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What I am really interested in is what Morello will/could do to Liam to teach him a lesson.
Either by threatening him verbally or making him listen to a recording of the prison visit.
 
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I reckon you are like the world's single biggest Dylan fan and are trying to hide it, so that you can hang out with the cool kids in the "I hate Dylan" fan club, but deep down you know that you love him dearly!!

As you know I am just teasing, but as I have said to you before I would rather be talking positively about those characters we like in AWAM rather being continually negative about those characters we dislike.

For me personally, I will follow the Dylan route for as long as possible until in the future it clashes with characters that I like more. But I would prefer to skip the Dylan-bashing.

At least you and I can agree on how lovely Alyssa is!!
I will probably change my mind about Dylan as he has finally stopped being a whinny little shit,at last.
Aiden is another guy that I am getting interested in and not because of the blackmail as I think that his bad boy image is just a front for him to hide behind, one which Sophia could unravel.
 

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What I am really interested in is what Morello will/could do to Liam to teach him a lesson.
100%. That situation positively screams "Indecent Proposal". So it is intriguing how else L&P could resolve that situation without going in that direction. Other than that seemingly obvious route, how else could Sophia and/or Liam be of service to the Don.

Now not many people would miss Liam if the Don chose some of the stricter options of teaching Liam a lesson.
But I am more interested in the impact on the storyline, of the impact on Sophia.
 

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100%. That situation positively screams "Indecent Proposal". So it is intriguing how else L&P could resolve that situation without going in that direction. Other than that seemingly obvious route, how else could Sophia and/or Liam be of service to the Don.

Now not many people would miss Liam if the Don chose some of the stricter options of teaching Liam a lesson.
But I am more interested in the impact on the storyline, of the impact on Sophia.
The consequences of such actions as Morello beating 12 bells out of Liam or Liam finding out what Sophia did for Larry all point back to Liam.
Morello beating 12 bells out of Liam and Sophia thinks well you brought this on yourself through gambling.
Liam screams at Sophia after finding out what she did for Larry and Sophia shoots back that if Liam had not gambled the house away in the first place then she would of had to do such things for Larry.
 
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For the other songs, my previous post:


-zoneout- I attach the mp3 of the third one to the post, it's 6MB I don't know if I am allowed to do that...


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Ok here it is. Let me tell ya, it was a pain to get something to record. I recorded the crappiest quality video with normal quality audio. I apologize the audio is soo low. If you need with higher volume, I can record again.
 

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One thing that I don't think has been discussed yet is will Sophia be able to go back to her normal everyday life with or without Liam?
What I mean by this is after all the love/affection/admiration/devotion showered on her by Ellie/Dylan and if/when they have to leave to attend college how will this affect Sophia?As she does have a special bond with them that goes beyond mother son or mother daughter.
 
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One thing that I don't think has been discussed yet is will Sophia be able to go back to her normal everyday life with or without Liam?
What I mean by this is after all the love/affection/admiration/devotion showed on her by Ellie/Dylan and if/when they have to leave to attend college how will this affect Sophia?As she does have a special bond with them that goes beyond mother son or mother daughter.
Although the game production should get Liam and Sophia to retirement age. The Playable days will not get the kids to college.:LOL::(
 

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One thing that I don't think has been discussed yet is will Sophia be able to go back to her normal everyday life with or without Liam?
What I mean by this is after all the love/affection/admiration/devotion showed on her by Ellie/Dylan and if/when they have to leave to attend college how will this affect Sophia?As she does have a special bond with them that goes beyond mother son or mother daughter.
“Don’t you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?”—Sandor Szavost, Eyes Wide Shut

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Bill and Alice have come to know of each other's thoughts and feelings and actions: for one a recurring dream and for the other a persistent, if short-lived, waking dream.
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There's an interesting case that proves my point about L&P not being that slow as the people think and not milking his patrons: Lewdlab.

Lewdlab did Dreams of Desire, a very popular game with great renders for the time, and it was a fast paced one: the sex scenes happened soon. There were no complaints about slow development, he received a lot of praise and 4700 patrons in return. After that, he released Midnight Paradise, the opposite, a game with great renders but a slow burn as AWAM. What happened? The same as here. If you go to Midnight Paradise's thread, there's a lot of hate towards him, a lot of 1 rating reviews, despite of the big effort and great renders. The same complaints and insults that L&P gets here are there: "this dev is a jerk", "blue balling fest", "Still no sex scenes? What a joke". (All of that before of the recents events of a remastered version)

We are talking about a dev that was loved when his game was fast paced and now hated when he launched a slow burn one. He still is the same dev, the same one that delivered content in a correct time. From 4700 patrons, he dropped to 3300. It's not the dev and development time what people hate the most, it's the slow burn, they can't stand it.

I repeat it again, this type of high quality slow burn games should be done by a team, specially an ambitious as this one, not by a single person.

AWAM is more popular than Dreams of Desire (at least here), a 4700 patrons game, yet it's below 2000. If this one were a fast paced one, L&P would have gotten more patrons without a doubt, above 3000 for sure. How is that milking?
One suggestion: pay no attention to comments accusing L&P of milking, don’t try to refute them. Such accusations presume to know what’s in his head and don’t really have anything to do with what we can actually know, which is what’s delivered and when.

Being a slow developer just means one or more of the following are probably true: they can just be really slow and methodical and fussy about the smallest of details; they can be really poor at planning (or at least, sticking to a plan); they can be so enamored of every idea they come up with that they can’t bear to ask the question of whether it’s a necessary component (let alone whether it belongs or how it fits in the story). This is not a full list of all the things that could make a developer “slow” of course, but all of them can be observed and none of them require said developer to be a money grubbing cynic.
 

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One suggestion: pay no attention to comments accusing L&P of milking, don’t try to refute them. Such accusations presume to know what’s in his head and don’t really have anything to do with what we can actually know, which is what’s delivered and when.

Being a slow developer just means one or more of the following are probably true: they can just be really slow and methodical and fussy about the smallest of details; they can be really poor at planning (or at least, sticking to a plan); they can be so enamored of every idea they come up with that they can’t bear to ask the question of whether it’s a necessary component (let alone whether it belongs or how it fits in the story). This is not a full list of all the things that could make a developer “slow” of course, but all of them can be observed and none of them require said developer to be a money grubbing cynic.
I agree. The people whining about "milking" don't make any sense. If they're not giving him money on Patreon then how is L&P milking them? Answer: He's not and never was. They're just jealous and want attention so they throw little tantrums to get noticed. Pathetic ankle-biters :rolleyes:
 

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:LOL: :ROFLMAO::sick:
SO WHY YOU AND KILL JOY AND COUPLE OTHERS REPORTING COMMENTS AND ADMIN DELETING THE TRUTH BOUT GAME ??

Why you hide them if L&P is not a liar ??

I've post several comments (since my boyfriend work as an assist-video montage manager in studio) about HOW LONG RENDERING taking time , how much time you need for scripts and why there is no ANY ANIMATION in this game ,but yet admin leaves your craps and lies , but deleting SMART things, honest comments, realistic reviews and ratings ??

Dude, there is low kind of human being but WORST KIND ARE THOSE who work for others to spread lies and try to make other ppl stupid and hide TRUTH.
Biggest insult here is to try to make other ppl fools by deleting or reporting their comments about facts.

I never had any problem with any developer you can check in my history, no other developer reported me or complain and cry about me...

...till I got on this shitty thread bout this pathological liar.

If ppl are correct there is no reason to hide or delete comments of truth !!

I have posted several games here from STEAM for direct comparison yet comments was deleted saying how we pilling up things to no reason , yet 4, 5 of ya here writing billion lines long comments bout same shit over and over hopelessly tryin to defend game and lies.

Those games are FULLY RENDERED 3D , OPEN WORLD SEXY GAMES , WITH BILLION OPEN WORLD THINGS TO DO , AND BILLION ANIMATIONS.

For those who know how rendering works , SMART MAN KNOWS THAT VIDEOS AND ANIMATION USING and WASTING 50X more times to finish the job than wallpapers background jpg images etc.

Those games I have posted are done by 1 or 2 ppl within ONE YEAR most of them have over 10 or 20 gb content !! ...and yet somehow shallow persons here claim that L&P guy who render wallpapers no animations no videos TOOK 4 YEARS TO BUILD 4 gb game with few daz models ??

Are u nuts ?? No smart girl or man will swallow and believe that crap.
The thing that you don't understand is that the Dev has nothing to do with your comments being taken down. He has even stopped visiting the thread since the whole outrage a month before the update.

And about mentioning the time it takes to make a render and other stuff, it depends person to person. Some people can get it done in 5 minutes some take more time. And if it is so easy then why are there so few developers who can actually even come close to matching his renders in quality. To me personally L&P's renders are the best I have come across. Others like Jessica O'Neil who have a really good quality, also are slow. Ofcourse there are exceptions but that's the point I made at the beginning. Not everyone is the brightest and the best and deliver at the same speed.

About the size of the game, you do realize that the size can be inflated and compressed, that's a stupid basis for comparison. Not everyone can make good animations as well. L&P does not want to include them mostly because they will take him more time and he is not good at them and wouldn't want them to bring down the quality of the game.

A lot of the fast paced Devs have a team or atleast a one or two more people to help him. Very few are there who can deliver 20+ renders a day with a really high quality. The only thing wrong about him is his working style, the method he follows restricts him completely and he is stubborn to not change his working ways either. He does not want to delegate any sort of authority to anyone.

After all these problems and how trashy you say the game is, why don't you stop watching this thread and coming back here. It doesn't make sense for a sane human having a life to actually come here everyday and talk trash about a porn game.
 

Sabertooth__

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OF COURSE NOBODY CAN BE NOTICED HERE cause 90% of ppl who wrote negative bout this game , you, KillJoy or whatever your several burners account names are - HAS REPORTED THEM soyou can talk in between yourself to spread lies bout pathological liar L&P = LIARS & PATHOLOGICAL !!

Jealous ppl is the part that makes me laugh so much :

You see , unlike you and especially Kill Joy and couple other lier



Keep cry dude. We all know developers have few burners here, dont make me laugh with that shallow comment of yours.

Every developer have burner here.

And his errand boys too.
What do you think, he is a big company, that he has people planted on the thread just to defend him. Even that thought is laughable.

About this game you mentioned, The Twist, I just went and checked the game and I don't like comparing and hate to say this but do you seriously compare those renders with what L&P delivered in the last update.
 

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Let's compare shall we :

WE ALL know game here and on other erotic games sites with title name THE TWIST

Can any smart man/girl make comparison and tell us :

- how many models
- how many videos
- how many animation
- how many in game happening
- how many action
- and how many free movement

...THE TWIST game have compare to WIFE & MOTHER ??

Both games are almost same age 4 or 5 years old :

TELL US HOW TWIST HAVE BILLION THINGS BILLION MODELS BILLION ANIMATIONS AND SEXY SCENES AND HALF-FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT LIKE SIMS , but wife and mother just JPG images and couple daz models with no animation only FRAME BY FRAME movement like old retro cartoons drawn by man with hand ??
Really?
You have no clue what are you talking about, right?
Comparing Apples (HQ DAZ/Renpy 2D Game) with Peas (LQ Real Time Unity 3D Game).
I dont say that the development of AWAM shouldnt be faster, but this comparison ….
 

Sabertooth__

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Are u blind or you cant read ??

ANIMATION OF 3D MODELS THAT ARE MOVEABLE

IS 500X MORE DIFFICULT THAN NONE MOVEABLE FRAME BY FRAME SHITTY DAZ MODELS WHO'S SET IN JPG IMAGE

NOT IN 3D WORLD.

Are You blind that much ??

Do you even know what 3D world is compare to WALLPAPER STATIC BACKGROUND ??
Okay,my bad, that dev does animation, cool, that's what he likes and that's how he wants to make his game. Can you ask that Dev to make a single render that surpasses L&P's, just one not more, it should be a cake walk for him since he does 500x more difficult stuff and this is mere background image. If he can't then you should just shut it too.
I only saw the images and they just look like lifeless clay models unlike Sophia who looks as real as 3d character can be made. Sophia feels human and that is the principal reason people even play the game.
 

Bartxy

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Lets simplify

USE ANY SMARTPHONE record 1 classic static image jpg background.
Then use same phone and RECORD short video 360 full circle AROUND you .

Tell us what have BIGGER SIZE ?? Image or animation ??

Then put in PREMIERE PRO or VEGAS SONY PRO

and render both...

what would take more times ?? A Video or JPG image to put in any rendering project ?
As I said, you have no idea what you are talking about. How animations are working in a real rime 3d game.
 

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Are u blind or you cant read ??

ANIMATION OF 3D MODELS THAT ARE MOVEABLE

IS 500X MORE DIFFICULT THAN NONE MOVEABLE FRAME BY FRAME SHITTY DAZ MODELS WHO'S SET IN JPG IMAGE

NOT IN 3D WORLD.

Are You blind that much ??

Do you even know what 3D world is compare to WALLPAPER STATIC BACKGROUND ??
Actually, no. Unity and Daz are two completely different softwares. This game is done in Daz and that one in Unity. Unity allows you render in real time, in other words, the software creates renders automatically while the player is playing the game. It's a software designed for full animated 3d games. Daz is another thing, you create render by render manually. it's nearly impossible to create a full animated game in Daz, also that would be nonsensical. You need to work one single frame at the time. In unreal you set the models, poses, movements and scenarios from the beginning and the software render all of that in real time, that's why those games are so heavy and require powerful machines to be played (depending the quality of the game of course).

Choose one or the other depends of the format of your project. This one is a visual novel, it doesn't require that the player moves from side to side and it's more focused in the narrative and dialogues, that's why there are still images. The other one is a 3D game, designed for an interactive gameplay. Two different experiences.
 
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