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So it's exactly what i predicted long ago, i said that each update seemed to cover one day and that as we were monday i guess we needed 5 updates till the party. Then with some maths, one update each 3 months, it would make the party come only next year.
If each update brings a lot of content it's ok, like in BAD, but if it's just a few dialogues and a few teasing scenes, i will stop following that game as i did for many others that seemed promising but which ended beeing just some milking project.
in my opinion three months is nothing compared to other games especially for quality


I know games that don't look as good as this and takes 5 to 6 months for One update sometimes even 1 year

and the developer actually apologized for taking 4 months to make one update



and I know developers that take over a year for one update and when you ask them about it the developer actually insults you

don't misunderstand me I was very frustrated about the lack of action between Jenny and the MC but

I don't think that the developer is blue balling us on purpose this is not a fuck Fest game

I am so grateful that the MC of this game is not a sex obsessed moron
 
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Tbf when you are a bunch of college kids hiding from the Mafia is not the best time to have some sexy times.
This can be a problem in the long run because the game is overly dramatic with everyone having problems.
Not the best scenario to fap.
They had enough time to take naps, post up and watch movies, swim, go to dinner, etc. Theyre getting chased by a cartel but in actuality theyre basically having a hotel slumber party.

Im sure sex could be squeezed into that itinerary or replace one of those events. Game doesnt do itself any favors by Jill-ing all the LIs which is a lesson it oddly seems to have forgotten after CH. 1.
 

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I'm getting some Acting Lessons vibes from this latest chapter. It's also been quite a while since I've hated an antagonist this much. AOA academy has a way of telling its stories that many AVN's on this site can learn from. I'm very curious as to how the antagonists will be dealt with, Jenny's brother specifically. We're not even halfway through the story and I already hate him with a burning passion. I also really want to know how Jill's betrayal will be handled. I understand that she needs the marriage for her own wellbeing and probably some things which we have yet to know about, but she basically sold the life of someone else because of her own selfish needs. And not some random person, but a girl who has been raped and abused over and over for years and just wants to live a life of peace. At this point in time, I have absolutely no sympathy for Jill and I hope she receives just as severe a punishment for her actions as Jenny's brother whenever that time comes.

And what is up with all the people here so riled up about sex scenes? There are other AVN's on this site where you can find sexual scenes in like the first 10-20 minutes. Instead of trying to get a dev(that's doing everything right might I add) to conform to how you believe their AVN should be, why not play another AVN altogether? The updates are on time, the story is flowing and coherent, and the characters are well-written. The only real issue is that the routes are not equally explored each update, and it's debatable on whether or not that's an actual problem. The routes are being updated, but some LI's will naturally receive more attention than others every update. Cannot expect the dev to make everyone happy each update. The routes are coming along with the scenes, but these things take time. It's better for the dev to organically deliver them on their own time, than to rush and mess things up. If you want sex scenes so bad, then go to another AVN. Complaining about it will not do anything. Seriously, has complaining worked positively on any other dev?

This update was wonderful as usual, and I'm really curious to see how The Dalias Cartel, Jenny's brother, and Jill are going to be dealt with. I was anxious during this whole update because of the Acting Lessons vibes I got from the story lol. I really hope none of the LI's or other characters have to die during this whole ordeal. I hope the dev has a way for all of them make it out safely. Too many Acting Lessons flashbacks for my tastes...
 
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Fools and onanists rush in where angels fear to tread... as they say... or as I say anyway! :p
The "sin of Onan" wasn't masturbating, it was denying his sister-in-law a creampie. He was supposed to impregnate his dead brother's widow in order to provide and heir to his brother (instead of inheriting himself). He chose to pull out instead of impregnating his sister-in-law.
Because they subconsciously perceive the beta character of the mc,:rolleyes:
and they spontaneously start the mode of dealing with beta male,it is unconscious,:geek:
Puts beta mc in friendzone:)
The way Alpha/Beta believers go on reminds me a bit of Flat Earthers. Both groups present simplified hypotheses that ignore the complexity of the real world and dismiss the evidence and work of actual experts in the field.
 
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I'm getting some Acting Lessons vibes from this latest chapter. It's also been quite a while since I've hated an antagonist this much. AOA academy has a way of telling its stories that many AVN's on this site can learn from. I'm very curious as to how the antagonists will be dealt with. Jenny's brother specifically. We're not even halfway through the story and I already hate him with a burning passion. I also really want to know how Jill will be handled. I understand that she needs the marriage for her own wellbeing and probably some things which we have yet to know about, but she basically sold out the life of someone else because of that. And not some random person, but a girl who has been raped and abused over and over for years and just wants to live a life away from all of that darkness. At this point in time, I have no sympathy for Jill and I hope she receives just as severe consequences for her actions as Jenny's brother whenever that time comes.

And what is up with all the people here so riled up about sex scenes? There are other AVN's on this site where you can find sexual scenes in like the first 10-20 minutes. Instead of trying to get a dev(that's doing everything right might I add) to conform to how you believe their AVN should be, why not play another AVN altogether? The updates are on time, the story is flowing and coherent, and the characters are well-written. The only real issue is that the routes are not equally explored each update, and it's debatable on whether or not that's an actual problem. The routes are being updated, but some LI's will naturally receive more attention than others every update. Cannot expect the dev to make everyone happy each update. The routes are coming along with the scenes, but these things take time. It's better for the dev to organically deliver them on their own time, than to rush and mess things up.

This update was wonderful as usual, and I'm really curious to see how The Dalias Cartel, Jenny's brother, and Jill are going to be dealt with. I was anxious during this whole update because of the Acting Lessons vibes I got from the story lol. I just hope none of the LI's or other characters have to die during this whole ordeal. I hope the dev has a way for all of them make it out safely. Too many Acting Lessons flashbacks for my taste...
my sister I agree with everything you just said

and that you may not believe this but

I actually hate acting lessons that game made me cry like a little BITCH and it sent me into a severe depression

I don't care if it's cliche or lame I actually love stories with a happy ending on a good love story

and hey wouldn't it be cool if we could snap Jenny's brother's neck like a twig
 

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in my opinion three months is nothing compared to other games especially for quality


I know games that don't look as good as this and takes 5 to 6 months for One update sometimes even 1 year

and the developer actually apologized for taking 4 months to make one update



and I know developers that take over a year for one update and when you ask them about it the developer actually insults you

don't misunderstand me I was very frustrated about the lack of action between Jenny and the MC but

I don't think that the developer is blue balling us on purpose this is not a fuck Fest game

I am so grateful that the MC of this game is not a sex obsessed moron
My concern was not exactly about a lack of sexual content, i can play a slow pacing game with much pleasure if there is a lot of good content to play at each update.
I'm not playing those game just as fap material, i prefer a good story, a good writing and a nice work on the graphic side.
I still haven't play the last update, but by what i see here i don't feel that much has been going on.
Ok it's just a beta so maybe a lot is still missing, but if there is no major event going on and no real sexual content also, it starts to get me a little worried.
Those games where there are multiple paths can cause a problem when an update just takes care of one or two paths and ignore the others.
I loved the start of that game and the characters, but with time passing you cannot just develop some love affairs during many updates without setting up an important event or plot change/progress.
If i take BAD as example, with each update there was a cliffhanger or a main event or a plot change, i can say that DPC really knows how to handle his business !!
 

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The "sin of Onan" wasn't masturbating, it was denying his sister-in-law a creampie. He was supposed to impregnate his dead brother's widow in order to provide and heir to his brother (instead of inheriting himself). He chose to pull out instead of impregnating his sister-in-law.

The way Alpha/Beta believers go on reminds me a bit of Flat Earthers. Both groups present simplified hypotheses that ignore the complexity of the real world and dismiss the evidence and work of actual experts in the field.
Thanks for that. As an atheist Biblical myths of course mean nothing to me as I'm sure you appreciate. I suggest that you look up the modern meaning of the word "onanist" in an dictionary to discover that my use of the word, in context, was entirely appropriate. Here's a link to such a webpage to save you the trouble of finding your own:



How odd to be challenged, incorrectly, on a thread I have never visited before, about etymology on a site devoted to hard core pornography! o_O Thanks for the smile :) your post gave me anyway and keep up the good work. (y) This site could certainly do with regular injections of levity and humour to buoy it up in my opinion. ;)
 
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And what is up with all the people here so riled up about sex scenes? There are other AVN's on this site where you can find sexual scenes in like the first 10-20 minutes. Instead of trying to get a dev(that's doing everything right might I add) to conform to how you believe their AVN should be, why not play another AVN altogether?
I will never understand how people fail to acknowledge the harm this view has on VNs. These forums are not a microcosm of the average VN consumer, its a bubble. Do you want the developer to have the funding to work on this VN full time? Do you want the dev to have the funding to upgrade their rig for increased quality & speed? Do you want the dev to have the finding to potentially grow a team?

If you answered yes to any of those questions and still believe lewds should be sidelined youre either hopelessly optimistic or unfortunately delusional/misinformed.

I feel like ive been having to repeat this a lot, but your favorite slow burn VN likely has not cracked at minimum 2K patrons and its a near certainty it never will. The bubble that is F95 does not represent the majority of the VN community.

Look at games like DeLuca Family and Summer's Gone, the most popular slow burns with millions of hits in their threads...... But an extremely small number of patrons even with years on the market.

All this to say, youre basically telling the dev to go out of their way to leave food off of their plate to the detriment of us all, yourself included, for the exact reason I stated---your average VN consumer will not open their wallets for a slow burn. You can literally confirm this yourself right now.

If you want the VN you enjoy to take off it needs good lewds. This is not a debate, it is the objective reality.

The updates are on time, the story is flowing and coherent, and the characters are well-written.
Like I said, im not trying to shit on the dev at all. I want this game to be great otherwise I wouldnt even bother, id ignore the thread and move on.

Although im not a fan of this chapter there is a lot of content in this beta which proves this dev can work very efficiently. One would be a fool to deny the outstanding effort theyve put in so their productivity isnt an issue at all.

Your stance on the characters and story though? Ehh... Only if you pretend chapter 1 never happened, I guess.
 
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Ok it's just a beta so maybe a lot is still missing, but if there is no major event going on and no real sexual content also, it starts to get me a little worried.
the ending is missing, but the dev said he's focused on solving the issues of the girls 1st before harem starts so
I wouldn't be too optimistic.

when it comes to ashley & jenny I'm pretty sure their sex scenes will get postponed till version 7-8 comes out.

ashley said she wanted to wait for a week before they get sexual & each update depicts a day in the mc's life so there will be quite a lot of waiting for that to happen.

jenny won't have sex with mc till their ball dance scene is over with, that's at least 3 updates into the future.

The way I see it valery is the only girl outside of jade who might get sexual with the mc after her dealings with the cartel get solved.
 
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The way Alpha/Beta believers go on reminds me a bit of Flat Earthers. Both groups present simplified hypotheses that ignore the complexity of the real world and dismiss the evidence and work of actual experts in the field.
Yes, yes, the earth is flat and A/B males do not exist. Good things come to niceguy.
 

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They had enough time to take naps, post up and watch movies, swim, go to dinner, etc. Theyre getting chased by a cartel but in actuality theyre basically having a hotel slumber party.

Im sure sex could be squeezed into that itinerary or replace one of those events. Game doesnt do itself any favors by Jill-ing all the LIs which is a lesson it oddly seems to have forgotten after CH. 1.
Stressed women are dry as the Death Valley. Sure this is a game and the dev can do whatever he wants but then again some kind believability is needed.
 
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My concern was not exactly about a lack of sexual content, i can play a slow pacing game with much pleasure if there is a lot of good content to play at each update.
I'm not playing those game just as fap material, i prefer a good story, a good writing and a nice work on the graphic side.
I still haven't play the last update, but by what i see here i don't feel that much has been going on.
Ok it's just a beta so maybe a lot is still missing, but if there is no major event going on and no real sexual content also, it starts to get me a little worried.
Those games where there are multiple paths can cause a problem when an update just takes care of one or two paths and ignore the others.
I loved the start of that game and the characters, but with time passing you cannot just develop some love affairs during many updates without setting up an important event or plot change/progress.
If i take BAD as example, with each update there was a cliffhanger or a main event or a plot change, i can say that DPC really knows how to handle his business !!
The Beta has a decent chunk of the night left to finish as opposed to previous releases, where pretty much only the epilogue was missing
 
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My concern was not exactly about a lack of sexual content, i can play a slow pacing game with much pleasure if there is a lot of good content to play at each update.
I'm not playing those game just as fap material, i prefer a good story, a good writing and a nice work on the graphic side.
I still haven't play the last update, but by what i see here i don't feel that much has been going on.
Ok it's just a beta so maybe a lot is still missing, but if there is no major event going on and no real sexual content also, it starts to get me a little worried.
Those games where there are multiple paths can cause a problem when an update just takes care of one or two paths and ignore the others.
I loved the start of that game and the characters, but with time passing you cannot just develop some love affairs during many updates without setting up an important event or plot change/progress.
If i take BAD as example, with each update there was a cliffhanger or a main event or a plot change, i can say that DPC really knows how to handle his business !!
FairPoint bro

I still don't like bad though maybe one day I'll play it but after that game broke my heart Forceing me into a Treeway open relationship just to be with the girl I like

at least this game does not force you into a relationship with Jade just to be with Jenny

all I know is this game has a great story and a amazing love story between Jenny and MC
 
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FairPoint bro

I still don't like bad though maybe one day I'll play it but after that game broke my heart Forceing me into a Treeway open relationship just to be with the girl I like

at least this game does not force you into a relationship with Jade just to be with Jenny

all I know is this game has a great story and a amazing love story between Jenny and MC
I myself quite like Bad and its story tbh tho i mostly play it for Bella Sage and Jill only so there's quite a few girls that i think are cute but ultimately could do without which is the complete opposite with A.O.A and it's girls where i actually like and want to romance all of them sure i got favs but making me care about so many LI all at once is a thing very few games have managed to accomplish i also do enjoy the story more here overall
 
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I like Bad tho i mostly play it for Bella Sage and Jill only so there's quite a few girls that i think are cute but ultimately could do without which is the complete opposite with A.O.A and it's girls where i actually like and want to romance all of them sure i got favs but making me care about so many LI all at once is a thing very few games have managed to accomplish i also do enjoy the story a lot more here tho do think Dik's one is quite good as well overall
What is this game y'all are calling BAD? I'd like to check it out.
 
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the ending is missing, but the dev said he's focused on solving the issues of the girls 1st before harem starts so
I wouldn't be too optimistic.

when it comes to ashley & jenny I'm pretty sure their sex scenes will get postponed till version 7-8 comes out.

ashley said she wanted to wait for a week before they get sexual & each update depicts a day in the mc's life so there will be quite a lot of waiting for that to happen.

jenny won't have sex with mc till their ball dance scene is over with, that's at least 3 updates into the future.

The way I see it valery is the only girl outside of jade who might get sexual with the mc after her dealings with the cartel get solved.
Good point, if thats true, with this pace we need to wait 6-8 months more before Valery to get sexually involved with MC and waiting 1-1.4 year for Ashley and Jenny to get sexual scenes. Our world will chance a lot. :ROFLMAO:

But, i will wait for Jenny, i actualy don't care of others that much, since i owe a big deal to Jenny, she gave me an opportunity to experience new life.
 
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