armion82

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I think there is more to AWAM than we all think. It takes time because his work means quality. And quality wants money. Lots of money. In order to improve the quality of this VN, more money is needed. I take it as a hint, the slow update cycles, to throw more money at him. Thus, I spend more money now. Each new month I will donate more money. I am sure blue balls aren't worth that but I also like the tags "male domination" and "humiliation" so maybe I am just in a very toxic relationship with this game.
Money won't help much.Actually more money usually means the updates will need much more time.
It is simple-when you have more money you have an access to much more and better programs and computers.
And you want to make better looking game and you are constantly adding more and more renders to one scene and suddenly instead of 100 renders and 1000 words you end with 500 renders and 10 000 words.
 
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Money won't help much.Actually more money usually means the updates will need much more time.
It is simple-when you have more money you have an access to much more and better programs and computers.
And you want to make better looking game and you are constantly adding more and more renders to one scene and suddenly instead of 100 renders and 1000 words you end with 500 renders and 10 000 words.
Imagine a scene where she is teaching the class. A full six hours just witnessing her teach quantum physics. I'd love that!
 
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I think there is more to AWAM than we all think. It takes time because his work means quality. And quality wants money. Lots of money. In order to improve the quality of this VN, more money is needed. I take it as a hint, the slow update cycles, to throw more money at him. Thus, I spend more money now. Each new month I will donate more money. I am sure blue balls aren't worth that but I also like the tags "male domination" and "humiliation" so maybe I am just in a very toxic relationship with this game.
More money is encouraging the way he's developing which is absolutely subpar so it's an absolute NOPE for me. Once I agree with the development cycle I'll go back as a patron. The only way I would help this development financially would be directly financing a dev to show his stubborn ass that the more qualified help he gets the more money he is going to make and the faster he's going to develop.

If his renders weren't good and/or mc didnt look good this game would have like 10 patreons.
 
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More money is encouraging the way he's developing which is absolutely subpar.

If his renders weren't good and/or mc didnt look good this game would have like 10 patreons.
The story of this game is on the same level of "Inception" or "Shutter Island". It's awesome, truly a god given right to witness this blueballing masterpiece.
 
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Poser_Voyeur

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Liam only cares about himsef! And what do you think Sophia is doing right now?Exactly the same thing.
Sophia can have an orgasm when Liam gives her oral but she is always way too impatient telling Liam to fuck her without giving him any(or very little) foreplay.
Well you could argue that if Sophia gave Liam any foreplay, he would get all excited and finish EVEN quicker!
He could be the two minute Liam rather than four minute Liam!!
 
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Even though I’m not a fan of Dylan, I don’t want him to get NTR with Sophia. In fact I think Dylan & Sam should be out there just trying to get laid by anyone, just so they can lose their Vcard. Sex scenes need to happen in this game even if there not with Sophia yet. He could easily show a few renders of Dylan with a prostitue or him fantasizing about one of his classmates, same goes for Elle too, there sex scenes or fantasy scenes should be happening now.
 
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Even though I’m not a fan of Dylan, I don’t want him to get NTR with Sophia. In fact I think Dylan & Sam should be out there just trying to get laid by anyone, just so they can lose their Vcard. Sex scenes need to happen in this game even if there not with Sophia yet. He could easily show a few renders of Dylan with a prostitue or him fantasizing about one of his classmates, same goes for Elle too, there sex scenes or fantasy scenes should be happening now.
Yeah.Where are the renders dev.Yeah, facts!!
 

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Completely agree with you. This especially more irritating because there are developers who have a fixed schedule for updates, be it monthly or quarterly and they literally apologize if there is even a single day's delay. That sense of professionalism what needs to be brought into this game
The time it takes for the update is important. But for me personally, the result is more important, what exactly we get and while L&P is at its best in this parameter.

But as soon as the updates begin to come out within 2.5 - 3 months, I will start supporting him financially. So yes, time is important and I think that if he speeds up, he will start swimming in money.
 
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Even though I’m not a fan of Dylan, I don’t want him to get NTR with Sophia. In fact I think Dylan & Sam should be out there just trying to get laid by anyone, just so they can lose their Vcard. Sex scenes need to happen in this game even if there not with Sophia yet. He could easily show a few renders of Dylan with a prostitue or him fantasizing about one of his classmates, same goes for Elle too, there sex scenes or fantasy scenes should be happening now.
you are right there dalzhny hut would be a life of some kind of sex, otherwise it’s already becoming a little boring .. and I hope that Dylan wakes up fantasizing about Sophia than about others and he wakes up the first who fucks her than this after her husband .. but what does NTR mean ??
 

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Looking at the game from the beggining without CTRL'ing its quite visible that there are a lot of renders and dialogue that could be trimed to make space for other actions and events.
When I read such statements, I feel sad.

The fact is that I also have similar feelings. But I understand that out of a huge number of users, there will be those for whom this content does not seem superfluous and not interesting.
 

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When I read such statements, I feel sad.

The fact is that I also have similar feelings. But I understand that out of a huge number of users, there will be those for whom this content does not seem superfluous and not interesting.
In terms of dialogue it isn't bad, I get what L&P is trying to do.

The inner monologue though, is too much.
 

ancienregimele

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It's fiction, of course, but most of the people here wouldn't play a game starring a serial rapist.
So if I have a stomachache with blackmail then just because I can't ignore how the woman would feel.
That's one reason. The other reason is that as the blackmail stories are written in most games,
they run again in a parallel universe to the virtual game world. They remain without consequences for
the blackmailer and the blackmailed (provided it concerns their previous social status).
Because that's exactly what we as players don't want to deal with the consequences of blackmail.
We want the side door.
Most blackmail stories amount to a breach of will. This is simply reinterpreted here as "she enjoys it".
It just messes up the story for me when the developer makes it so easy for himself. Even in a fictional story,
an emotional logic must follow. And that doesn't mean I put Sophia in underwear in front of the school class
and then call it erotic.
No, most people wouldn't play a game with a serial rapist, anymore than we would revel in a game where the protagonist is a torturer or a killer. Such niche fictions exist, however, so it becomes a case of where do you draw the line? AWAM has gained popularity because of a focus on breaking taboos such as incest. I don't pretend to have the moral high ground with my personal detestation of this facet of the game (which is one of the main plotlines, after all) & my post was in reaction to a welter of contributions which seemed to suggest that any form of coercion, such as blackmail, was reprehensible to the point of being unacceptable, even if conducted in the realms of fantasy. A taboo too far, so to speak.

Put directly, if I don't spend my time denigrating incest at every opportunity & just accept it as someone else's kink, I can't then appreciate 'holier than thou' tirades from fans who don't like blackmail & choose to declare this fact in fairly strident terms. There has to be a toleration of each others' preferences, along with some modicum of understanding that we all have different tastes.

I appreciate that it's easy to become invested in fictional characters & I sometimes find myself hoping for a happy ending to AWAM but I still enjoy the blackmail. I am one of those who'll never reinterpret anything along the lines of, "she enjoys it." This is a lazy, unrealistic formula which plagues much of erotic fiction, (as well as RL but with hideous consequences). When Sophia becomes a happy participant or takes the initative in Aiden's schemes, it will cease being blackmail & as I've said elsewhere, it will be another routine sex game with consensual participants. If & when this happens, it signifies, for me, the end of the fun.

There was more to be gained, as I saw it, from maintaining the Bennett storyline, if he'd found some better leverage for his blackmail. I prefer Sophia dealing with other adults. Bennett illustrates the appeal of blackmail when he has Sophia take off her panties in the restaurant. If he'd asked her to do this & she'd readily agreed, this would not have been erotic. It was the element of being compelled to do something against her nature that made this such a memorable scene. This was real progress. Sophia standing in front of the class in her underwear, although a delightful sight no doubt, would not be erotic. There has to be a subtler approach that I feel doesn't chime with Aiden.

I don't wish to see any long-term damage to Sophia. I don't even want her marriage to break down, not really but I also don't want to wrap her in cotton wool. Blackmail provides the edge this game needs. It's a question of how long will it do this. Again, put directly, incest fans are well catered for & I'm not complaining. Where I will complain is when the blackmail descends into a sex romp farce.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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So, after a lon Pause I will be here more often. And for now I will start with this

My Storylines favourites in AWAM:

1. Sam
2. Ellie
3. Alyssa
4. Patricia
5. Morello
6. Maid(?) if it is one.
7. Aiden
8. Side Job
9. Vicky
10. Dylan boarding school ;)
I don't think we can even consider the Maid (Natalie), or the side jobs, as stories that can be ranked at this point. These stories, especially Natalie's, are so preliminary that they barely take up any time in-game. They may develop into something substantial, but for now they seem like barely formed kernels of a story.
 

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Anyone who has been in long-term relationships (marriage or dating) knows that they take work. Breakdowns in the relationship are rarely the fault of just one person. It is very easy to get into a routine when you're in a long-term relationship, and it can be hard to see if it's not working. That's when you need strong lines of communication so that you can tell your partner what you need. While we all like to pretend that we always give every sexual encounter 110% effort, all of us are liars if we say that. Liam should be more intuitive of Sophia's needs, but if he's not picking up on signals she needs to communicate to him what she needs. Her inability or unwillingness to engage in this conversation is a character flaw, and it is no better or worse than Liam's efforts in bed. From what we have seen he isn't unwilling to do the things that she wants, she's literally not telling him the things that she wants.

The fixation some people have with Liam, and cucking and humiliating him, is weird to me. There was so much hate for the guy, even before the casino, that I can't help but look with a little bit of side eye when I hear people talk about wanting to see him humiliated or commit suicide. It's equally weird when we elevate Sophia into a "goddess" like she is purely good and sympathetic in all things. If you have Sophia on the filthy route, you need to accept that what she's doing is outside the bounds of her marriage and would be considered "immoral" by just about anyone.
I agree with your thoughts. I too don't understand the hate Liam gets from some people. He is an Ideal husband. Everyone talks about him not caring about Sophia's needs but completely ignore the fact that he has been her husband for around 18-20 years and has taken care of her needs as stated by Sophia herself. Now in this new city if Liam is a little busy trying to bring his family the best life he would expect cooperation from his wife. If she can't control her urges for a month or two then the problem is Sophia not Liam. Sophia never conveys her dissatisfaction to Liam in the entire story. Understandably this is a game about corruption so that part of the logic has to be ignored but then hating on Liam is also not correct and idolising Sophia is also wrong.

Also something that is not very logically is that after the morello event she has the option to refuse sex with Liam as a punishment I suppose. Now she has been horny for over a week. Constantly giving into the lust and have fantasies of getting gangbanged by teenagers, being constantly teased and yet she is refusing to do it with her husband.
 
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Taker Fan

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The maid's name is Nathalie. Her next event is just before the concert
Oh thank you for the reminder

I don't think we can even consider the Maid (Natalie), or the side jobs, as stories that can be ranked at this point. These stories, especially Natalie's, are so preliminary that they barely take up any time in-game. They may develop into something substantial, but for now they seem like barely formed kernels of a story.
Well, you are right. But I see them as a filler. Like in some Animes who have filler Arc´s(Story)
 
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