VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Alley Cat,

I use the walkthrough provided by L&P.

I've ended up with a variety of saves (Dylan yes/no boarding school; Sophia 1st/2nd side job; Sophia with Ellie and Julia at the pool + yoga/Alyssa; I will eventually do the good wife route).

I never saw the need for a separate Dylan/Sam walkthrough but others may want only that.

Thanks for your response. And for not dismissing my question just because "I don't like Dylan". Is there a canon Dylan route?

So now we just need someone who plays the Sam route to speak up.

Nice... let's take something from Day 1 and show 0 growth of Dylan as a character.

There are associated Ellie pictures from the car ride to the Parkers' new house that, taken out of context, could be used to say that Ellie is immature.

Instead, since she is the older child, you would think that she is more mature.

Here is Ellie showing that 'maturity' in the render just before Dylan's response above' - which - shocking - prompted a response from her younger brother.

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So, maybe siblings fight and both can and do act in an immature fashion.

Frankly - where I come from, the oldest child, especially someone who is 6 months away from college, is expected to show maturity and not start fights - but that is just me I suppose...

I'd forgotten about "garden gnome". Cheers, I'll add that to the list.

BaDIK thread.

But what do you think? Is this a possible hint that Dylan will be her first for those going down that route? Or will Sophia pop her daughter's cherry with a strap-on?

I like both, but would prefer it to be her brother (even if I still think he's a stupid little shit with a dumbass "plan"). If L&P can perhaps make Dylan a bit less of a horny idiot, it would be nice to see him be the kind of guy that Ellie wants but hasn't had.

Considering Ellie is too afraid to use her dildo, what makes you think her first time will be with a dick, real or not?

 

[Old Dog]

Thanks for your response. And for not dismissing my question just because "I don't like Dylan". Is there a canon Dylan route?

So now we just need someone who plays the Sam route to speak up.

I'd forgotten about "garden gnome". Cheers, I'll add that to the list.

Considering Ellie is too afraid to use her dildo, what makes you think her first time will be with a dick, real or not?

The "garden gnome" I like that one

 

[Kodek]

Nice... let's take something from Day 1 and show 0 growth of Dylan as a character.

There are associated Ellie pictures from the car ride to the Parkers' new house that, taken out of context, could be used to say that Ellie is immature.

Instead, since she is the older child, you would think that she is more mature.

Here is Ellie showing that 'maturity' in the render just before Dylan's response above' - which - shocking - prompted a response from her younger brother.

View attachment 973984

So, maybe siblings fight and both can and do act in an immature fashion.

Frankly - where I come from, the oldest child, especially someone who is 6 months away from college, is expected to show maturity and not start fights - but that is just me I suppose...

From where i come, they wouldn't really dislike each other and would mostly taunt themselves out of fun or just ignore each other most of the time.

It would feel better seeing the interactions above, it feels more realistic than both Ellie and Dylan overreacting over some silly nickname.

 

[Mamonetti]

I also believe that Ellie will lose her virginity with either Sophia (using a dildo.. a strap-on looks too much for two newcomers in the lesbian world) or Dylan (if the event when he fixed her computer was really the beginning of the path that will take them to the double incest we mentioned a few days ago, and it would require an active/leading role of Sophia there).

 

[Alley_Cat]

From where i come, they wouldn't really dislike each other and would mostly taunt themselves out of fun or just ignore each other most of the time.

It would feel better seeing the interactions above, it feels more realistic than both Ellie and Dylan overreacting over some silly nickname.

Only if they were just teasing each other. But if that were the case, then it doesn't explain why in some cases still, Ellie shows her dislike for Dylan when talking to Sophia. While it's only for the boarding school route, in the last update Ellie specifically comments on how she's enjoying the peace and quiet with Dylan not being around.

That's why I still believe that the bonus storyline isn't about setting Dylan up with Ellie, but explaining what he did that was so abhorrent for her to dislike him so much. And that her going to him to fix her computer is just to show that by showing a little skin, how desperate he is and how easily someone can manipulate him.

 

[Kodek]

BaDIK thread.

But what do you think? Is this a possible hint that Dylan will be her first for those going down that route? Or will Sophia pop her daughter's cherry with a strap-on?

I like both, but would prefer it to be her brother (even if I still think he's a stupid little shit with a dumbass "plan"). If L&P can perhaps make Dylan a bit less of a horny idiot, it would be nice to see him be the kind of guy that Ellie wants but hasn't had.

The BaDIK thread is as scary as ever. Too many theories all together and most make sense.

Also, i think that in the next Ellie/Dylan event we are probably going to see where it's going, maybe we are going to have options between friendship and romance (I hope).

But i still don't know how that event fit in the game since is some kind of side story yet and should not have too big of an impact on the main story (i don't know L&P comments on that, if someone knows, please kindly tell me~).
If it's indeed not intended to have a big impact, then i think Ellie's vcard is still safe. If it's made to be more impactful, then yes, it's possible to see Dylan getting there and if he matures a little bit in the middle of the event all the better.

And yes, if L&P painted Dylan as he did in the bikini show or the bed breakfast, he would be so much better as a character and even side MC.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I agree with you and also remember that the Logan/Ellie line will split into 3 and somehow Sophia is involved so perhaps Logan does pressure Ellie into having sex or Ellie lets slip that she is a virgin and Logan tells everybody.
A lobotomy would probably help the brother to be not so crude or too clumsy in his approach or a baseball ball to the head may knock some sense into him,as 90%of the time he has not got a clue stumbles blindly a round.

For people who aren't on the Ellie/incest/lesbian path (a.ka. the boring Good Wife path), then she probably will lose her virginity to Logan since I guess Sophia isn't doing much to discourage it and Ellie hasn't gone down the lesbian path with Julia and also isn't having her "reconnecting" side story with Dylan. But for those on the Ellie/lesbian/incest path with the Dylan side story, I think that either Logan's pressure will be too much for her and she'll break things off with him or he'll prove himself to not be right for her by either blabbing about her virginity or not being kind to her about it causing them to break up.

Yes, Dylan is an idiot and it's probably too much to hope that he turns it all around in a few short in-game days such that he shows a level of maturity and caring for his sister that makes her want to jump his bones, but I think that line will be significant and I'd like to hope it refers to Dylan.

I also believe that Ellie will lose her virginity with either Sophia (using a dildo.. a strap-on looks too much for two newcomers in the lesbian world) or Dylan (if the event when he fixed her computer was really the beginning of the path that will take them to the double incest we mentioned a few days ago, and it would require an active/leading role of Sophia there).

Whilst I'm sure it would meet the specifications of "something special and with the right one" if she did it with Sophia first, I'd really like to see it be with Dylan. Seeing the evolution of their relationship from antagonistic to lovingly sexual would be great and I think it's more powerful than her and Sophia doing it for Ellie's first time. It would be a good way to end this side story too (which I believe is supposed to have about 8 events and so far we've had 1) and I don't think Sophia needs to play any active role in it either as it could be even better if she were to see them but not stop them because by that point she's done a lot more with each of them and is maybe even somewhat pleased to see them doing it.

 

[Kodek]

Only if they were just teasing each other. But if that were the case, then it doesn't explain why in some cases still, Ellie shows her dislike for Dylan when talking to Sophia. While it's only for the boarding school route, in the last update Ellie specifically comments on how she's enjoying the peace and quiet with Dylan not being around.

That's why I still believe that the bonus storyline isn't about setting Dylan up with Ellie, but explaining what he did that was so abhorrent for her to dislike him so much. And that her going to him to fix her computer is just to show that by showing a little skin, how desperate he is and how easily someone can manipulate him.

Yeah, i feel the same everytime i see Ellie and Dylan interacting. There's too much bad feeling involved to be simply dislike without motivation.

But i still would prefer if they just kind of... ignored each others existence instead of this dislikeness or had some fun banter now and then.

 

[Hlextor]

And that her going to him to fix her computer is just to show that by showing a little skin, how desperate he is and how easily someone can manipulate him.

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

 

[Kodek]

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

It's both Dylan acting smart instead of horny once in a while and getting closer to his sister and Ellie using her body to tease him and get what she wanted. Either that or Ellie is portrayed totally different from the rest of the game.

I really don't see any of this crap you said.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

 

[Old Dog]

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

Nope you are spot on Alley_Cat

 

[Hlextor]

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

Say!? What kind of nerd are you? You're supposed to look at the pictures and not the codes? Or do you jerk off to your codes?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The BaDIK thread is as scary as ever. Too many theories all together and most make sense.

Also, i think that in the next Ellie/Dylan event we are probably going to see where it's going, maybe we are going to have options between friendship and romance (I hope).

But i still don't know how that event fit in the game since is some kind of side story yet and should not have too big of an impact on the main story (i don't know L&P comments on that, if someone knows, please kindly tell me~).
If it's indeed not intended to have a big impact, then i think Ellie's vcard is still safe. If it's made to be more impactful, then yes, it's possible to see Dylan getting there.

And yes, if L&P painted Dylan as he did in the bikini show or the bed breakfast, he would be so much better as a character and even side MC.

This is just my own guess, I don't know if this is the reason for it, but I get the feeling it is a side event to show Dylan and Ellie getting closer. It triggers when Ellie sees Dylan naked on Day 4 if Sophia forgets to lock the bathroom door and then pranks him with the viagra laced burger, so they're set on this path to put aside their differences and be better siblings to one another which I think could easily lead to more intimate, sexual developments given the right circumstances and situations and that this is the point, or at least players will be able to choose if it goes that far.

So I think there's plenty of reason to assume/hope that the Dylan/Ellie side event may lead to this, especially given the events that trigger it, the key will be Dylan not being an idiot which does seem like a high bar to clear.

 

[Old Dog]

This is just my own guess, I don't know if this is the reason for it, but I get the feeling it is a side event to show Dylan and Ellie getting closer. It triggers when Ellie sees Dylan naked on Day 4 if Sophia forgets to lock the bathroom door and then pranks him with the viagra laced burger, so they're set on this path to put aside their differences and be better siblings to one another which I think could easily lead to more intimate, sexual developments given the right circumstances and situations and that this is the point, or at least players will be able to choose if it goes that far.

So I think there's plenty of reason to assume/hope that the Dylan/Ellie side event may lead to this, especially given the events that trigger it, the key will be Dylan not being an idiot which does seem like a high bar to clear.

Sorry Holy Bacchus but I do have some problems with your theory.
You are correct on the Day 4 event and how this could/will bring them to be better siblings to each other but sex with the pygmy I don't see it,and it is not because I think he is an idiot,but I just don't see Ellie/Dylan getting it on.

 

[nexer]

Can't believe it. Are they drooling? Go Tiger

 

[Old Dog]

Can't believe it. Are they drooling? Go Tiger
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Sophia watching her son kinky

 

[nexer]

Patricia will eat something sooner or later

 

[Old Dog]

Patricia will eat something sooner or later
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The horse riding event will be her chance with Sophia

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sorry Holy Bacchus but I do have some problems with your theory.
You are correct on the Day 4 event and how this could/will bring them to be better siblings to each other but sex with the pygmy I don't see it,and it is not because I think he is an idiot,but I just don't see Ellie/Dylan getting it on.

If anything, Ellie seeing Dylan naked is more likely to scare her away, seeing as her dildo is gathering dust because of its size.