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It looks like slow burn games aren't as popular as normal games.
We are getting there :) hopefully...

If I want just to read a story I would pick a book, no avn can compete with a good book.
Yeah but a book usually doesn't have pictures or at least pictures of beautiful girls! And it's linear while VNs often allow some sort of choices.
Also well it's easier to play through a VN and kinda gives more pleasure. Yeah, shame me...
 

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The scenes between Jenny and the MC are awkward as fuck in this update because for some reason they can't kiss. If you go her route they like each other, there is no point in slowing down things between them in that case.
Thats true, but since there are decent chunk of content still under development to progress and animations are yet to be uploaded, provably we might get some spicy kissy moments with Jenny.
 
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We are getting there :) hopefully...


Yeah but a book usually doesn't have pictures or at least pictures of beautiful girls! And it's linear while VNs often allow some sort of choices.
Also well it's easier to play through a VN and kinda gives more pleasure. Yeah, shame me...
and don't forget people like me who cant read and that has a reading disability
 
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So, am I to understand that out of 3 chapters there's only 1 bowjob and 1 sex scene with Jade? The sexual tension with Jenny is fantastic, but does it lead anywhere? Is there content with the others?
 

Dragon59

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Thanks for that. As an atheist Biblical myths of course mean nothing to me as I'm sure you appreciate. I suggest that you look up the modern meaning of the word "onanist" in an dictionary to discover that my use of the word, in context, was entirely appropriate. Here's a link to such a webpage to save you the trouble of finding your own:



How odd to be challenged, incorrectly, on a thread I have never visited before, about etymology on a site devoted to hard core pornography! o_O Thanks for the smile :) your post gave me anyway and keep up the good work. (y) This site could certainly do with regular injections of levity and humour to buoy it up in my opinion. ;)
I wasn't so much challenging you, as remarking on the strange history of the term. For centuries, it was the second definition in your link, coitus interruptus. Adding masturbation to the principle came out of the Protestantism and their beliefs against masturbation. I mainly mentioned it because Onan fucking his sister-in-law (at the command of his father) seemed more appropriate to the games here. We already have a game here that pivots on the story of Lot and his two daughters.

With my ADD, I tend to have a brain for trivia.
You know what actually is a social construct, the garbage you're saying.
Wow. Sorry it's such a touchy subject for you.
 

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I myself quite like Bad and its story tbh tho i mostly play it for Bella Sage and Jill only so there's quite a few girls that i think are cute but ultimately could do without which is the complete opposite with A.O.A and it's girls where i actually like and want to romance all of them sure i got favs but making me care about so many LI all at once is a thing very few games have managed to accomplish i also do enjoy the story more here overall
When i took BAD as example i did not mean to compare the story or the characters, the two games are based on a college setting but are very different also.
What i wanted to explain it's the basic structure of a good game especially when you have to take in account the fact that it will be delivered in many updates during a long period of time.
When you develop such a game you need to think about those facts and not just go on with the story and cut it anywhere or you will piss off many of your customers.
In BAD each update contains a part of the story with a lot of playtime and some events which make each update enjoyable. It's more some modular way to make an update, not just the simple continuation of what happened before.
That's why that game has so much success and the thread of that game here has more than 7000 pages !! Even if there can be up to 5/6 month between two updates.
I AOA the beginning was also very promising because the MC was a very good character, the girls were gorgeous and interesting and the story contains a lot of mysteries. All the ingredients to make a very good game, we all try to guess what's all about Adam and his shady business, what's about Jenny and her strange story, the twisted relation between Jenny her adoptive father and her brother. There is also the mystery about Valery and the other girls seem to have all a trouble background.
But now the dev has to really be cautious about how he will develop his game and cut the content in many updates, there is plenty of stuff as i said to make many little sub-stories that can give the player something to chew on in each update.
The worst would be to let everything be solved in the end after maybe more than a year of waiting and a dev like DPC has perfectly understood the principles of that kind of game.
 
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Canto Forte

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Should you go for Jade ... just givng her what she needs will have you 3 times in her wonderful arms,
She is the one with the most life experience, just like MC, putting off Uni because of caring 4 someone.
So there it is .. MC is older, Jade is older, they can connect on a level the others cannot.
So, am I to understand that out of 3 chapters there's only 1 bowjob and 1 sex scene with Jade? The sexual tension with Jenny is fantastic, but does it lead anywhere? Is there content with the others?
You should try the walkthroughs with saves from the OP and this page. See where it goes.
Any other gurl is just teasing, Jen lets you touch, because of her motherly instincts.
 
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If I want just to read a story I would pick a book, no avn can compete with a good book.
The whole reason people download the adult games on this website, is because of the fact that they are interactive stories which you can control. Take it from me, I'm published in several different languages. While a book can provide exquisite literature and leave you with intense emotions at the end, it relies on the power of your imagination first and foremost. You cannot make a choice to prevent the MC from making a mistake, you cannot explore what a relationship would look like with that attractive side-character that always catches your attention, and you cannot change how the MC goes about dealing with the antagonist.

Interactive stories are becoming evermore popular these days because they give you the freedom to do everything that was previously mentioned. It's because people prefer to control their own destinies and change their own stories as they see fit, as opposed to a fixed story where you are taken for a ride with no control of what happens. BADIK is not as popular as it is, just due to the art and music elements of it. It is the most popular AVN right now, due to the fact that people can insert themselves into the position of a strapping young man, surrounded by beautiful women. The player base consists of people who want to control how that kind of story goes for them. Do you think BADIK would be as popular as it is, had it been a kinetic novel?

My point isn't about the quality of renders or coding, I was talking about popularity. It looks like slow burn games aren't as popular as normal games. If I want just to read a story I would pick a book, no avn can compete with a good book.


Nobody is asking for a moron MC or a fuckfest, just some sex scenes here and there with our favorite girl. There are plenty of games like that. Don't use sex as the final boss in your game.
The scenes between Jenny and the MC are awkward as fuck in this update because for some reason they can't kiss. If you go her route they like each other, there is no point in slowing down things between them in that case.
Surely you realize that there are literally dozens of AVN's on this site that can fulfill your desires, do you not? And as far as popularity is concerned, I fail to see how 2 million views is a problem. It's popular enough, and I don't see how popularity equates to the actual quality of The AVN. It's actually one of the more popular AVN's on this site, and while it's no BADIK, it's doing pretty great for a "slow burn". Also, the scenes between Jenny and MC are meant to be awkward. Jenny's never felt this way about anyone before. She doesn't know what to do or how to approach her feelings without doing something she'd regret. We see her literally say something to the effect of this during their dressing room scene in Chapter 2. This is all on top of the other issues she has going on and her trying her best to deal with them. She didn't even feel comfortable taking a nap in this latest chapter(just an example to show her current state and how much she is dealing with). Aside from Jenny, almost every other major LI has their own problems and issues that they have to deal with. At the end of the day, it's like you said. There are plenty games out there where you can have some sex scenes with your favorite girl. But if you're not ready to wait, then maybe this isn't the right AVN for you.

PS: Sorryyy if any of this seems rude or disrespectful. I did not mean to sound or come off as rude, mean or disrespectful. It's hard to argue in english without sounding rude.
 
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The whole reason people download the adult games on this website, is because of the fact that they are interactive stories which you can control. Take it from me, I'm published in several different languages. While a book can provide exquisite literature and leave you with intense emotions at the end, it relies on the power of your imagination first and foremost. You cannot make a choice to prevent the MC from making a mistake, you cannot explore what a relationship would look like with that attractive side-character that always catches your attention, and you cannot change how the MC goes about dealing with the antagonist.
To branch off the earlier comment, "if I want to see sex without story and choices, I'll watch porn."
Surely you realize that there are literally dozens of AVN's on this site that can fulfill your desires, do you not? And as far as popularity is concerned, I fail to see how 2 million views is a problem. It's popular enough, and I don't see how popularity equates to the actual quality of The AVN. It's actually one of the more popular AVN's on this site, and while it's no BADIK, it's doing pretty great for a "slow burn".
And there is also the point of "Letting the developer tell the story they want to tell."
 

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To branch off the earlier comment, "if I want to see sex without story and choices, I'll watch porn."

And there is also the point of "Letting the developer tell the story they want to tell."
Nobody has said that. I want the dev to tell their story, adding sex scenes to a porn game (This is a porn game) won't change that.
 
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CHP.3 Public release progress and my thoughts
Hi everyone! I'm here to report on the progress of the public release and my current thoughts on the project.
Before I begin, I hope that everyone understands that BETA releases are incomplete, and it's especially true in CHP.3, compared to previous releases.
First and foremost, in previous beta releases, I always made sure that almost all, if not all, of the scenes and "adult" - content are finished and implemented along with the release, often at the expense of scenes I'd prefer to make regarding other aspects of the story.
I did this to avoid a certain type of complaint from a certain group of people.
CHP.3 is the first one that doesn't follow this rule. This is simply due to the size and amount of scenes that I have to finish before the final part of the chapter (the night scenes).
I preferred to put the climax of the chapter during the night. Since this chapter doesn't include most of the night scenes, I put a disclaimer to everyone that a significant portion of the chapter is not finished. Apparently, some individuals didn't get the message, so I'll use this opportunity to remind everyone again.
I don't find joy in purposefully blue-balling anyone.
I set up scenes with a certain character so that I can deliver a worthy conclusion during the night, it's really that simple.

Yes, there are scenes in the prologue chapter that didn't belong, and I did that explicitly to avoid this type of 'complaint' from people. In a way, I have to sacrifice a little bit of my vision so that I can sleep in peace.
The first time I felt the pressure to change Jenny's character and rush her arc to completion in a single prologue release, I lost a lot of my faith in my own ability and crumbled to the pressure. The story I had planned and made had to be cut and changed. That's why the first two chapters can feel awkward, it's simply because important story elements are changed or just simply missing. Characters aren't meant to be able to trust you in a single chapter.
Never once in my life, I'd think that I can feel dread and anxiety about something that I've made myself, but that first release made me realize how wrong I was. I will never forget the first week of the prologue's release. It was a terrible experience.
I care about this project, about the characters in the story, and I want to do those characters justice. I believe that this 'arc' based approach I currently have is the best, and allows each character to shine in their own, unique, yet twisted light.
However, this doesn't mean I won't make any adult scenes at all. I will, and there are planned scenes in the current chapter and upcoming chapter too.
That being said, progress is smooth so far. I don't expect delays for both the public and gold release. Thanks again for your support and I will do my best to make something that I can be proud of.
 

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We get it already .. Jade is the babe to be with for any meaningful adult connection.

Others are just virgins on the relationship scene, Jenny is used to girls being offered up
among business partners, like the wonderful hotel manager her dad promissed Adams dad.

Val and the piano babe are used to much older men - friends or brothers of their dads - to man handle them
or possibly court them with the blessing of their fathers, or not, jury is out on Rose about this idea.

Then the Ash and Vic with Sun in toe bunch are just so sheltered dealing with their own family
hard times to actually ever fall head over heels for anyone up until now.

MC is the only real orphan, having literally nobody in his corner:
Jen has her girls possy, to which MC is some kind of chaperone,
Ash has her friends and Sun to deal with that are somewhat closer and more intimate with her about MC,

Vic seems to be somewhat in MCs corner so far, bonding over the violent bully bro being a neusance.

May the game go on, then, find some rithm gamers can settle into.
 

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CHP.3 Public release progress and my thoughts
Hi everyone! I'm here to report on the progress of the public release and my current thoughts on the project.
Before I begin, I hope that everyone understands that BETA releases are incomplete, and it's especially true in CHP.3, compared to previous releases.
First and foremost, in previous beta releases, I always made sure that almost all, if not all, of the scenes and "adult" - content are finished and implemented along with the release, often at the expense of scenes I'd prefer to make regarding other aspects of the story.
I did this to avoid a certain type of complaint from a certain group of people.
CHP.3 is the first one that doesn't follow this rule. This is simply due to the size and amount of scenes that I have to finish before the final part of the chapter (the night scenes).
I preferred to put the climax of the chapter during the night. Since this chapter doesn't include most of the night scenes, I put a disclaimer to everyone that a significant portion of the chapter is not finished. Apparently, some individuals didn't get the message, so I'll use this opportunity to remind everyone again.
I don't find joy in purposefully blue-balling anyone.
I set up scenes with a certain character so that I can deliver a worthy conclusion during the night, it's really that simple.

Yes, there are scenes in the prologue chapter that didn't belong, and I did that explicitly to avoid this type of 'complaint' from people. In a way, I have to sacrifice a little bit of my vision so that I can sleep in peace.
The first time I felt the pressure to change Jenny's character and rush her arc to completion in a single prologue release, I lost a lot of my faith in my own ability and crumbled to the pressure. The story I had planned and made had to be cut and changed. That's why the first two chapters can feel awkward, it's simply because important story elements are changed or just simply missing. Characters aren't meant to be able to trust you in a single chapter.
Never once in my life, I'd think that I can feel dread and anxiety about something that I've made myself, but that first release made me realize how wrong I was. I will never forget the first week of the prologue's release. It was a terrible experience.
I care about this project, about the characters in the story, and I want to do those characters justice. I believe that this 'arc' based approach I currently have is the best, and allows each character to shine in their own, unique, yet twisted light.
However, this doesn't mean I won't make any adult scenes at all. I will, and there are planned scenes in the current chapter and upcoming chapter too.
That being said, progress is smooth so far. I don't expect delays for both the public and gold release. Thanks again for your support and I will do my best to make something that I can be proud of.
I don't think anyone will stop the author from doing what he wants, but as long as he doesn't charge for it. If it's the sex scenes that most patrons want, then you should only charge them from the moment the sex scenes appear in the game, and do the rest of the creativity at your own expense. I think in this case there will be no negative comments about the author.
P.S.: I'm not a patron, but what I suggested I think is right.
 

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Patrons must have really complained about lack of lewd scenes, huh?

I do believe there's a middle ground though, there's no need to rush to sex scenes, but what's wrong with having Jenny kiss the MC, people don't need to fully trust each other to kiss if there's attraction between them.
i think the dev just forgot about Jade, the girl who blows you in front of the others the first minute you encounter them, or who let's you fuck her in the changing room one or two days later!!
Where is the trust here ?
 
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i think the dev just forgot about Jade, the girl who blows you in front of the others the first minute you encounter them, or who let's you fuck her in the changing room one or two days later!!
Where is the trust here ?
He didn't, It seems like Jade scenes are there just to add some sex earlier and avoid blue balling complains.
Yes, there are scenes in the prologue chapter that didn't belong, and I did that explicitly to avoid this type of 'complaint' from people. In a way, I have to sacrifice a little bit of my vision so that I can sleep in peace.
 

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He didn't, It seems like Jade scenes are there just to add some sex earlier and avoid blue balling complains.
Yes that's the problem when you write a VN, either you stick to your vision just like a book writer or you follow the trend like a soap writer.
All you have to do is decide if you want to make it for fun or for money.
But the way he did it with Jade was no so good, it felt wrong and rushed.
 

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He didn't, It seems like Jade scenes are there just to add some sex earlier and avoid blue balling complains.
Please READ Jade's dialogue.
(There appears to be a wee bit more to her that at first glance)
 
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Yes that's the problem when you write a VN, either you stick to your vision just like a book writer or you follow the trend like a soap writer.
All you have to do is decide if you want to make it for fun or for money.
Saddly true, good visuals + fuck fest = money...also boring
But the way he did it with Jade was no so good, it felt wrong and rushed.
Not really, she is a ex whore and a nympho, so some easy casual sex fits her character.
For Vic Val it will be a lot harder to make that believable, after being abused and raped for an unknown amount of time, by her 'uncle' and others of the gang, any kind of intamacy should take a very long time and a lot of difficulties to establish.
 
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