Bane71

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It's a balancing act & so far a very successful one but it's hardly being "pushed too far." IMO the whole art class, from start to finish, was one of the most erotic events to date. There was fine crafting of the storyline to reach the situations I assume you're referring to, not to forget top class renders, in an unexpectedly delightful setting. This to me, was L&P at his best. Even though in the same update we read him at his worst, i. e. the shota event dialogue/monologue.

I understand that there are many fans who want to see Sophia in complete control of everything, all the time, (like RL???). Certainly, I always expect the reactions that accrue here to such events that transgress this wish. Myself, I wish there was absolutely zero incest in the story. I don't think it's realistic, erotic, intriguing etc., yet I never feel moved to comment negatively except in posts like this.
I post them because few blackmail fans appear willing to stand up & be counted & I know they're out there, maybe just not so much on this thread.

I respect those fans who wish the MC to have a gently descending corruption, culminating in having Dylan's knob fully extended inside her. I don't even like the sentence I've just written because I'm really, really not into incest. On the other hand I'm not suggesting incest should be diluted or that it's going too far, too fast. That, to me, is what respecting other people's kinks is all about. I realise that the Dev is trying to cater to a broad audience base but a corruption story should be a good vehicle to be able to do exactly that. My view is that what happens should not be bound by societal norms, provided the characters are of reasonable ages. (I don't like the shota but let's not get sidetracked).

"Unwillingly means, that she could get so deep in some special situations, that she rather has to do it (but she can still refuse but then the consequences are incalculable or just really bad). But all in all you can always decide if you want to do something or not. Of some things she will get pleasure some time, other situations could lead her in unwillingly further decisions." That's a direct quote from L&P, which to me seems quite balanced, as long as we're talking about an erotic game/VN for adults, played by people with adult experiences.

There shouldn't be any 'elephant in the room' & there's not because the Dev has announced, voluntarily, that there'll be no rape & this remember in a corruption game.....unusual, surprising, self-limiting etc. I sometimes have to remind myself that this is what this is, a corruption game, because it's so mild. On the other hand, tasks might become, indeed should become, more "extreme," whatever that means. Various storylines should soon become more extreme, not only the blackmail, if there's going to be genuine progress.

I'm never going to be one of those who childishly encourages disapproving players to simply leave. I detest those puerile responses. Rather, I advocate my own method which is to avoid what I don't much care for, whenever possible & just live with the rest. Again, that's where real respect exists.

[Now, a quick note to facepalming, (never seen a real woman naked), virgin fratboys. Send me your facepalms if you experience a burning desire to express your rejection of me & my opinions, while lacking the necessary ability yourself to write anything constructive or remotely intelligent]. I'm not trying to win a popularity contest & I never will, try or win, that is. What I will do, is speak my mind, openly, honestly, with all due respect & stuff the consequences.
I want to thank you for your post and your tolerance for the fetish of other users. Unfortunately, quite often many users passionately and impatiently want to receive only what they like and express their categorical displeasure for the presence of what they do not like.
Some people don't think that we are different and we all have our own fetishes.
 

mulerider

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It's a balancing act & so far a very successful one but it's hardly being "pushed too far." IMO the whole art class, from start to finish, was one of the most erotic events to date. There was fine crafting of the storyline to reach the situations I assume you're referring to, not to forget top class renders, in an unexpectedly delightful setting. This to me, was L&P at his best. Even though in the same update we read him at his worst, i. e. the shota event dialogue/monologue.

I understand that there are many fans who want to see Sophia in complete control of everything, all the time, (like RL???). Certainly, I always expect the reactions that accrue here to such events that transgress this wish. Myself, I wish there was absolutely zero incest in the story. I don't think it's realistic, erotic, intriguing etc., yet I never feel moved to comment negatively except in posts like this.
I post them because few blackmail fans appear willing to stand up & be counted & I know they're out there, maybe just not so much on this thread.

I respect those fans who wish the MC to have a gently descending corruption, culminating in having Dylan's knob fully extended inside her. I don't even like the sentence I've just written because I'm really, really not into incest. On the other hand I'm not suggesting incest should be diluted or that it's going too far, too fast. That, to me, is what respecting other people's kinks is all about. I realise that the Dev is trying to cater to a broad audience base but a corruption story should be a good vehicle to be able to do exactly that. My view is that what happens should not be bound by societal norms, provided the characters are of reasonable ages. (I don't like the shota but let's not get sidetracked).

"Unwillingly means, that she could get so deep in some special situations, that she rather has to do it (but she can still refuse but then the consequences are incalculable or just really bad). But all in all you can always decide if you want to do something or not. Of some things she will get pleasure some time, other situations could lead her in unwillingly further decisions." That's a direct quote from L&P, which to me seems quite balanced, as long as we're talking about an erotic game/VN for adults, played by people with adult experiences.

There shouldn't be any 'elephant in the room' & there's not because the Dev has announced, voluntarily, that there'll be no rape & this remember in a corruption game.....unusual, surprising, self-limiting etc. I sometimes have to remind myself that this is what this is, a corruption game, because it's so mild. On the other hand, tasks might become, indeed should become, more "extreme," whatever that means. Various storylines should soon become more extreme, not only the blackmail, if there's going to be genuine progress.

I'm never going to be one of those who childishly encourages disapproving players to simply leave. I detest those puerile responses. Rather, I advocate my own method which is to avoid what I don't much care for, whenever possible & just live with the rest. Again, that's where real respect exists.

[Now, a quick note to facepalming, (never seen a real woman naked), virgin fratboys. Send me your facepalms if you experience a burning desire to express your rejection of me & my opinions, while lacking the necessary ability yourself to write anything constructive or remotely intelligent]. I'm not trying to win a popularity contest & I never will, try or win, that is. What I will do, is speak my mind, openly, honestly, with all due respect & stuff the consequences.
I'm all in favor of the blackmail by Aiden and Bennett, but I think it's horseshit if the MC enjoys it, no woman is going to enjoy it though blackmail
 

Bane71

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It’s so fucking stupid other devs I support, release their own teaser pics here first before any of us can. It’s to promote your game moron. I don’t see why that bothers him so much
Not in the same rude form, but I agree with you that it is not very cool to be so jealous of the teaser's publication. Indeed, often teaser, with great stretch, can be called a spoiler. Usually teasers from L&P tell us very little about the upcoming event, but the promotional efek, obviously, carries the teaser. Therefore, I believe his approach is somewhat wrong.
 

Bill_Buttlicker

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Jeez, still no non-husband sex scenes? To quote The Critic "It stinks." The whole point of adult games is sex scenes. Going years with none is completely unacceptable. This game stinks like a really rotten egg. The fans are almost like a cult. It could probably go another 10 years no non-husband sex and still get patrons from some and 5 star ratings.
The whole point of adult games is not just sex scenes. The main draw for erotic content is the build up as the reader/viewer slowly develops a rapport with the main character, their life and the decisions they make. You get none of that in porn. So if this game stinks so much guess we won't be seeing you any more. Bye.
 

Bane71

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The teaser is not bad but it isnt that good to deserve any sort of discussion.
Indeed, what is there to discuss? It's just that Natalie is very thorough in cleaning the house!

Maybe sometime in the future there will be something really interesting in teasers if teasers are not published without L&P permission.
 

lkrishna123

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Indeed, what is there to discuss? It's just that Natalie is very thorough in cleaning the house!

Maybe sometime in the future there will be something really interesting in teasers if teasers are not published without L&P permission.
I beg of you to give it to me personally I swear I will not publish that image anywhere.
 
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I'm all in favor of the blackmail by Aiden and Bennett, but I think it's horseshit if the MC enjoys it, no woman is going to enjoy it though blackmail
I think it's better that she enjoys it. The game's whole purpose is corrupting her. The fact that she is finding pleasure in something she shouldn't is what corruption is about.
What I fear is that if L&P makes it completely consensual the storyline would be meaningless.
 
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Bane71

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The whole point of adult games is not just sex scenes. The main draw for erotic content is the build up as the reader/viewer slowly develops a rapport with the main character, their life and the decisions they make. You get none of that in porn. So if this game stinks so much guess we won't be seeing you any more. Bye.
If not for the restrictions, I would put 100 likes on your post!
 

Sabertooth__

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Seems to be a lot of Sam hatred going around at the moment, which I'm finding interesting. Since I'm not playing his route, he's just a non-event for me.
Not Dylan or Sam, you don't play Aiden too. It really restricts the content you get to play.
Though I know you play the lesbian route and even I enjoy it a lot more than the hetero route.

Also I feel Sophia is safer in that route and the women are not a direct replacement of Liam, they are an addition, more like a bonus for Sophia.
 

Alley_Cat

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Not Dylan or Sam, you don't play Aiden too. It really restricts the content you get to play.
Though I know you play the lesbian route and even I enjoy it a lot more than the hetero route.

Also I feel Sophia is safer in that route and the women are not a direct replacement of Liam, they are an addition, more like a bonus for Sophia.
While, yes, it does restrict the content, as I've said before, there really isn't anything on those routes that I can't get on the routes I do play. The only real issue is that after 6 months wait, I got 10 minutes of rather bland content. And after this update it's likely to be around 2 years wait for 10 minutes of rather bland content. Playable day 12 for me is going to just be Sophia waking up, then a few renders for the class, the salon visit and that's pretty much it.

And yes, if Sophia was to ever get caught sleeping with another woman, Liam has already shown he's not opposed to the idea - he's already suggested a threesome with Nathalie. Might raise an eyebrow if he catches her with Ellie and/or Patricia, but I don't think it would be a complete dealbreaker like it would with Sam, Dylan, Aiden etc.
 

Alley_Cat

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come on man! there are so many people here who are Patreon members and nobody is giving shit!?
Why the fuss? It's likely just Nat in her maid outfit, which we've seen already. As has already been stated, even the top-tier teasers aren't anything special. It's not like it will be anything like her in just her apron.
 
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