- Thread starter HangoverCat
- Start date
- Oct 5, 2019
- 268
- 172
Just look at the possible endings in the menu, it tells you what to choose
Hi Tom.Oh, look. It's Bob again.
Hi, Bob.
I wasn't comparing it to Laura, Bob. If you read what I typed you'll see that I was deliberately creating extreme examples for simplicity's sake.
But whatever. I respect your diversity.
... However, I cannot respect your diversity here.
In fact, I'm 85 to 90 percent sure that you're wrong.
Welcome to my TED Talk on the subject.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
But, of course, we'll have to wait and see. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go to work.
So we not just see Laura differently but we have very different views on morality and corruption.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
Last edited:
- Mar 17, 2022
- 70
- 76
Wow, i think this game is one the most successful if not THE most successful ntr game i've ever seen. this game spark and born many debates, discussion, whether is pros or cons against it. Tons of arguments and wall of text appears simultaneously just to prove a points, whether you like the game or not. i like this debate community. once again bravo, bravo HangoverCat
I need the save previous to this update, with the choices for the abrupt ending, can anyone share it?
- Oct 5, 2019
- 268
- 172
So going through this new route doesn't unlock any new sex scenes. Are they at the end of the already finished routes?
My first post here, but had to comment since I grew a little obsessed with this game.
Despite enjoying how much Laura sinks into depravity, I kinda want an ending for Harry where his mind breaks, ends up killing Luca, and then proceeds to dominate Laura (and Aya too maybe) through fear which she ends up getting off even more thanks to Luca's initial corruption.
Despite enjoying how much Laura sinks into depravity, I kinda want an ending for Harry where his mind breaks, ends up killing Luca, and then proceeds to dominate Laura (and Aya too maybe) through fear which she ends up getting off even more thanks to Luca's initial corruption.
- Jul 10, 2018
- 13
- 10
- May 7, 2021
- 59
- 67
- Nov 1, 2017
- 4,705
- 10,050
Well there's a happy ending as well as a hero ending planned I think, maybe in happy ending we get to end with Harry and his gf, and MAYBE Harry, his gf and Aya in hero ending or something else
I don't know much, I am not on discord with the author have just seen the planned ending parts, maybe these endings are for those who don't like to be cucked, and the endings presently in development are for cucks.
Both types of customer gets satisfied this way, game is still on production, reason I downloaded and played is cause of arts. Damn, the arts are really nice, apart from the story, not much of a cuck kind of guy . It also helps developer to get feedback and reviews in the development process.
But real fun would be after it gets completed.
- Sep 21, 2018
- 137
- 312
Thanks for the replies. I'm glad it pushed the debate farther.
... but Harry doesn't get that. Understandably Harry's agency in the story is limited in the game's incomplete form and in this route he is oblivious. Which throws all fault at Laura once the app goes open alpha. Harry couldn't react to what he doesn't know. He doesn't have a chance to be strong or even weak. He never asked for this. There is no conflict at all between Harry and any of the characters. He has no clue that he's drinking Luca's semen with his coffee. He just going to wake up one day 20 years or so later and somehow Laura will be flicking it to telling him his children aren't blood related to him. It's kind of bad.
Laura leaving Harry with two of Luca's kids. Letting him believe they are his, would check the boxes in a far more believable way. She somehow, comically, hates the very air around Harry so much she could never tolerate another second around him much less jump on his penis. We don't have the full game, so my thoughts on the story could be wrong.
For instance why does Luca hate Harry so much? Harry may have done something extremely horrible to Luca or his family, and all this is Harry's just desserts. Laura does not have a reason to do this to Harry. The man works long hours to support her, even through her disgusting physical changes, and her child single-handedly, through this route. Luca, however, may have good reasons, they'd have to be very good reasons to justify this level of pure hatred. I don't even know if it counts as humiliation, there's no reveal to give that reaction to Harry. It's like what happens in 'The Edge of', one the routes has the MC basically becoming mentally ill. To point of nothing happening seems real. Then the check boxes get ticked.
I can't say I've seen the same, at least not comparable to this story, with sex. Still I don't doubt it, the world is a big place.
HC is very much doing a good job and there is plenty of room to grow, to refine the craft. I don't know if the design doc and scope of the game will allow as rich of a story as seen in the beginning of the story. The first route delivers that just fine though. Not that I don't like the lighter, but somewhat still heavy do to the content, stories of Gyaruzuma Sex, Gal Kano, Gal Wife Anri, and My Beloved Childhood Friend. They are just sexy, eros, no strings attached fantasy. Maybe this route is suppose to be just like this. Comically evil Laura activated eyes meme route. Throwing the story in favor of ticking the boxes. Not great, but not totally bad. I mean for a truly realistic story, Laura would've just called the police, her bosses, and everyone she could to get the story out, but that means no sexy time.
In Jin's Tachiban story MC gets at least a light reveal. Yamakumo's Atarasii Oneesan MC's truely tragic, foolish actions, and inaction, double impact, causes his relationship with MH to change forever. It's left open for sequel bait, but still stands on it's on with a proper conclusion. Seto Yuuki's Chitose has the MC dive penis first into the degenerancy, only to come up for air and realize his relationship he wanted with MH was already gone.
The choice to not go along with the story and avoid to the whole mess, fleshes it out. What would happen if MC just said no? Just being able to do that increases player agency many times over. Give the player clear idea of what MC is crushing, what he's missing out on, with his choices and actions. MC knows, why not let the player see? Even if it just cuts to an ending, far better with a lovely scene as a reward, or even a middling scene as in Please Bang My Wife 2 Sequel. That's something that manga can't do. Something that 'Scars of Summer' completely missed out on.
What I want is that good writing that I know HC can write. The title screen CG is totally hot, I only wish we could pop Aya's boobs out, though I get the sense that it's tied to progression now. Oh, and where is the CG of Aya drugged and topless? I know that's rich coming from a post on this site, but still. So far if just this route is kind of bad, I'd be fine with it. I'd still call 'Promise Best Left Unkept' a great game, one of the best really in the genre.
You folks got me thinking about so many things I normally don't think about; What I like about the genre and which stories in it I like best, addiction, corruption, evil, and so on. Thanks. I hope the feedback helps as it's all I can give.
I would not spend this much time critiquing a game I didn't like. Any good story has to present a good conflict with a satisfying conclusion. This genre has interesting conflicts between MC, MH, and Antag. MH conflicts with Antag, and to a lesser degree MC, with her relationship with MC on the line.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
... but Harry doesn't get that. Understandably Harry's agency in the story is limited in the game's incomplete form and in this route he is oblivious. Which throws all fault at Laura once the app goes open alpha. Harry couldn't react to what he doesn't know. He doesn't have a chance to be strong or even weak. He never asked for this. There is no conflict at all between Harry and any of the characters. He has no clue that he's drinking Luca's semen with his coffee. He just going to wake up one day 20 years or so later and somehow Laura will be flicking it to telling him his children aren't blood related to him. It's kind of bad.
Laura leaving Harry with two of Luca's kids. Letting him believe they are his, would check the boxes in a far more believable way. She somehow, comically, hates the very air around Harry so much she could never tolerate another second around him much less jump on his penis. We don't have the full game, so my thoughts on the story could be wrong.
For instance why does Luca hate Harry so much? Harry may have done something extremely horrible to Luca or his family, and all this is Harry's just desserts. Laura does not have a reason to do this to Harry. The man works long hours to support her, even through her disgusting physical changes, and her child single-handedly, through this route. Luca, however, may have good reasons, they'd have to be very good reasons to justify this level of pure hatred. I don't even know if it counts as humiliation, there's no reveal to give that reaction to Harry. It's like what happens in 'The Edge of', one the routes has the MC basically becoming mentally ill. To point of nothing happening seems real. Then the check boxes get ticked.
I understand addiction is horrific. I personally seen so many terrible tragic events in the people around me, to due drugs and foods.
I can't say I've seen the same, at least not comparable to this story, with sex. Still I don't doubt it, the world is a big place.
HC is very much doing a good job and there is plenty of room to grow, to refine the craft. I don't know if the design doc and scope of the game will allow as rich of a story as seen in the beginning of the story. The first route delivers that just fine though. Not that I don't like the lighter, but somewhat still heavy do to the content, stories of Gyaruzuma Sex, Gal Kano, Gal Wife Anri, and My Beloved Childhood Friend. They are just sexy, eros, no strings attached fantasy. Maybe this route is suppose to be just like this. Comically evil Laura activated eyes meme route. Throwing the story in favor of ticking the boxes. Not great, but not totally bad. I mean for a truly realistic story, Laura would've just called the police, her bosses, and everyone she could to get the story out, but that means no sexy time.
Yeah, it's fair to say that the normal future route is good. Nothing too forced narrative wise. It does what so many games, manga, anime, fail to deliver; a good believable tragic story, with porn of course. You may be right and I just find that the MC knowing nothing makes the story fall flat with no real conclusion. I'm not completely sure on that point. Though moral degeneration/corruption and evil are not completely the same. Laura banging Luca cause it feels good, even if it's wrong, is corruption. Now annihilating Harry's life, short of killing him, for no reason, no gain, is evil. It's far darker than Laura's moral degeneration. What I don't understand is why Laura would be so evil? Luca is part of it, but not to that level. Laura's body is sexy, she could easily setup a train to run on her, if she didn't want to go along with Luca and the terrible acts they did to Harry. Would be a narratively sound way to check the 'MC sees MH in the middle of a gangbang' box. Solidifying the corruption/moral degradation angle.
In Jin's Tachiban story MC gets at least a light reveal. Yamakumo's Atarasii Oneesan MC's truely tragic, foolish actions, and inaction, double impact, causes his relationship with MH to change forever. It's left open for sequel bait, but still stands on it's on with a proper conclusion. Seto Yuuki's Chitose has the MC dive penis first into the degenerancy, only to come up for air and realize his relationship he wanted with MH was already gone.
The choice to not go along with the story and avoid to the whole mess, fleshes it out. What would happen if MC just said no? Just being able to do that increases player agency many times over. Give the player clear idea of what MC is crushing, what he's missing out on, with his choices and actions. MC knows, why not let the player see? Even if it just cuts to an ending, far better with a lovely scene as a reward, or even a middling scene as in Please Bang My Wife 2 Sequel. That's something that manga can't do. Something that 'Scars of Summer' completely missed out on.
What I want is that good writing that I know HC can write. The title screen CG is totally hot, I only wish we could pop Aya's boobs out, though I get the sense that it's tied to progression now. Oh, and where is the CG of Aya drugged and topless? I know that's rich coming from a post on this site, but still. So far if just this route is kind of bad, I'd be fine with it. I'd still call 'Promise Best Left Unkept' a great game, one of the best really in the genre.
You folks got me thinking about so many things I normally don't think about; What I like about the genre and which stories in it I like best, addiction, corruption, evil, and so on. Thanks. I hope the feedback helps as it's all I can give.
First of all the set up of MC was completely unbelievable. Nobody in the corporate world dating or not would give someone else access to their office especially passwords and pin codes that kind of thing. So the entire set up of the story falls short. Secondly Laura could have easily avoided this guy. All she had to do was record him talking and then report him. He would be the one in trouble not the MC and not her. Because it would expose him as a saboteur and she could educate MC privately to say the two of them planned it all to get the jerk in trouble. But that's why we call it porn logic. For me there is nothing exciting in this story at all. Yes the models are nice but the concept makes my skin crawl. I checked out the first release and as soon as Laura agreed so easily that was it for me. Also the antagonist, nobody in the corporate world would work with someone like him. I don't care about connections or whatever he is too easy to read. anyway onto something I will enjoy.
We have just 2 endings so far. Normal route (aka hard NTR) has 2 of the harsher outcomes for the male MC. As I said, the more hopeful NTR endings like what you see in Azienda games is likely gonna be the good route ending (although that's still speculation on my part).
As for Laura being evil, one of the major focus in the story was Laura's innate demons and how her psychology was twisted by Luca. I mean, that was the point of the corruption arc. The end point is where she loses all respect for Harry, but keeps him around because its fun to cheat on him. It enhances her sex life. She'd rather have him there to be cucked unknowngly than to just run off with Luca. And Luca also enjoys this situation more than something more standard. That's fucked up, but it's not like she's being evil just to make Harry suffer for no reason. He is fodder for her enjoyment, so there is a selfish cunt justification for it.
---------------------------------
On a different note, I saw some discussions about the hacker in the previous pages. I'm pretty certain that the culprit is Aya.
- She has been shown multiple times to be extremely sharp and intelligent. Her clutzy persona is almost certainly a front. Towards the end, when she is compemplating giving up on Harry, she is quite serious and mysterious. There is definitely something more to her.
- Genius hacker acting like a horrible coder just seems like a very natural character trope.
- This "sorry" reveal at the end makes quite a bit of sense from a dev perspective to foreshadow her character development in Aya route.
- Someone pointed out that Aya has been said to leave messages for Harry in the comments. That is a strong hint.
As for why it probably isn't Laura.
- If the code was inserted very early in development, it would be before her corruption. It makes no sense. That would require a rule, and even then, Laura wouldn't let that kinda rule stand at that stage. She would cancel it with priority. Plus, we've seen all the rules revealed, it makes no sense for just this rule to be completely hidden with not even a hint.
- If the code was inserted late in development, after she was corrupted, she wouldn't really feel bad about it to add that comment.
- But most importantly, Laura is not in the department doing the codes. There was never any indication that she was good at coding, let alone being a genius that could stump Harry.