VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

It does look like it. I mean I'm reading posts here of people talking about events that will only happen if L&P is still developing this in 2024/2025 which is highly unlikely.

Having played the whole thing a few days ago, there's too many branches, too many.

Regarding Sam's concert event, it's pretty clear he's going to develop a lot of environments, he should just hire someone to get those done and then he would tweak them when the time comes. Is he going to do it? Of course not.

The dev is too stubborn to change and he has set his game on an insanely high standard for one person to handle and it was very naive of him to think that he could manage it alone.
He is stubborn and his ego stops him from admitting that this project is way too big for a single person to handle.
His stubbornness and ego will not let him abandon this game anytime soon.
Maybe he will wake up tomorrow and have an epiphany.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Does anyone know if any of the awesome fan artists have done any scenes of Liam getting NTR’ed? That would be so fuckin hot

 

[Old Dog]

Does anyone know if any of the awesome fan artists have done any scenes of Liam getting NTR’ed? That would be so fuckin hot

Yes there is

 

[nexer]

The reason I hate Liam the Cuck is cause he’s the minute man. Only cares about his needs. When you have a goddess like Sophia, you have to make her cum, he doesn’t care about her needs.
I would love to see Sophia NTR him with Larry, telling him the Cuck Liam to take notes how Larry is pleasing her & how Larry can give her multiple orgasms before her facial

Houston we have a problem Liam already needs the little blue pill.
But you're right, he can use his fingers and tongue

 

[Old Dog]

Houston we have a problem Liam already needs the little blue pill.
But you're right, he can use his fingers and tongue

Liam only cares about himsef! And what do you think Sophia is doing right now?Exactly the same thing.
Sophia can have an orgasm when Liam gives her oral but she is always way too impatient telling Liam to fuck her without giving him any(or very little) foreplay.

 

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The dev is too stubborn to change and he has set his game on an insanely high standard for one person to handle and it was very naive of him to think that he could manage it alone.
He is stubborn and his ego stops him from admitting that this project is way too big for a single person to handle.
His stubbornness and ego will not let him abandon this game anytime soon.
Maybe he will wake up tomorrow and have an epiphany.

I agree 100%. Except with the last part. Unfortunately I doubt he'll ever have that so needed epiphany.

 

[Old Dog]

Wait, is that you OD ? Glad to see you come to reality with this VN and L&P.

Yes its me.
I have criticized the dev before now,where it is due,but all this talk of milking and other nonsense is just a pile of crap.
While I don't agree with your view entirely , you do make some valid points so I am happy to agree with you.
I did think that everybody knew that I am O.D incognito

 

[hzjujk]

I wish that my own kinks were given similar respect. I play games for the escapism, not for moral rectitude, or for guidance on what I should like or dislike. I like blackmail in games of this type, even if it's the half-hearted variety which AWAM purveys. Now, in RL I've never blackmailed anyone & wouldn't dream of doing so, even if I had the opportunity. This is fiction folks. No 3D renders were, or will be, harmed in the making of this game. No pixel people will actually suffer because they're 'actors.' There are so many ways to avoid blackmail that I wish the incest could be dodged as effectively, while still retaining the makings of a worthwhile game.

It's fiction, of course, but most of the people here wouldn't play a game starring a serial rapist.
So if I have a stomachache with blackmail then just because I can't ignore how the woman would feel.
That's one reason. The other reason is that as the blackmail stories are written in most games,
they run again in a parallel universe to the virtual game world. They remain without consequences for
the blackmailer and the blackmailed (provided it concerns their previous social status).
Because that's exactly what we as players don't want to deal with the consequences of blackmail.
We want the side door.
Most blackmail stories amount to a breach of will. This is simply reinterpreted here as "she enjoys it".
It just messes up the story for me when the developer makes it so easy for himself. Even in a fictional story,
an emotional logic must follow. And that doesn't mean I put Sophia in underwear in front of the school class
and then call it erotic.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

The reason I hate Liam the Cuck is cause he’s the minute man. Only cares about his needs. When you have a goddess like Sophia, you have to make her cum, he doesn’t care about her needs.
I would love to see Sophia NTR him with Larry, telling him the Cuck Liam to take notes how Larry is pleasing her & how Larry can give her multiple orgasms before her facial

Anyone who has been in long-term relationships (marriage or dating) knows that they take work. Breakdowns in the relationship are rarely the fault of just one person. It is very easy to get into a routine when you're in a long-term relationship, and it can be hard to see if it's not working. That's when you need strong lines of communication so that you can tell your partner what you need. While we all like to pretend that we always give every sexual encounter 110% effort, all of us are liars if we say that. Liam should be more intuitive of Sophia's needs, but if he's not picking up on signals she needs to communicate to him what she needs. Her inability or unwillingness to engage in this conversation is a character flaw, and it is no better or worse than Liam's efforts in bed. From what we have seen he isn't unwilling to do the things that she wants, she's literally not telling him the things that she wants.

The fixation some people have with Liam, and cucking and humiliating him, is weird to me. There was so much hate for the guy, even before the casino, that I can't help but look with a little bit of side eye when I hear people talk about wanting to see him humiliated or commit suicide. It's equally weird when we elevate Sophia into a "goddess" like she is purely good and sympathetic in all things. If you have Sophia on the filthy route, you need to accept that what she's doing is outside the bounds of her marriage and would be considered "immoral" by just about anyone.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Having played the whole thing a few days ago, there's too many branches, too many.

This especially, plus the inefficient dialogue are the biggest problems with the development time.

L&P could benefit greatly by hiring a script doctor to edit down the dialogue and internal monologue in each scene before developing the storyboards and setting up his scenes in DAZ.

I'd give it a try for free but I don't know German so I wouldn't be able to do anything until after translation, which is too late according to his workflow.

 

[nexer]

Not only that. Desire waxes or wanes over a lifetime. You can't know that when you get married at 19.
For Liam that may be enough, not for Sophia. Even after one fuck Sophia isn't completely satisfied and the comments came from her.
So it's a visible block and after the prison visit scene I don't think Liam would suffer much to see Sophia with another man.

 

[Old Dog]

Not only that. Desire waxes or wanes over a lifetime. You can't know that when you get married at 19.
For Liam that may be enough, not for Sophia. Even after one fuck Sophia isn't completely satisfied and the comments came from her.
So it's a visible block and after the prison visit scene I don't think Liam would suffer much to see Sophia with another man.

Liam would suffer to see Sophia with another man,even if he tried to deny it to himself.
Before the prison visit Liam wanted Sophia to dress in a way that made her sexy but also unavailable and for people to know that they can look but no touching is allowed.
Liam has also said that he is not the jealous type, well I think further down the line we will find out that he is.

 

[Qixoni]

THe game is beautiful, Sophia is stunning, but as times goes by the phantom of an Abandoned tag closes in every day, due to the huge delays in updates.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

THe game is beautiful, Sophia is stunning, but as times goes by the phantom of an Abandoned tag closes in every day, due to the huge delays in updates.

We're nowhere close to Abandoned yet, he's still within his very slow development period.

 

[Lust&Pateron]

THe game is beautiful, Sophia is stunning, but as times goes by the phantom of an Abandoned tag closes in every day, due to the huge delays in updates.

It's not abandoned if content is being made. But, the release duration is a joke.

 

[Qixoni]

It's not abandoned if content is being made. But, the release duration is a joke.

I know it´s not abandoned, what i´m saying is that i´m frightened such a thing happens

 

[Deleted member 2914737]

Just for information, so that you can better understand me, I only play two computer games WOT and AWAM. And of course, I do this in order to distract myself from reality. WOT likes the fact that it is an online gam.

AWAM, this is of course a completely different emotion. Depending on the mood, plot and other factors, all the story lines in this game are interesting, but more interesting is Sofia's relationship with teenage boys, this is in the first place. I remember myself as a young man, my fantasies and desires, and to some extent I experience these emotions again.

If it was up to me who Sophia would have sex with in the game, I'd rule out Mr. Bennet, Carl, Deshawn.

Girls and ladies are all interesting except for Emma.

In descending order, Sofia's sex with Sam, Zach, Dylan. Some erotic adventures of Sofia with a group of boys from her son's football team. Group, with Aiden's friends. Aiden is the latest!

This is just a game and I want something far from what you encounter every day in real life.

For example, so that Sophia pampered Mr. Murray, fucked him, and Dylan had the opportunity to watch how this would happen.

Liam is generally not a bad guy, and I would prefer that Sofia not have sex with men who are rivals to Liam. I'm more interested in the swing theme, Liam, Sofia and the newlyweds. Another interesting threesome, Liam, Sofia.and Liam's boss.

I will single out Patricia, a very interesting character. I would be happy to see a trio of Patricia, Sofia and Dylan. I would also like to see the pranks of Patricia and Sofia in different circumstances, both with girls and with museum boys, where there is no sex, but a lot of eroticism and excitement.

Lol,umm yeah Im pretty sure I want Dylan and Sofia anal sex

 

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This especially, plus the inefficient dialogue are the biggest problems with the development time.

L&P could benefit greatly by hiring a script doctor to edit down the dialogue and internal monologue in each scene before developing the storyboards and setting up his scenes in DAZ.

I'd give it a try for free but I don't know German so I wouldn't be able to do anything until after translation, which is too late according to his workflow.

Yeah the internal monologue kinda irks me a bit. Dev should trim it .

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

Looking at the game from the beggining without CTRL'ing its quite visible that there are a lot of renders and dialogue that could be trimed to make space for other actions and events.

However I think the bottleneck for L&P is in environment creation stage. The amount of new and rich environments is welcomed but not if the dev needs to make new environments in every version.
If he had someone to create environments for him, he could just tweak them in the end and then pose pose pose. Would probably trim down his development time to 2/3's of the current dev time.

I dont know how I can look at this development process and see several bottlenecks that are solvable with "minimum" effort + perks that would make this VN a game at the level of the top 5 games on this website and he just can't see that after 3 years of slowly developing this VN.

 

[Why are you gae?]

Looking at the game from the beggining without CTRL'ing its quite visible that there are a lot of renders and dialogue that could be trimed to make space for other actions and events.

However I think the bottleneck for L&P is in environment creation stage. The amount of new and rich environments is welcomed but not if the dev needs to make new environments in every version.
If he had someone to create environments for him, he could just tweak them in the end and then pose pose pose. Would probably trim down his development time to 2/3's of the current dev time.

I dont know how I can look at this development process and see several bottlenecks that are solvable with "minimum" effort + perks that would make this VN a game at the level of the top 5 games on this website and he just can't see that after 3 years of slowly developing this VN.

I think there is more to AWAM than we all think. It takes time because his work means quality. And quality wants money. Lots of money. In order to improve the quality of this VN, more money is needed. I take it as a hint, the slow update cycles, to throw more money at him. Thus, I spend more money now. Each new month I will donate more money. I am sure blue balls aren't worth that but I also like the tags "male domination" and "humiliation" so maybe I am just in a very toxic relationship with this game.