Alley_Cat

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Ellie is already with Julia and Logan, is that right?
So the concert would be an attempt to establish a Sam / Ellie relationship? It would be weird.

If Patricia and Ellie are going to the concert, it may be to "push" Sophia to go to Sam.

When you think back to the club night, Patricia wasn't really mad at Sophia for letting go of Tyler.
When they talk about it back home.
And Ellie can understand Sophia, seeing as she now knows the issues with Liam.
They may therefore be there to prevent Sophia from thinking too much and then after all, it is only a kiss.
What do you think ?

And then if I remember correctly, Sam was disappointed to hear that Sophia would invite people.
Yes, Ellie is with both Logan and Ellie. But is thinking of dumping Logan because of how great a kisser Jules is. I mean, Little Precious can get both Ellie and Sophia wet just from kissing.
After their time in the shower, in the morning. I don't think Ellie is too happy that her mom is throwing her into Sam's arms.
I don't know.
While Ellie thinks Sam is cute, she only dates guys that enhance her rep, and are older. The default is that Ellie dates Aaron, the MVP of the basketball team. So Sam needs to age two years, and become sporty.
Or Sam, after the concert, is going to get drunk with his friends since it's in a bar.
Sophia will then take him home and during the trip, Sam will have wandering hands and say nonsense :cool:
While it might be legal for Sam to perform, it doesn't mean he is legal to drink. In Australia at least, any minors need to wear a wristband when in a bar, which means they can be there, but not drink. Similar to how in the Nightclub event, Ellie can be there, but Sophia doesn't allow her a cocktail.
Does it come with half an updates worth of instructions? That bike had better be worth adding it to the story, and not end up being a disappointment.
Considering I suspect more of the glacial burn, disappointment in the Aiden event is the only thing I'm sure of.
So I just replayed and sent Dylan to bording school to see the Amber/Dylan content, Is this story line only ever going to happen if he gets sent away or do you think he may end up having scenes with her if he stays home? They seem to get along quite well and seeing Sam get pissed at his "buddy" getting close to his mom is great for me as a Dylan fan and Sam disliker (hater?).

That last Sam event was the final nail in the coffin for me as regard to his character, groping Sophia telling her that a womans body is like a cello and describing his dreams to her while a day or two earlier during the chicken figh he is hitting Dylan in the head for something he was trying to do aswell.

I seem to read a lot about how Sam is much more mature than Dylan and yes he seems to have more expericence and confidance with women but he is still just as immature as Dylan as shown during the trampoline and gaming events where he felt the need to show off by doing backfilps and fight for a controller like a child would.

In conclusion do we know if there will be any chance of an alternative Dylan/Amber story and Sam's a dick.

Also when is the next Patricia event supposed to take place?
Anyone remember how far away (# of updates or playable days) the Horse Riding event is?
Dylan/Amber is only if from the beginning you are on the Dylan boarding school route, in order to get the pool event.

The next Patricia event is the museum date on playable day 14 (currently at 12, so years off), followed by the day-long playable day 15 event at Zoe's horse ranch.
 

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His performance!!!!!!!!! Do you mean with the band or with Sophia?:ROFLMAO:
Maybe we will get a little Sam & Sophia performance :sneaky:.
But for some reason, my gut tells me that we will also see a jealous Sophia.
Maybe she is suddenly jealous of her sister that she is talking to Sam. Or maybe she gets jealous of Ellie for talking to Sam. Or third option: She is jealous of both of them. And wished she had not invite them.
 
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So I just replayed and sent Dylan to bording school to see the Amber/Dylan content, Is this story line only ever going to happen if he gets sent away or do you think he may end up having scenes with her if he stays home? They seem to get along quite well and seeing Sam get pissed at his "buddy" getting close to his mom is great for me as a Dylan fan and Sam disliker (hater?).

That last Sam event was the final nail in the coffin for me as regard to his character, groping Sophia telling her that a womans body is like a cello and describing his dreams to her while a day or two earlier during the chicken figh he is hitting Dylan in the head for something he was trying to do aswell.

I seem to read a lot about how Sam is much more mature than Dylan and yes he seems to have more expericence and confidance with women but he is still just as immature as Dylan as shown during the trampoline and gaming events where he felt the need to show off by doing backfilps and fight for a controller like a child would.

In conclusion do we know if there will be any chance of an alternative Dylan/Amber story and Sam's a dick.

Also when is the next Patricia event supposed to take place?
Careful now. Don't talk bad about Sam and his Cello. My responses to you here on the subject were deleted by a moderator. Very Touchy subject. Don't even Joke about it. The Cello mafia will come for you and delete you, leaving no traces behind... Respect the Cello. Inside their Cello cases they fit bigger weapons. (no joke... this time)
 

Scarlet56

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Thanks Alley-Cat but I already know all this.

But it's plausible that Patricia and Ellie are used as a pretext to push Sophia towards Sam.
Have fun a bit like the Nightclub.

As for Julia, considering how Neil behaves with her, I doubt that he will allow his daughter to go there.
But hey, why not.

Regarding drinking, Sam still has a driving license and then, until proven otherwise , we aren't in Australia.

It is still possible despite everything, right?
 
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Sabertooth__

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Thanks Alley-Cat but I already know all this.

But it's plausible that Patricia and Ellie are used as a pretext to push Sophia towards Sam.
Have fun a bit like the Nightclub.

As for Julia, considering how Neil behaves with her, I doubt that he will allow his daughter to go there.
But hey, why not.

Regarding drinking, Sam still has a driving license and then, until proven guilty, we are not in Australia.

It is still possible despite everything, right?
Of course everything is possible. We didn't get 30+ Sam points for nothing. As per my opinion we might get an option to either spend more time with Ellie or alone time with Sophia. Though of course almost everyone will go with Sophia. So something is likely to happen at that event.
 

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It would be a nice change of pace to start with a woman who is already on the threshold of going over the edge into slut territory, or can choose to reign herself in.
I think Jessica O'Neil's Hard News is probably the best example of a somewhat realistic starting point. Good Girl Gone Bad is excellent and starts with a realistically naive character. Our Red String (the second game by the same author as GGGB) is also great for realistic characters that have reasonable options available to them.

With AWAM I think one of the great aspects is Sohpia is always herself. She doesn't see a dick and suddenly become overcome with lust. Most porn games and most porn in general falls into a mode of plot setup and then the sex happens but the sex part could be anyone from any setup so it all comes out the same.
 

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But it's plausible that Patricia and Ellie are used as a pretext to push Sophia towards Sam.
Have fun a bit like the Nightclub.
I don't know. I can't imagine Ellie and Patricia "pushing" Sophia to have a bit fun with Sam? The guy (name?) in the nightclub was an adult. The situation yes, could become similar. But with Sam... no or? Ellie/Patricia pushing her? :unsure:
 

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I think Jessica O'Neil's Hard News is probably the best example of a somewhat realistic starting point. Good Girl Gone Bad is excellent and starts with a realistically naive character. Our Red String (the second game by the same author as GGGB) is also great for realistic characters that have reasonable options available to them.

With AWAM I think one of the great aspects is Sohpia is always herself. She doesn't see a dick and suddenly become overcome with lust. Most porn games and most porn in general falls into a mode of plot setup and then the sex happens but the sex part could be anyone from any setup so it all comes out the same.
With a lot of games, a (rather shaky) story is the pretext for sex scenes. Looking at the presentation of a game, we see the multiplication of scenes, positions, possibilities of choice of partners. Just say yes or no. Be careful, I am not criticizing, I am just giving a very summarized (and perhaps simplistic) version of the image that these games can give.

With AWAM or JOHN, there is such a construction of characters that sex becomes the culmination of something. JOHN's scenario (with concrete journalistic investigation) cannot be compared to Sophia's evolutionary story, I am aware of that. For Jessica, choosing her partners according to her (our) desires and needs, leads to intense scenes. Sophia could follow the same path. She is not yet ready to surrender, but desire and lust lie in wait and overwhelm her. Which will give even more strength to his first time.
 

Scarlet56

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I don't know. I can't imagine Ellie and Patricia "pushing" Sophia to have a bit fun with Sam? The guy (name?) in the nightclub was an adult. The situation yes, could become similar. But with Sam... no or? Ellie/Patricia pushing her? :unsure:
A little Alcohol (Sophia needs very little) + nice song from Sam, the atmosphere. We never know.
It can touch Sophia like it touched her during the cello lesson.
Do we ever know.
A speculation like any other after all :)
 

john_jones21

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With a lot of games, a (rather shaky) story is the pretext for sex scenes. Looking at the presentation of a game, we see the multiplication of scenes, positions, possibilities of choice of partners. Just say yes or no. Be careful, I am not criticizing, I am just giving a very summarized (and perhaps simplistic) version of the image that these games can give.
Variety is what's important in my opinion. I don't mind a game about a big dicked guy that lives with his mother/landlady and older sister/tenant and younger sister/tenant but when 50% of games are like that it's just boring and repetitive.

I like AWAM but it's bogged in so many production issues we'll never see it completed.
 

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Variety is what's important in my opinion. I don't mind a game about a big dicked guy that lives with his mother/landlady and older sister/tenant and younger sister/tenant but when 50% of games are like that it's just boring and repetitive.

I like AWAM but it's bogged in so many production issues we'll never see it completed.
It's hard to admit that this VN will never be finished. :(
Maybe it will be at the cost of abandoning certain routes, but there will inevitably be disappointments. As long as L&P is bent on quality (already very satisfactory and even more!) Rather than chaining scenes, time will lengthen indefinitely. But the quality of the characters and their construction comes at this price. I wouldn't want L&P to give up either of its characters. And the price to pay is the wait ...
 
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... Blame Dylan.
I don’t panic, but pizza here is Dylan ?! develop sophia pastipena not a little bitch and a slut of a sense from a tavo that her husband fucks her ochin .. from etava she and ishe kavoto who would fuck her pastiena and not from a rocket .. tagda to the patsemu Dilan vinavat I didn’t get it ?!
 
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