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that was great movieIbanez probably
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So back to Sam's event...
What do you guys think that will likely happen?
I'm not talking about the logistics, whether he gives Sophia a drive home, a detour to a special spot, a walk on the beach etc etc. This are details that help to set the mood but let's forget that for a minute.
I think the general consensus is that they will have an alone moment, in any of the above or other settings.
What do you think will happen then?
Given the progression of Sam's story it's almost trivial to suggest a kiss. He had a lot of touching (the guitar lesson, the pool, the fashion show), a kiss on the cheek (pool) and a bit a "visual stimuli" (the balcony, the areola and the fashion show). It seems natural that the next step is a kiss, given that this is, supposedly, the "romantic" path (even if we know he is not that innocent) and of course sex is not happening.
Now, I see two main ways it can happen (we know that alcohol might be involved but it won't be play a role like in past event Bane71 ):
Now, before the previous update I would say that's enough, after all it's a big step for Sophia as it is the first time she kisses a male that is not her husband willingly.
But considering the change of pace of this PD, I wouldn't be surprised if things can escalate a bit farther. Sophia, once she decides to kiss, can be really carried away by the kiss and Sam can dare something more, like slowly sliding his hand under Sophia shirt to finally touch the objects of his desires.
Depending on Sophia dress we could even imagine that he manages to expose one breast for a kiss, while Sophia is completely overwhelmed by the moment of passion.
The limit for me is, as I said before, a very "light third" base, with Sam, e.g., getting to feel her inner thigh, like Tyler did at the club. If not exactly that, something in the same range.
Then Liam's call can bring Sophia back to reality as it as been discussed (for example).
What do you guys think?
Reasonable (considering the pace of the game, not our wishes)? Too much? Too conservative?
What do you guys think that will likely happen?
I'm not talking about the logistics, whether he gives Sophia a drive home, a detour to a special spot, a walk on the beach etc etc. This are details that help to set the mood but let's forget that for a minute.
I think the general consensus is that they will have an alone moment, in any of the above or other settings.
What do you think will happen then?
Given the progression of Sam's story it's almost trivial to suggest a kiss. He had a lot of touching (the guitar lesson, the pool, the fashion show), a kiss on the cheek (pool) and a bit a "visual stimuli" (the balcony, the areola and the fashion show). It seems natural that the next step is a kiss, given that this is, supposedly, the "romantic" path (even if we know he is not that innocent) and of course sex is not happening.
Now, I see two main ways it can happen (we know that alcohol might be involved but it won't be play a role like in past event Bane71 ):
- the "usual" way: if we look at the patterns throughout the game, most of Sophia's interactions with... let's call them the youngsters always happen as a sort of request: Can we kiss (Ellie, Julie), Can you show this and that (Dylan, Sam, Mayer's boys). Only Dylan and Emma stole a kiss, even if in different context and circumstances.
So following that pattern I can imagine Sam being romantic and all, talking about the concert, the song he might have dedicated to her and getting back to the "impossible" relationship talk of the pool, the longing for her etc and finally asking with puppy eyes for "just a kiss". That will start the usual Sophia internal dilemma and the choice is offered to give in. - the "romantic" way: a little bit as above with Sam being romantic, maybe if the place helps (like the beach) Sophia will be in awe and warmed up (also the song) and Sam could try a more direct approach like at the pool, starting to feel Sophia's arms with his hands, and slowly leaning in for a kiss either on the lips or on the neck (Sophia's weak spot). At that point Sophia has the choice to give in and let it happen. (Sorry it sounds a bit more romantic in my head but writing is definitely not my skill... I hope you get what I mean )
Now, before the previous update I would say that's enough, after all it's a big step for Sophia as it is the first time she kisses a male that is not her husband willingly.
But considering the change of pace of this PD, I wouldn't be surprised if things can escalate a bit farther. Sophia, once she decides to kiss, can be really carried away by the kiss and Sam can dare something more, like slowly sliding his hand under Sophia shirt to finally touch the objects of his desires.
Depending on Sophia dress we could even imagine that he manages to expose one breast for a kiss, while Sophia is completely overwhelmed by the moment of passion.
The limit for me is, as I said before, a very "light third" base, with Sam, e.g., getting to feel her inner thigh, like Tyler did at the club. If not exactly that, something in the same range.
Then Liam's call can bring Sophia back to reality as it as been discussed (for example).
What do you guys think?
Reasonable (considering the pace of the game, not our wishes)? Too much? Too conservative?
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Might give it another go one of these days. This will probably happen if AWAM is abandoned.
I must be more predictable than usual when it comes to AWAM.Somehow, based on your previous contributions, I expected exactly this answer from you.
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I am guessing that the speed of creating scenes is due to being able to use many assets from having already done most of the interior of the house. So it is great early speed. I still worry how long a new environment like Sam's concert will take.
Let's hope there's really something in "the power of positive thinking!"
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It is great with the speed increase but as Poser_Voyeur has said the real test will be with the new environment for Sam's concert.Even if he does use a ready made asset like he did with the classroom and Art class he will still most likely add assets and different lighting.
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And knowing how Morello is he would reach out and squash aiden for messing with Sophia. However that assumes a singular gang structure in the whereever. Most large cities have multiples and there are complex relationships. So assuming that Morello is tied to aiden is a large leap. All we know is that uncle is corrupt and a hot shot lawyer. We have no idea whom he works for or if he is his own corrupt boss. Therefore, there is any number of ways this could go down. If Morello has a sweet spot for Sophia, even if just for his brother, it would be bad juju to mess with that. There are some things you just don't do and Aiden is heading into that car crusher. His uncle wont have to worry since anything by him would just get him the passenger seat.
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I like the second optionIbanez probably
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That's possible, of course, so I won't stir up controversy by naming which storylines I WISH he would have picked to truncate!
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Ultimately it depends on what he has (none of us know), what level of customizing he wants to do (none of us know), how much he will use it (none of us know), will there be other sets i.e. club, parking lot, beach, car, apartment drop off, etc, etc (none of us know). So all this speculation has absolutely no factual basis. Granted, it is fun as it allows for imagination to run rampant and maybe stir the devs ideas (none of us know). Could not resist it again!
Sorry, I would like to answer you. But I don't like the character Sam. And don't want to think up romantic situations for him. I shoot him as soon as he crosses any other route.So back to Sam's event...
What do you guys think that will likely happen?
I'm not talking about the logistics, whether he gives Sophia a drive home, a detour to a special spot, a walk on the beach etc etc. This are details that help to set the mood but let's forget that for a minute.
I think the general consensus is that they will have an alone moment, in any of the above or other settings.
What do you think will happen then?
Given the progression of Sam's story it's almost trivial to suggest a kiss. He had a lot of touching (the guitar lesson, the pool, the fashion show), a kiss on the cheek (pool) and a bit a "visual stimuli" (the balcony, the areola and the fashion show). It seems natural that the next step is a kiss, given that this is the "romantic" path (even if we know he is not that innocent) and of course sex is not happening.
Now, I see two main ways it can happen (we know that alcohol might be involved but it won't be play a role like in past event KillJoys ):
That's for the kiss.
- the "usual" way: if we look at the patterns throughout the game, most of Sophia's interactions with... let's call them the youngsters
So following that pattern I can imagine Sam being romantic and all, talking about the concert, the song he might have dedicated to her and getting back to the "impossible" relationship talk of the pool, the longing for her etc and finally asking with puppy eyes for "just a kiss". That will start the usual Sophia internal dilemma and the choice is offered to give in.- the "romantic" way: a little bit as above with Sam being romantic, maybe if the place helps (like the beach) Sophia will be in awe and warmed up (also the song) and Sam could try a more direct approach like at the pool, starting to feel Sophia's arms with his hands, and slowly leaning in for a kiss either on the lips or on the neck (Sophia's weak spot). At that point Sophia has the choice to give in and let it happen. (Sorry it sounds a bit more romantic in my head but writing is definitely not my skill... I hope you get what I mean
Now, before the previous update I would say that's enough, after all it's a big step for Sophia as it is the first time she kisses a male that is not her husband willingly.
But considering the change of pace of this PD, I wouldn't be surprise if things can escalate a bit more. Sophia once she decide to kiss can be really carried away by the kiss and Sam can try something more, like slowly sliding his hand under Sophia shirt to finally touch the objects of his desires.
Depending on Sophia dress we could even imagine that he manage to expose one breast for a kiss, while Sophia gives in her moment of passion.
The limit for me is, as I said before, a very "light third" base, with Sam, e.g. getting to feel her inner thigh, like Tyler did at the club. If not exactly that, something in the same range.
Then Liam's call can bring Sophia back to reality as it as been discussed (for example).
What do you guys think?
Reasonable (considering the pace of the game, not our wishes)? Too much? Too conservative?
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Thinking about the Don Morello situation and Liam's debt. Now I don't have photographic memory - maybe someone who accesses the code or screenshots might be able to correct me.
From memory Liam is due a future promotion at work and I think L&P had deliberately set it (the promotion) a month after the casino debt would due to be repaid. So it is not that Liam cant replay the debt at all - just that he can't repay it in time.
So if L&P still wants to keep some semblance of realism, then Sophia visiting Larry in prison might just give them longer to repay rather than forgiving the whole debt. Otherwise the whole thing does nt make sense to me given that L&P has couple of times explicitly ruled out an Indecent Proposal scenario.
I know "realism" has been increasingly stretched over the last update. But the idea that US$400k debt can be forgiven for merely a flash of boobs and panties would totally break any realism for me.
From memory Liam is due a future promotion at work and I think L&P had deliberately set it (the promotion) a month after the casino debt would due to be repaid. So it is not that Liam cant replay the debt at all - just that he can't repay it in time.
So if L&P still wants to keep some semblance of realism, then Sophia visiting Larry in prison might just give them longer to repay rather than forgiving the whole debt. Otherwise the whole thing does nt make sense to me given that L&P has couple of times explicitly ruled out an Indecent Proposal scenario.
I know "realism" has been increasingly stretched over the last update. But the idea that US$400k debt can be forgiven for merely a flash of boobs and panties would totally break any realism for me.
This raises some interesting questions. I did say I wasn't going to speculate much but as I've played the Sam route so far......So back to Sam's event...
What do you guys think that will likely happen?
I'm not talking about the logistics, whether he gives Sophia a drive home, a detour to a special spot, a walk on the beach etc etc. This are details that help to set the mood but let's forget that for a minute.
I think the general consensus is that they will have an alone moment, in any of the above or other settings.
What do you think will happen then?
Given the progression of Sam's story it's almost trivial to suggest a kiss. He had a lot of touching (the guitar lesson, the pool, the fashion show), a kiss on the cheek (pool) and a bit a "visual stimuli" (the balcony, the areola and the fashion show). It seems natural that the next step is a kiss, given that this is the "romantic" path (even if we know he is not that innocent) and of course sex is not happening.
Now, I see two main ways it can happen (we know that alcohol might be involved but it won't be play a role like in past event KillJoys ):
That's for the kiss.
- the "usual" way: if we look at the patterns throughout the game, most of Sophia's interactions with... let's call them the youngsters
So following that pattern I can imagine Sam being romantic and all, talking about the concert, the song he might have dedicated to her and getting back to the "impossible" relationship talk of the pool, the longing for her etc and finally asking with puppy eyes for "just a kiss". That will start the usual Sophia internal dilemma and the choice is offered to give in.- the "romantic" way: a little bit as above with Sam being romantic, maybe if the place helps (like the beach) Sophia will be in awe and warmed up (also the song) and Sam could try a more direct approach like at the pool, starting to feel Sophia's arms with his hands, and slowly leaning in for a kiss either on the lips or on the neck (Sophia's weak spot). At that point Sophia has the choice to give in and let it happen. (Sorry it sounds a bit more romantic in my head but writing is definitely not my skill... I hope you get what I mean
Now, before the previous update I would say that's enough, after all it's a big step for Sophia as it is the first time she kisses a male that is not her husband willingly.
But considering the change of pace of this PD, I wouldn't be surprise if things can escalate a bit more. Sophia once she decide to kiss can be really carried away by the kiss and Sam can try something more, like slowly sliding his hand under Sophia shirt to finally touch the objects of his desires.
Depending on Sophia dress we could even imagine that he manage to expose one breast for a kiss, while Sophia gives in her moment of passion.
The limit for me is, as I said before, a very "light third" base, with Sam, e.g. getting to feel her inner thigh, like Tyler did at the club. If not exactly that, something in the same range.
Then Liam's call can bring Sophia back to reality as it as been discussed (for example).
What do you guys think?
Reasonable (considering the pace of the game, not our wishes)? Too much? Too conservative?
We know something more or less has to happen & a kiss would be my first guess. As this is L&P I would normally think that the next move would be Sophia pulling away &/or blocking his hand. It's possible that things could go further, if the Dev really is serious about increasing the pace. Following on could be the internal agonising & then the interruption from a Liam phone call & so on.
There is a sense of the unknown regarding the question of how a relatively inexperienced teenager manages to romance a beautiful sophisticated older woman. I know I wouldn't have been able to do this at 17 let alone dare to go in for a kiss. It was enough to try romancing girls my own age on a beach in the moonlight. [Added to which The North Sea is very cold & grey, even under a full moon]. Sam will have to take a gamble & hope for the best, which leads me to believe he will dedicate a song to his "special laydee," which hopefully won't turn into a cringeworthy moment. If it successfully creates a mood, perhaps Sophia will take the initiative, before being interrupted etc.
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Alley_Cat has mentioned this before that Liam could repay the debt if he had more time.
I have always thought that the prison visit was a long winded event to corrupt Sophia some more and add solutions to the Bennett/Aiden problem which could of been done without the prison event.
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Is nt Rhythm Guitar used in bands to distinguish versus Lead Guitar?
So Rhythm Guitar could quite be electric too.
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Sorry! You are broken! I think that is exactly what he did. And I totally agree with you!
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All depends on the woman and what she wants (Dustin Hoffman, Ann Bancroft The Graduate)
After side 2 I am totally expecting some cringe worthys. I believe it will become a staple.