Let me back you up, you think like me at some point, i don't like the netorare, like dasan route or thomas route, but i like to lose to the orcs/goblins/bandits, or send the girls to the orcs, tho i don't like much the bandit camp and rumah events that enable the man to fuck your girls, sadly we didn't get anymore content in this aspect recently, i loved the whole ntr progress of the girls at the start hating to lose the fights, but then starting to enjoy it, but don't like pure ntr routes like i said