It's a private room and they say the bouncer looks the other way. April doesn't allow any touching except for the one scene to make MC jealous, other stripper fucks MC to make April jealous.
and now i am definitely confused....so they will toss u out from touching but u can fuck them....s
 
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