VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus S2 Ep 9-11] [Hangover Cat]

[Iexist]

so i got hero fallen ending and that shit is the most depressing NTR I have ever read.I know MC is pathetic loser but he tried to get his shit together by the end and more he tried more fucked he got.Are other endings less fucked up ? Is it worth to play the game more ?

I mean, to be fair, he got fucked mainly because Sandra was a complete and total moron who absolutely underestimated Luca and her own daughter's madness, and in part because he simply couldn't understand her and what she'd do in such a situation. He also, as always, ignored the warning signs with her, because he's a moron... Sorry. I just can't sympathize with that guy.

As for different endings...

There's one genuine good ending where the MC and Laura remain together at the end after all the bumps.

I also consider all the Aya endings good ones, at least for the MC... not so much for Laura in all but two cases. (The Clumsy Hero - Aya version is hilarious. The Alt-Good ending is also hilarious.)

The other Hero ending is... bitter but possibly satisfying, depending on perspective. Fair warning though, it's basically a cliff-hanger.

The remaining non-Aya endings, aka the Normal endings and the Abrupt ending, are all three straight up, straightforward NTR. The abrupt ending is, depending on perspective, significantly worse than the Fallen Hero ending, at least in some ways.

Don't ask me how depressing they are or not because none of them moved me in any emotional way. Even the Fallen Hero ending. (Really hot scenes in that one. Really, we should have gotten a couple of more Laura+Sandra scenes...)

 

[Dark_Rance]

I mean, to be fair, he got fucked mainly because Sandra was a complete and total moron who absolutely underestimated Luca and her own daughter's madness, and in part because he simply couldn't understand her and what she'd do in such a situation. He also, as always, ignored the warning signs with her, because he's a moron... Sorry. I just can't sympathize with that guy.

As for different endings...

There's one genuine good ending where the MC and Laura remain together at the end after all the bumps.

I also consider all the Aya endings good ones, at least for the MC... not so much for Laura in all but two cases. (The Clumsy Hero - Aya version is hilarious. The Alt-Good ending is also hilarious.)

The other Hero ending is... bitter but possibly satisfying, depending on perspective. Fair warning though, it's basically a cliff-hanger.

The remaining non-Aya endings, aka the Normal endings and the Abrupt ending, are all three straight up, straightforward NTR. The abrupt ending is, depending on perspective, significantly worse than the Fallen Hero ending, at least in some ways.

Don't ask me how depressing they are or not because none of them moved me in any emotional way. Even the Fallen Hero ending. (Really hot scenes in that one. Really, we should have gotten a couple of more Laura+Sandra scenes...)

Sandra wanted to escape with MC bc she knew that her daughter is gone but didn't tell him shit for some reason.Instead she tried to seduce him but he was still trusting her to be his last hope to get his gf back until the end.All characters just fuck you over in fallen hero thats whats depressing to me bc I cant do shit.If game actually gave me option to escape with Sandra I would.I dunno It feels like devs made characters dumb in this route just so we have million shocking plot twists.

 

[Iexist]

Sandra wanted to escape with MC bc she knew that her daughter is gone but didn't tell him shit for some reason.Instead she tried to seduce him but he was still trusting her to be his last hope to get his gf back until the end.All characters just fuck you over in fallen hero thats whats depressing to me bc I cant do shit.If game actually gave me option to escape with Sandra I would.I dunno It feels like devs made characters dumb in this route just so we have million shocking plot twists.

Odds are that Sandra was conflicted. After all, running away with Harry meant abandoning her daughter, this time for real, to Luca. Dumb as she is, she likely realized what that meant in the long run. On top of that, she's a nympho. Whatever else Luca is or isn't, he's definitely good in bed, and he did guarantee and amazing sex-life and a good, if fucked up, relationship with her daughter, something that Sandra genuinely craved.

So at that point, she was likely definitely torn. Stay with her fucked up daughter? Run away with the MC? She couldn't just make that kind of choice, not easily.

If Harry pushed then, yes, they could have run off together.

The issue is that Harry's personality wouldn't allow him to do anything of that sort. For one, he's simply never that decisive right away. For two, he hadn't known Sandra for that long. For three, he was completely deluding himself about Laura and ignoring the warning signs. His character simply wouldn't allow for such a choice to exist. By that point, he was simply already doomed.

As for communication issues. The thing is... This is a NTR VN. NTR plots literally cannot work if the participants are completely reasonable human beings with normal levels of observation skills and the ability and willingness to properly trust and communicate with each other. Luca's whole scheme would have never worked in the first place if Laura genuinely trusted Harry and talked to him from the start about what was going on the moment Luca threatened her. The blackmail is extremely dumb and extremely easy to get out of if you just stop and think, and even in the extreme case where Harry somehow, in some extremely absurd universe, ended up in prison for a year or two, they'd have still been fine afterwards and Luca would have gotten absolutely jack and shit out of it all.

That's leaving aside the massive plot hole involving the security in that building. Anyone's that's worked in any tech company knows that there's cameras in EVERY important room and especially covering the entrances and exits. There will NEVER be allowances to turn off cameras in your own office for any reason. Even if there were, you'd always, absolutely, have to provide a good reason for doing anything like that. So in any real office building, even 10 years ago, it'd be extremely obvious that Luca visited Harry, talked to him, got him to go and take something from the office. Which means he'd be just as much of a suspect as Harry, and unlike Harry, he's an outsider to the firm and a mafia kid for a known mafia front. Who do you think the police will want to fuck over in that sort of situation?

But somehow, their office building only has cameras in a couple of offices? Really? In what universe?

I dunno about other people, but for me, to enjoy NTR stories, I need to turn off my brain quite a bit. At least this one tries to make an effort to justify the character's quirks and problems due to their varied issues.

 

[Dark_Rance]

Odds are that Sandra was conflicted. After all, running away with Harry meant abandoning her daughter, this time for real, to Luca. Dumb as she is, she likely realized what that meant in the long run. On top of that, she's a nympho. Whatever else Luca is or isn't, he's definitely good in bed, and he did guarantee and amazing sex-life and a good, if fucked up, relationship with her daughter, something that Sandra genuinely craved.

So at that point, she was likely definitely torn. Stay with her fucked up daughter? Run away with the MC? She couldn't just make that kind of choice, not easily.

If Harry pushed then, yes, they could have run off together.

The issue is that Harry's personality wouldn't allow him to do anything of that sort. For one, he's simply never that decisive right away. For two, he hadn't known Sandra for that long. For three, he was completely deluding himself about Laura and ignoring the warning signs. His character simply wouldn't allow for such a choice to exist. By that point, he was simply already doomed.

As for communication issues. The thing is... This is a NTR VN. NTR plots literally cannot work if the participants are completely reasonable human beings with normal levels of observation skills and the ability and willingness to properly trust and communicate with each other. Luca's whole scheme would have never worked in the first place if Laura genuinely trusted Harry and talked to him from the start about what was going on the moment Luca threatened her. The blackmail is extremely dumb and extremely easy to get out of if you just stop and think, and even in the extreme case where Harry somehow, in some extremely absurd universe, ended up in prison for a year or two, they'd have still been fine afterwards and Luca would have gotten absolutely jack and shit out of it all.

That's leaving aside the massive plot hole involving the security in that building. Anyone's that's worked in any tech company knows that there's cameras in EVERY important room and especially covering the entrances and exits. There will NEVER be allowances to turn off cameras in your own office for any reason. Even if there were, you'd always, absolutely, have to provide a good reason for doing anything like that. So in any real office building, even 10 years ago, it'd be extremely obvious that Luca visited Harry, talked to him, got him to go and take something from the office. Which means he'd be just as much of a suspect as Harry, and unlike Harry, he's an outsider to the firm and a mafia kid for a known mafia front. Who do you think the police will want to fuck over in that sort of situation?

But somehow, their office building only has cameras in a couple of offices? Really? In what universe?

I dunno about other people, but for me, to enjoy NTR stories, I need to turn off my brain quite a bit. At least this one tries to make an effort to justify the character's quirks and problems due to their varied issues.

yeah not a lot of the story actually makes sense when I thing about it.Still I got invested somehow and thats why it pisses me off its not going the way it maybe should.Gotta try other endings then, maybe I wll start hating MC more and then enjoy bad endings more.So far best NTR i guess since it got under my skin at times.

 

[Chinel]

Luca's reaction during that scene didn't seem quite that simple and his tone, so to speak, felt to flippant, for lack of a better word. Was he actually disgusted? Or was he oddly pleased that he managed to drag Harry down to the point of becoming a manwhore like him to win Laura back? (+Aya in that other ending... but let's face it, it'd be 6 months at most before Harry and Laura both were Aya's bitches and loving it.... I seriously doubt that she didn't plan for Harry to find them with that double-ended dildo stuffed in their cunts.)

In any case, it just feels like the author REALLY didn't want to write that ending at all, which is why it feels like it just switches off very fast.

It is simple. Luca didn't achieve what he wanted and there wasn't anymore he could do to make Harry suffer, unless if he just went full murder.

In Luca's case, I don't think he has any attraction for Harry. It's just that he genuinely hates Harry. Most people don't understand what it means to really hate. To genuinely, utterly, completely hate something. It's said that hatred is the other side of the coin to love, the negative to its positive. When you hate, genuinely hate... it's not enough to destroy something. It's not enough to get it out of your life. No. You want it close. You want it near. You want to taint it, to rip it to make it suffer, to make it experience more and more horrible things. When you hate a person, genuinely hate them, killing them is not enough, hitting them directly or the like is not enough. Only true suffering will ever bring satisfaction to true hatred, and it never ends, it's never enough, it's a vicious cycle.

Because hatred is much like love. Like how when you love someone, you want to spend time with them. You want to know about them. You want them to be happy. Hatred is the opposite of that, and it's honestly impressive how well the artist managed to capture the feel of that emotion in Luca. Not just anger. Not just dislike. But genuine, irrational hatred that's rarely natural.

Most people can't feel that kind of hate, not easily at least. Whether you believe that humans have a soul that's inherently good, or whether you lean on the fact that humans are social animals and that kind of behavior and thinking is damaging to the group as a whole in the long run. The fact of the matter is that true, deep hatred is a pretty unnatural emotion, unlike love. Some might say it's normal to hate the things that hurt you or whatnot, but that's often not what happens. The fact that Luca does feel this deep hatred just showcases how insane he genuinely is.

I respectfully disagree, people say hate is close of love, but I find it far closer to disgust than anything.

Like, Nazis. They did hate jews so much that they didn't want them alive in the same world as them, if that is indifference, then I guess I must hate a lot since I just don't care about people that much.

Also because last time I saw a deep hate...the object of hate was killed by the person hating, they had such a disgust for that person's existence that they didn't care if murder would make others appaeled. They just could not afford the object of hate in the same world as them.

 

[Barely-here]

In Luca's case, I don't think he has any attraction for Harry. It's just that he genuinely hates Harry. Most people don't understand what it means to really hate. To genuinely, utterly, completely hate something. It's said that hatred is the other side of the coin to love, the negative to its positive. When you hate, genuinely hate... it's not enough to destroy something. It's not enough to get it out of your life. No. You want it close. You want it near. You want to taint it, to rip it to make it suffer, to make it experience more and more horrible things. When you hate a person, genuinely hate them, killing them is not enough, hitting them directly or the like is not enough. Only true suffering will ever bring satisfaction to true hatred, and it never ends, it's never enough, it's a vicious cycle.

To use an example he's the NTR version of Reverse-Flash wait scratch that he's the Demigah version of reverse Flash.

 

[anjingbabi69]

can someone give me save file for this game, i don't understand the context if just looking at scene replay

 

[Alvillo]

A Promise Best Left Unkept - Aya Edition V0.1.0

What's this?

 

[An Ace Among Men]

I'm trying to remember if I played this one before or just one that looks like it. Does this have a succubus character?

 

[Barely-here]

I'm trying to remember if I played this one before or just one that looks like it. Does this have a succubus character?

Nope unless you count cosplay. Normal humans here.

 

[Iexist]

A Promise Best Left Unkept - Aya Edition V0.1.0

What's this?

That's the Aya Route "DLC", or What If VN. Not sure how to call it.

Basically, it branches out from the moment where Aya pins Harry to the bed during the business trip, where, presumably, Harry gives in and just makes out with her, rather than pushing her away. This is while Laura's getting molested in the closet a few feet away from them.

Things spiral into a completely different story from there...

However...

As the author themselves seems to be aware... This route is either going to be amazing, or an absolutely horrible flop.

This is because Aya's been hyped too much in the original VN. She literally never loses when push comes to shove and she outmaneuvers Luca at absolutely every step. This means that creating a route where she falls to his dick is... uh...

EXTREMELY difficult to write in a way that doesn't completely invalidate what we see in the current VN and doesn't look contrived and completely stupid. It's an extremely high bar to jump over and it's extremely debatable if they'll be able to pull it off.

As such, I'd keep my expectations in check and wouldn't be too hyped about anything except the smut itself. They're good, but, this is not an easy hurdle to jump in for what's essentially their second project...

 

[Alvillo]

That's the Aya Route "DLC", or What If VN. Not sure how to call it.

Basically, it branches out from the moment where Aya pins Harry to the bed during the business trip, where, presumably, Harry gives in and just makes out with her, rather than pushing her away. This is while Laura's getting molested in the closet a few feet away from them.

Things spiral into a completely different story from there...

However...

As the author themselves seems to be aware... This route is either going to be amazing, or an absolutely horrible flop.

This is because Aya's been hyped too much in the original VN. She literally never loses when push comes to shove and she outmaneuvers Luca at absolutely every step. This means that creating a route where she falls to his dick is... uh...

EXTREMELY difficult to write in a way that doesn't completely invalidate what we see in the current VN and doesn't look contrived and completely stupid. It's an extremely high bar to jump over and it's extremely debatable if they'll be able to pull it off.

As such, I'd keep my expectations in check and wouldn't be too hyped about anything except the smut itself. They're good, but, this is not an easy hurdle to jump in for what's essentially their second project...

Thanks bro

 

[criestoomuch]

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EXTREMELY difficult to write in a way that doesn't completely invalidate what we see in the current VN and doesn't look contrived and completely stupid. It's an extremely high bar to jump over and it's extremely debatable if they'll be able to pull it off.

As such, I'd keep my expectations in check and wouldn't be too hyped about anything except the smut itself. They're good, but, this is not an easy hurdle to jump in for what's essentially their second project...

Haven't played through Aya's perspective for whatever reason but I think I've seen all of her endings. So I'm speculating somewhat blindly. My guess is Laura is to do a lot of heavy lifting. And it will take place over a longer period of time. Eventually making her think she can have Harry without Laura hurting him. Especially if the branch starts with Harry kissing Aya back. I can see her wanting to hurt them badly because of it.

 

[Iexist]

Haven't played through Aya's perspective for whatever reason but I think I've seen all of her endings. So I'm speculating somewhat blindly. My guess is Laura is to do a lot of heavy lifting. And it will take place over a longer period of time. Eventually making her think she can have Harry without Laura hurting him. Especially if the branch starts with Harry kissing Aya back. I can see her wanting to hurt them badly because of it.

There's the Aya Path ending and a whole other FIVE Aya variant endings, for a total of 6... which is exactly as many as the other ending types... which is insane if you think about it, if only because all of Aya's variants could be considered Good Endings for the MC. Laura, not so much in most of them. >.>"

Are you seriously saying you played through basically half of the endings with only Harry's perspective? Because, if you play through the All Perspective, you literally CANNOT avoid her perspective...

ANYway, getting back to the point...

In her path, which is the first thing you need to see before you can unlock the other 5 Aya variant endings... it's BECAUSE Laura was involved that Luca got done in. He got greedy and tried to have them both, and he ended up biting up more than he could chew when Aya used Laura to keep him distracted while she wrapped Harry around her finger and then screwed up Luca and Laura with her yakuza connections.

The fact of the matter is that the big difference between the girls, is that Laura presents herself to be strong and smart... when she's not particularly strong and her intelligence is debatable. Aya presents herself as silly and dumb... when in fact she's very smart and she's definitely strong. Both are batshit crazy btw, but the nuance of their insanity is different, and Aya's insanity comes out on top.

Most importantly, Aya knows that Luca's a Mafia kid, but HE does not know that Aya's a yakuza princess, which lets her have a hidden hand that he can't prepare for.

The dev needs to address these things without suddenly giving Aya the idiot ball, or making her seem mentally weaker than she actually is. On top of that, we have at least three endings that show that Harry CAN become good enough in bed to compete with Luca (The Good Ending and its Aya variant, and arguably, the Aya version of the Fallen Hero ending). Aya should be smart enough to figure that out and stubborn enough to want to make it happen even IF Luca fucks her until she has a strong sex addiction. She's shown to not be anywhere near as short-sighted as Laura after all.

This means that sex alone shouldn't work the way it did with Laura. (And with Laura it worked because she's too short-sighted to think that Harry could accept her as she is... all without going the extra mile of telling of him in the first place, and too short-sighted to think that he'd be willing to learn how to deal with her beyond normal nympho needs. That's on top of the fact that she's not even considering the fact that Luca will eventually throw her away like a used tissue the moment she's no longer useful in tormenting Harry and/or stops being a good enough hole to fuck...)

I'm not saying it's NOT doable.

However, I AM saying that it'll take a lot of work, a lot of thinking, and possibly more effort than the Dev might be able to put in. As someone who's done some writing of their own under certain circumstances, I can easily say that knowing what points you need to reach in your writing... and actually hitting them in a satisfactory matter is not easy. Plus... if I'm not mistaken, the dev made a comment along the lines of "I'll make her fall even if I have to completely mess up the characters." or some such... which is... uh... not encouraging.

 

[Revenant6537]

Hmmmmm, since there's a lot of close encounters there. The MC should spray a bottle of syphilis or chlamydia and the like while they're banging. Can you imagine the anarchy that would do when he continues on banging the other girls.

Anyways, good stuff, poor cucks

 

[Chinel]

Laura is so strong/smart that in three years of relationship she never understood her boyfriend, and her first reaction when that is bought up was to run away as a coward like her would instead of facing your wrongdoings, and trying to improve.

That is why I call her a coward and a weakling.

That is such an degree in fail that is laughable and pathetic. That is the sort of person Luca wants.

Pathetic begets Pathetic.

Gods, it would be fun if Harry told her that he kept praising her because she has such a fragile ego that he thought she would break apart if someone said anything that wasn't that. That is also something about her pride.

Her ego is so fragile...good God, now think about overinflated egos, general incapacity to understand your own FUCKING PARTNERS and the way you lie to yourself claiming one to be a 'weakling'...



This word becomes funny when considering the 'Good' Ending, Pot Calling Kettle Black at its best! Laura could truly join Luca on a campaign of spreading misery and chaos, then fail because she is inept at social actually and because she, like Luca, would ALSO consistently act into williful ignorance.

 

[Barely-here]

I Haven't played it yet so, now i'm wondering if Version Aya has a Luca perspective.

 

[criestoomuch]

...

Are you seriously saying you played through basically half of the endings with only Harry's perspective? Because, if you play through the All Perspective, you literally CANNOT avoid her perspective...

...

I skipped all of the updates between Laura's last solo ending and the good ending. Because, there was a part of me that thought that we wouldn't be getting the update here. As the dev already made it harder to leak it here once. So, I figured I might as well leave it somwhere I could make peace with how things turned out. Laura's family ending and Harry's full-blown cuck ending are the truest to their characters as far I interpret them. I came back because I wanted to know what the dev had in mind for a good ending. Especially because he doesn't do early exits or purity routes. Which is what I prefer in games like these. Dumb as it sounds.

As to why I played Harry only and not all perspectives. Well, I wanted to see Harry fucking her first. In all iterations and on all paths. Possibly also including her full path. So, that way if I ever get around to watching her and Luca it should hit harder. Because she's nobody to Harry until the endings. Meaning the scenes before then are between characters I don't care for. And my connection to Harry is my connection to the game.

You know there's a path or two where you see Aya or Laura's perspective when choosing Harry only. At least at the end of each path.

 

[Iexist]

I skipped all of the updates between Laura's last solo ending and the good ending. Because, there was a part of me that thought that we wouldn't be getting the update here. As the dev already made it harder to leak it here once. So, I figured I might as well leave it somwhere I could make peace with how things turned out. Laura's family ending and Harry's full-blown cuck ending are the truest to their characters as far I interpret them. I came back because I wanted to know what the dev had in mind for a good ending. Especially because he doesn't do early exits or purity routes. Which is what I prefer in games like these. Dumb as it sounds.

As to why I played Harry only and not all perspectives. Well, I wanted to see Harry fucking her first. In all iterations and on all paths. Possibly also including her full path. So, that way if I ever get around to watching her and Luca it should hit harder. Because she's nobody to Harry until the endings. Meaning the scenes before then are between characters I don't care for. And my connection to Harry is my connection to the game.

You know there's a path or two where you see Aya or Laura's perspective when choosing Harry only. At least at the end of each path.

That's... an interesting perspective...

I only played through Harry's perspective exclusively only once, because it's the thing to do for NTR VNs and all that. However, I'm here for hot smut, regardless of the permutation of characters it happens with, so after that it was full blown exposure. First playthrough was blind, and I landed straight on the basic Good Ending... which I suppose is to be expected given that to get there you need to take the choices dictated by Common Sense... a nearly non-existed super-power in the NTR genre.

I didn't play any of the updates. I only picked this up once it was complete, and it's a good thing for Hangover that they didn't block them from getting here, because if they did, they wouldn't have gotten any of my money. I don't spend money on H-games blind, especially with stuff like NTR. However, this was so well done that I definitely decided to throw some money their way for a while, to help ensure that there's more in the future.

Getting back to Harry and his perspective. I honestly don't think I could manage multiple playthroughs from his perspective. Mainly because he's such an oblivious idiot that I'd punch him, repeatedly, if he was a real person that I could meet. However, the smut MORE than makes up for it. Could've used more scenes with Laura+Sandra or Laura+Aya at the same time though. Or gangbangs. Shame there's only two of those.

I honestly don't know how the Family Ending looks from just Harry's perspective... Or any ending really aside from the Good Ending. That said, you do know that the Family Ending is actually the second worst ending for Harry in the entire game, right? Second only to the Fallen Hero ending. Some might say that the Abrupt ending is worse for him, but at least in that one, he finds out the truth and acts... even if we have no idea how far his actions will go in his moment of madness without Aya to change things. In the Family Ending, Harry suffers more and more without even realizing how much he's being screwed with, and odds are that Luca will get bored eventually and just completely ruin him in a way that's as bad, if not worse than the Fallen Hero ending.

 

[Deleted member 1329272]

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A Promise Best Left Unkept - Aya Edition V0.1.0 - Hangover (10$) Tier (5 days Exclusivity)

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Here we go again! We’re back for more A Promise Best Left Unkept… woohoo~…
If it isn't obvious already, I don't really know how to preface this. I guess by explaining what this project is about. For those who don't know, A Promise Best Left Unkept was completed last month and released on Steam this month. But it might be confusing since we're back with more of it this month instead of a completely new project. That's because last month was only the completion of Laura's route. Now we're doing the same game, but with Aya as our main heroine. What that means is that, at a certain point early in the game, Harry will be doing something different than what he did in the original version, and this will lead to a drastically different outcome.
For the specifications: the update adds 15.5k~ words of new content, with 2 new sex scenes and 5 new CG sets. The entire beginning of the game (probably 50k words) is still there, for those who haven't played the original game, or simply want to re-read it.
For those who don't want to read it again though, and don't want to skip through it, there's now an option in the extra section of the game to jump to specific versions of the game. Since it's the first version, you can only jump to V0.1.0, but when V0.2.0 comes out, you will be able to jump to the new content from that menu directly.

Another change is the Scene Replay menu. Now you can choose Harry in the menu. Meaning that every scene involving Harry will be found under him. Also, if there are any memorable moments where Harry witnesses scenes indirectly or partially (mystery perspective), those might be found under him as well.

As mentioned previously, this update starts things slow. In fact, Aya's route in and of itself is slow. I have mixed feelings about lots and lots of things. Her route will either be a huge failure or a great success. Just… expect it to be a fairly long ride.

Once again, if there are quality-of-life changes that you want to see in the game, you can still bring them to my attention. I want to create a quality product, but since it's essentially the 'same' game, a lot of things are the same.

I do plan to add a few custom music that I commissioned over the past months. There are no new music pieces in this particular update, but expect a few in the next one.

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Changelog V0.1.0

Menu

• Added a Jump To Version feature
• Changed the Replay Menu to incorporate Harry's perspective

Story

• Added 5 CG sets
• Added 2 sex scene
• Added 15.5k words to the story