PoEbalu

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I think you're making a mistake m8.

You've just made a demo, got a good chunk of support and hype, no need to throw away that momentum because of a hypothetical limit that you might never even reach
yes,i agree ! lets put everythin on a chance ! and when the shit hit the fan...welp ?shit happens,right ?

you CAN break up your game in parts,and make save transfer/import function. it had been done in the past in ACE,dunno about MV,but my guess there are script system made for that,idk.
the only problem,you can only remove map events and maps(not common events),you cannot delete/change database(items,characters,assets,variables) i.e. persistent stuff,becuase game fetching ids,for example: ID 1 - Suck dick,then you suck dick,get variable. in part 2 you delete it/change to "Kiss" when importing it will have Variable ID1 "1",so it will treat it as "kiss 1" rather than "suck dick 1"
also you must leave importing area in the game untouched.
 
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- Now I will talk about this game. It's been very long time to find a developer who dare to make a demo without showing tits and sex scene. You my friend, @Lust&Passion, one of a rare breed, with good meaning. I like it, the story is good. This what I have looking for, a motive behind incest story, not suddenly Mom fucking Son with no damn reason, or just simply "My Son had big Cock, I want to ride him". I hate this kind.

- Please, just please stop argument with your fans and users, as you don't have obligation to reply them. Read them, eat the sweet & shit altogether, that is the developer fate. You must not criticize user's critics, whether it's a simply rants or a serious one.

- Your only reply is only when there's technical issue, and another one when request advice or polling. Other than that, don't make contact with users & players. This is your games, don't be controlled by your users, also don't control your user to like your game. Let the product speak for itself.

- For personal note, sadly I can't become a fan to this game due to RPGM. Visual Novel in RPGM, I always skip it, I don't care even Peter Jackson who make it, I hate 1000% VN-RPGM. So good luck with your games, AND STAY TRUE !!!
 

PoEbalu

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- Please, just please stop argument with your fans and users, as you don't have obligation to reply them. Read them, eat the sweet & shit altogether, that is the developer fate. You must not criticize user's critics, whether it's a simply rants or a serious one.
You must not criticize user's critics
this.
also,don't rant about other project and patreon,you just making jealous cry baby out of yourself. even if that's not your intent,it's how it looks.
 

DarkMask

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@Lust&Passion Let see if I can help clear up a few things relating to RPG Maker.

- Since you'd only need to transfer the relation points you could, at the end of Episode 1 use a script to output that info. Then in Epsiode 2 you would use another script to import that info. Development wise nothing would change for you as your events would still be setup the same way. I'm not sure if someone has created a JavaScript plugin yet but you can always request it and even commission it.

- Each map can have up to 999 events on it. If you're getting close to this number there are some tricks you can do. You can make a duplicate of the map that covers half of the events that the player is "teleported" to when they access it or you can break out rooms into their own map.

- There is no physical limit on the amount of images you can have in a project, the only limit is having 100 images shown at once.

- The database has a limit of 2000 items which you're not using so you should be fine.
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dev, dont be so eager about money. you made a pretty good game, one ot the best in a long time actually and you will get all support you need, but only if you keep working on game. look at all this posts - your game is awesome! but all this "im thinking about it, but not sure", "maybe i'll never update it" and so on, just scare away possible patrons.
 
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It's not true that the bodies look all 100-60-100! All of the main characters I've edited very long manually! Sophia has IMO the perfect female body! Patricia has a similar butt but smaller breasts. Ellie has the perfect teenager body! Claire is a little more chubbier and her daughter Marie is thin with a beautiful model physique. The neighbours wife is also a little chubbier than Sophia and has smaller breasts! The faces are all different cause these are all completely different models! Even my secondary characters and background characters are all different models with different faces and physique!
Well, I appreciate the hard work in the game, as I said before (for example, I like a lot the design of the hairdresser), but I´m not talking about small differences, like a slightly small breast of bigger butts. I think that there could be great if, in a game, there would be different kind of realistic bodies: curvy, slim, fatty... There is beauty and kinky in all the different types of female bodies, not only in "hollywood type" or "porn type" bodies... And even in porn, you can find all kind, from "petite" to "BBW", from "barely legal" to "granny".
 
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In terms of engine, you can hypothetically use Unity and create the same thing you have now with every merit of Renpy and with every RPGM element you have now. Tho I'm not sure how complicated that would be
 
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PoEbalu

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@Lust&Passion Let see if I can help clear up a few things relating to RPG Maker.
that's nice and all,but can you guarantee,that executable won't collapse under the weight of the game ? or you suggesting us to play purely in editor ?

In terms of engine, you can hypothetically use Unity and create the same thing you have now with every merit of Renpy and with every RPGM element you have now. Tho I'm not sure how complicated that would be
you apparently wasn't reading. please do.
 

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@PoEbalu can you elaborate a bit more?

All the ideas I suggested are things that can be done in the editor to help improve the play performance, users would not have to do anything different.

There have been many full fledged RPG's made with RPG Maker over the years with robust systems, combat, tons of dialogue..etc and they all work fine.

Have there been games in the past that suffered because they were made with RPG Maker?
 

PoEbalu

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Have there been games in the past that suffered because they were made with RPG Maker?
yes,Roundscape one of them,also some dlsite games among them.
they were made on rpg ace tho. mv only increase limits and possibilities.Roundscape on MV still lags.
read my posts,read authors ambitions. i don't want to repear myself over and over like a parrot.
10K images,1K = 2gb~ can RPGM deal with it ??? my intuition and expiriance with MV tells me,that there no memory flush system(or just poorly made) so it will bloat until it reach critical point where game or just player system wont able to handle it.

also,editor itself will lag to the point,where it will be 70% waiting time.
just find next biggest and fattest game on MV and try to edit it,then do the same with medium or light one,you will notice very big difference in performance. it probably wont be same on every system,but on most it wont be good.

it's either new engine or break it in to parts.
 
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The husband... I can't trust him.
I'm already preparing Sophia for the betrayal :FeelsBadMan:
i know right? =) game is good. i would love to see more. i'll support if the project can move with a sufficient update or two. i also like how the "good" path is actually a "good wife" path. would love to see if that takes her on the route of doing stuff at her husband's request, like becoming a model at his work, dressing more the way he wants, get her involved in the dramas/situations/relationships/etc at his work, favors for his boss, who knows. a nice change on the usual boring good path bad path stuff
 

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is anyone getting crashes/freezes.suddently at random times dialogue cant continue and im stuck.happens even after the intro
 

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Lovely, I appreciate your input as well.
I'll get right on specific examples after you linked those "thousands of RPG Maker hentai games that are far bigger than anything i've ever seen a Western Developer produce".



I genuinely don't know how long it would take.
However, when I'm looking at the amount of content (and the file size) of his 0.01 version I don't doubt that he's really planning for 10k pics and not just throwing around a number cause it sounds impressive.
In that case it might be a prudent idea to think about a change of platforms early, rather than wait till he has no choice but to switch or split it into multiple games.

Sure.



A huge portion of the games on here will be bigger than this 0.01 version. Now why don't you just get me 1(ONE), example of what you claimed?
 

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@PoEbalu I read a bit of that thread and it seems like that game was being developed on an earlier version of RMMV. They do release bug fixes and usually lag issues take priority and are addressed. Though it does seem the dev team for that game released an update that fixed the lag issues in that game and a quick search showed no mention of recent lag issues.

If @Lust&Passion is using the latest version, it should be ok.
 

PoEbalu

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"should be" do you have benchmark/tests with rpgmv games above 10K images and above 10gb ? i doubt it did well.
he either do it now or never. anyone suggest "do it on RPG MV then switch",unless you will volunteer to do it for free i suggest to just stop talking. it isnt copy paste.

making it in parts is still an option,but the game must be built with this in mind.
 
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This game has great potential, but there is a lot of text and few actions for the person to choose. I particularly do not like game like that. If I wanted to read, I would buy a book. Add more choices please!

-text
+choices
 
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PoEbalu

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This game has great potential, but there is a lot of text and few actions for the person to choose. I particularly do not like game like that. If I wanted to read, I would buy a book. Add more choices please!

-text
+choices
this game is about choice and where it leads,it's not hack and slash.
plus it's intro i.e. introduction obviously it will have a lot of text to tell you all the context you'll need.
some of the scenes didnt had much text at all,only main ones.
 
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