blademaster89

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I can't believ it I have to explain simple text. Game start and just in the beginning dev cleared " mc : I fall in love with my girlfriend mother."

In love route : Low corruption and her dialogues changes at many times. Example : Mc and nicole date(Make different choices hare dialogue changes).

As story progress " If mc make right choices nicole fall in love with mc " Again Clearly said by dev " When mc kisses nicole after date and she comes back to mc " and after that dev statement : NICOLE BELONG TO MC.

" THE PROCEDURE COULDN'T BE MORE EXPLAINED : MC WILL DO ANYTHING TO STEEL NICOLE BECAUSE THAT IS THE WOMEN MC LOVES."

Explaining further more : Take a look at statements where sitting in park alone and thinking about nicole(He is in love.).

IT'S A LOVE STORY.

About her husband : I don't give flying f###. Nicole belong to mc. That is that.(I will not go into her husband character because that will be too much to write.)

If mc's girlfriend could not face 3 day to be ignored and she open her leg for fat-old F###. Then F### her too. In Every single game-play I broken up with her.


Understand this ?
This game in my personal point of view : It's a love story where mc take any measures to take away women he fall in love with.

If mc make right choices she fall in love with mc and many many times it's pointed out,Mc will do anything to take her away the women he fall in love with and I don't share anything and I mean it. I will not eat pissed food even if i am staring to death and this apply on everything even on VN character.


Please understand any player which love to share(No matter the degree of it) their women they love in games with anyone and be happy about, Good for you. Keep on doing that I don't care and from this point keep all your universal knowledge to your self about sharing and advocating about it.
My-my I think I struck the mother of all nerves here, I like your answer though, I really do, especially of the girlfriend character :ROFLMAO:. My point was purely technical, nothing personal what so ever, I wish to write more but this is not the correct forum to do so and I don't know if you are amicable for a PM, anyways. You do you :)
 
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blademaster89

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Well, i understand that NTR originally had some specific meaning. But nobody really cares. At this point, it's more like a feeling, than a tecnical term, from what i see in discussions.

So, most people, doesn't care, will it tecnicly be a NTR if Nicole will fuck with her husband. And the dev, promising no NTR with Nicole, understands it.
The sad truth really.
 

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My-my I think I struck the mother of all nerves here, I like your answer though, I really do, especially of the girlfriend character :ROFLMAO:. My point was purely technical, nothing personal what so ever, I wish to write more but this is not the correct forum to do so and I don't know if you are amicable for a PM, anyways. You do you :)
WHEN I SAID THIS :
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Please understand any player which love to share(No matter the degree of it) their women they love in games with anyone and be happy about, Good for you. Keep on doing that I don't care and from this point keep all your universal knowledge to your self about sharing and advocating about it.
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That statement was in for general.

My-my I think I struck the mother of all nerves here : About this, Like i said i really don't care. "" People listen lie so much that when someone tell them truth, for long time their mind take long time to process it. further more there was nothing about winning or losing. It's was about personal felling regarding game and point of view. Just like I said in my first comment. ""

It's neither important nor I care about " technical terms "(Because they are social construct, people bend them like their legs). When I am personally involved in something(On personal point of view), It's not important for me what the other says becasue my point of view is my personal business and it's not important for me that anyone agree or not whatsoever and it's goes both way.

About "amicable" :
I don't follow social standard because when i make relation i intend to stand by them at any cost and that let me not being social man but I have blessed with very few best friend(+20 years) and a great family, out of that It's void to me yet I give my honest opinion and advice(If asked for or if I care about something).

About this VN Game : Definitely I love this game. That is exactly why I made comment what could go wrong but if any case if it does it's the property of dev and can do whatever he likes just like I can say or make my statement about it or leave it all together and move on. simple as that.

In the end I stand by my words.
 
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Antonie van Leeuwenhoek

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2D/3D graphics, I see them as dolls, personal interpretation really and if they were real, I would consider that as actors/actresses playing their part in accordance to the script provided, ironically like dolls in a playhouse where you are the director.
Interesting way to look at it, and I'm not judging you or anything. Some of us fools get emotionally involved with the "character" even if it's for few hours that it's gets slightly touchy. Purpose of visual novel is to swim into it plot/storyline, immerse into the character (imagine yourself playing the actor not some 3dcg model), enjoy the instances when you get bored. And that's where it differs from pornhub, obviously the end goal is sex but those are some of the things that porn site (even though they are real) can't provide but adult vn does.
 

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Interesting way to look at it, and I'm not judging you or anything. Some of us fools get emotionally involved with the "character" even if it's for few hours that it's gets slightly touchy. Purpose of visual novel is to swim into it plot/storyline, immerse into the character (imagine yourself playing the actor not some 3dcg model), enjoy the instances when you get bored. And that's where it differs from pornhub, obviously the end goal is sex but those are some of the things that porn site (even though they are real) can't provide but adult vn does.
Thank you for not judging :p and I agree with the immersive part. The only point I wish to add is that this immersion should not get to levels that it becomes unhealthy, where people get so immersed into something that they literally try to blur the line between actual life and a story. The reason why we play VNs is because we want to immerse ourselves into the story from the point of view of the story teller, not impose our stories on him/her, you know what I'm getting at.

I find it amusing when people go bonkers if their characters or their LI do something that they do not personally approve of, if its only for fan service, then the anger is agreed but what if it is required for the plot?

Take this game for example, people bicker over a wife having conflicting emotions over her husband, where the husband suddenly shows "interest" in her, as an antagonist of course. She is after all a wife and a deeply conflicted one with a manipulative husband that has all the time in the world to turn our MC's lover against him.

the emotions need to be enjoyed the right way, the pain of loss, the anger, the misery is all part and parcel of that VN process, most don't want that and they only want the happy endings, its akin of having your cake and eating it too lol.

Man this is a topic that we can chat on for days lol and kid you not, it is bloody interesting, but my 2 cents is that people should be tolerant of the POV of the story teller.

I personally am no different from you all, my MC doesn't share, but there are times where I have to swallow my pride for the sake of the story.
 

Antonie van Leeuwenhoek

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Thank you for not judging :p and I agree with the immersive part. The only point I wish to add is that this immersion should not get to levels that it becomes unhealthy, where people get so immersed into something that they literally try to blur the line between actual life and a story. The reason why we play VNs is because we want to immerse ourselves into the story from the point of view of the story teller, not impose our stories on him/her, you know what I'm getting at.

I find it amusing when people go bonkers if their characters or their LI do something that they do not personally approve of, if its only for fan service, then the anger is agreed but what if it is required for the plot?

Take this game for example, people bicker over a wife having conflicting emotions over her husband, where the husband suddenly shows "interest" in her, as an antagonist of course. She is after all a wife and a deeply conflicted one with a manipulative husband that has all the time in the world to turn our MC's lover against him.

the emotions need to be enjoyed the right way, the pain of loss, the anger, the misery is all part and parcel of that VN process, most don't want that and they only want the happy endings, its akin of having your cake and eating it too lol.

Man this is a topic that we can chat on for days lol and kid you not, it is bloody interesting, but my 2 cents is that people should be tolerant of the POV of the story teller.

I personally am no different from you all, my MC doesn't share, but there are times where I have to swallow my pride for the sake of the story.
I find it amusing that you find it amusing about people going nuts over a character. Human mind is too complex too grasp. You can't say someone having unhealthy emotions just because he/she is going bonkers. End of the day it's the writer/developer that has the remote we are just earnies but one can put the point across if he/she doesn't like certain part, extent of it can be mild to sometimes irritating but that doesn't mean their way of feeling the emotion is wrong. You take it by swallowing your pride, some by writing the shit load of para, some by just ignoring thread/patron, some spamming again and again. We are just shooting in the dark. If the same emotional feelings can achieved by two different variables with ascending order of damage then may be the one with less damaging should be preferred or else it may ruin the cause.
 
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Has Dev given a possible ETA on 11 yet? It has been what? A year plus since 10....?
ETA unknown, but still under seven months since 10 dropped. It does feel like a minute but there have been recent progress updates and when new Nicole update comes out it's always been worth it.
 
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ETA unknown, but still under seven months since 10 dropped. It does feel like a minute but there have been recent progress updates and when new Nicole update comes out it's always been worth it.
Was like, watching people tear each other a new one(no shit ,a guy above der posted his life story here) ....and am thinking 'Nice.. esteemed enthusiasts be engaging in stimulating debate. Must mean the update is close! And then you sir, tell that the update isint remotely close....So wtf were those guys fighting for!:ROFLMAO:
 

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John is such a strange and evil character that I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he has known that MC has been fucking his wife from the beginning and that he is watching the security footage of their liasons on his phone while he forces his secretary to blow him. It also wouldn't surprise me to find out that he is a sorcerer and is responsible for Beeman banging his daughter. It also wouldn't surprise me to find out that he is secretly Satan and fathered MC long ago before his parents adopted him. All just to groom MC to inherent either his company, witches coven, or the throne of hell.
 

blademaster89

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John is such a strange and evil character that I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he has known that MC has been fucking his wife from the beginning and that he is watching the security footage of their liasons on his phone while he forces his secretary to blow him. It also wouldn't surprise me to find out that he is a sorcerer and is responsible for Beeman banging his daughter. It also wouldn't surprise me to find out that he is secretly Satan and fathered MC long ago before his parents adopted him. All just to groom MC to inherent either his company, witches coven, or the throne of hell.
This could actually be made into a spin off! Duck!
 
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I find it amusing that you find it amusing about people going nuts over a character. Human mind is too complex too grasp. You can't say someone having unhealthy emotions just because he/she is going bonkers. End of the day it's the writer/developer that has the remote we are just earnies but one can put the point across if he/she doesn't like certain part, extent of it can be mild to sometimes irritating but that doesn't mean their way of feeling the emotion is wrong. You take it by swallowing your pride, some by writing the shit load of para, some by just ignoring thread/patron, some spamming again and again. We are just shooting in the dark. If the same emotional feelings can achieved by two different variables with ascending order of damage then may be the one with less damaging should be preferred or else it may ruin the cause.
just ignore him...i don't even know what the heck he is smoking... but worry or not, he soon will get bored and left, it's like video games, tho who knew it, gonna love it and stick with it till the end, those who don't will trash it and left with nothing.
 
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Just checking in.... is there any hope for a path with a scene involving both the gf and her mom?

.... Yes, I see the lack of incest tag and I realize it's a sore subject around here, but I'm wondering if any hints were dropped that might suggest a future direction. (Plus a lot of people don't consider f/f incest to merit the tag, because hurr durr penis.)
 
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REGUser

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Why the replay gallery doesn't cover all available scenes????
It's not perfect and it's missing some scenes. Currently it only covers Nicole's scenes but is also missing the dream scene of MC having sex with her and cucking John.
 
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