VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Probably discussed before.

Would it be possible there's some sort of choice for Sophia having to choose either Sam or Dylan?

As time flies I'm not sure she'll sleep with both of them in one run but perhaps I am mistaken.

Routes eventually being mutually exclusive has certainly been discussed before, although I don't remember what conclusion we reached. Considering that choosing the Ellie route now excludes the Alyssa (hence Dylan) route, and that the bonus storyline currently requires no decisions needed for the Ellie route, and that in the Ellie/Julia event Sophia (and Ellie) almost swears off men, makes me think that the Ellie and Dylan routes will at some point become mutually exclusive.

The decision between Sam and Dylan I think would be better served by someone that plays those routes.

That said, considering how intertwined the Ellie and Patricia routes are, I don't think they'll be mutually exclusive.

 

[Daredevil20]

I just played this game from the beginning again. Sophia had a lot of opportunities with the dicks but always stayed away. It would have been great if we had a lot of sex scenes. Still the game is great. Do you guys have any other recommendations like this game but with more sexual content?

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

Routes eventually being mutually exclusive has certainly been discussed before, although I don't remember what conclusion we reached. Considering that choosing the Ellie route now excludes the Alyssa (hence Dylan) route, and that the bonus storyline currently requires no decisions needed for the Ellie route, and that in the Ellie/Julia event Sophia (and Ellie) almost swears off men, makes me think that the Ellie and Dylan routes will at some point become mutually exclusive.

The decision between Sam and Dylan I think would be better served by someone that plays those routes.

That said, considering how intertwined the Ellie and Patricia routes are, I don't think they'll be mutually exclusive.

So I'm guessing a Sophia/Dylan/Ellie event is all but impossible if not highly unlikely?

 

[hzjujk]

So I'm guessing a Sophia/Dylan/Ellie event is all but impossible if not highly unlikely?

At the moment it looks like a route Elli / Dylan is possible. But I can't imagine that Sophia would accept such a relationship at all. If so, then she has had sex with Elli and Dylan herself.

At the moment it looks like the routes (Sophia / Dylan and Elli / Dylan) are mutually exclusive.

But actually I can't understand this route Elli / Dylan at all. Too complicated and actually incomprehensible.

Whether Dylan will fuck his mother and sister at some point is still completely open. I hope L&P does not make the mistake and builds in this possibility.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

At the moment it looks like a route Elli / Dylan is possible. But I can't imagine that Sophia would accept such a relationship at all. If so, then she has had sex with Elli and Dylan herself.

At the moment it looks like the routes (Sophia / Dylan and Elli / Dylan) are mutually exclusive.

But actually I can't understand this route Elli / Dylan at all. Too complicated and actually incomprehensible.

Whether Dylan will fuck his mother and sister at some point is still completely open. I hope L&P does not make the mistake and builds in this possibility.

I too feel like there would be too many variables or issues between siblings to attempt such a taboo trinity, yet that doesn't make me want to see it as a viable path any less. Story-wise, I wouldn't propose Sophia intentionally work towards going down a path that leads specifically in a 3some. I would be interested in a possible storyline where Sophia considers ways on improving her children's relationship and budding sibling rivalry over her attention and ultimately erotic affections.

She then decides its in their best interest to create events/outings where they would both have chances to interact (Dylan and Ellie exclusively without distractions from their 'friends/lovers' though maybe occasionally bring along Auntie Patricia) and with her present. In this way they could put their differences aside, actually begin to bond and get comfortable being around each other, building chemistry and trust. Ultimately this could end up leading to a weekend getaway just the 3 or 4 of them culminating in several opportunities for them to take a series of steps closer to real physical intimacy that may or may not lead to actual foreplay and variations of sex.

Again, while I expect resistance from Sophia intentionally interested in that specific kind of closeness, I could see Ellie and Dylan bond over their shared physical attraction to Sophia, helped along and even encouraged in most cases by Patricia. Fingers crossed this actually becomes somewhat of an actual path for the 3 or 4 of them (if Patricia is included).

 

[Hlextor]

So I'm guessing a Sophia/Dylan/Ellie event is all but impossible if not highly unlikely?

These are the possible family paths:
Dylan/Sophia
Dylan/Sophia/Patricia
Dylan/Ellie
Ellie/Sophia
Ellie/Sophia/Patricia maybe... I don´t know

L&P currently rules out a threesome with Sophia/Ellie and Dylan. He does not want a harem for Dylan.

 

[hzjujk]

I too feel like there would be too many variables or issues between siblings to attempt such a taboo trinity, yet that doesn't make me want to see it as a viable path any less. Story-wise, I wouldn't propose Sophia intentionally work towards going down a path that leads specifically in a 3some. I would be interested in a possible storyline where Sophia considers ways on improving her children's relationship and budding sibling rivalry over her attention and ultimately erotic affections.

She then decides its in their best interest to create events/outings where they would both have chances to interact (Dylan and Ellie exclusively without distractions from their 'friends/lovers' though maybe occasionally bring along Auntie Patricia) and with her present. In this way they could put their differences aside, actually begin to bond and get comfortable being around each other, building chemistry and trust. Ultimately this could end up leading to a weekend getaway just the 3 or 4 of them culminating in several opportunities for them to take a series of steps closer to real physical intimacy that may or may not lead to actual foreplay and variations of sex.

Again, while I expect resistance from Sophia intentionally interested in that specific kind of closeness, I could see Ellie and Dylan bond over their shared physical attraction to Sophia, helped along and even encouraged in most cases by Patricia. Fingers crossed this actually becomes somewhat of an actual path for the 3 or 4 of them (if Patricia is included).

A threesome from Sophia / Elli / Dylan somehow looks as if this route was added later from the perspective of Sophia told. But that's just my very personal opinion.
On the other hand, I consider a threesome Sophia / Patricia / Dylan possible and if the perversion of the two women escalates and they repeatedly challenge each other, it is even inevitable. The only difference is that things won't go the way he imagined for Dylan: The two women use him as a sex toy.

 

[Scarlet56]

I have been wondering what town this story takes place in and what's in the water. From what I remember they moved from podunk country town to this city where quite naturally it seems, everyone want to sleep with Sophia
Her son. Daughter. Sister. Hairdresser. Maid. Neighbour(husband. Wife. Son. daughter). Hairdresser daughter. Principle. Teacher. Movers. Security guard. Bully. Mafia boss. Mafia brother. Shy schoolgirl. 3 boys. 2 old men. Museum kids. Park drunks. Thieves.
I believe the only person so far that doesn't want to sleep with her is; Cathy.

Amber too

I just played this game from the beginning again. Sophia had a lot of opportunities with the dicks but always stayed away. It would have been great if we had a lot of sex scenes. Still the game is great. Do you guys have any other recommendations like this game but with more sexual content?

Free pass or JOHN(no incest for this one)

 

[Alley_Cat]

So I'm guessing a Sophia/Dylan/Ellie event is all but impossible if not highly unlikely?

Let me put it this way - in the Ellie route I play, she is almost doing cartwheels that he is no longer around. I still find absolutely no evidence she has mellowed wanting to get rid of him since day 1.

Now that we know Christine is involved in the bonus storyline, I find it far more likely it involves Mr Bean/Wonderwoman than it does Dylan/Ellie. The previous information we had that Christine already has a boyfriend doesn't seem as important, since that was also true for Marie, yet Marie appears easily willing to dump hers for Dylan.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

These are the possible family paths:
Dylan/Sophia
Dylan/Sophia/Patricia
Dylan/Ellie
Ellie/Sophia
Ellie/Sophia/Patricia maybe... I don´t know

L&P currently rules out a threesome with Sophia/Ellie and Dylan. He does not want a harem for Dylan.

Sophia/Ellie/Julie looks like it will be a path too. Julie may be the substitute for Patricia.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Let me put it this way - in the Ellie route I play, she is almost doing cartwheels that he is no longer around. I still find absolutely no evidence she has mellowed wanting to get rid of him since day 1.

Now that we know Christine is involved in the bonus storyline, I find it far more likely it involves Mr Bean/Wonderwoman than it does Dylan/Ellie. The previous information we had that Christine already has a boyfriend doesn't seem as important, since that was also true for Marie, yet Marie appears easily willing to dump hers for Dylan.

I would have to disagree with you if you only limited yourself to playing one path only. For example, suppose you choose to play the Dylan/Ellie Side Story. The relationship between them starts to improve when Dylan helps with the repair of her laptop. Also, Ellie is snooping around Dylan's room, which tells me that she is trying to find out more about Dylan's likes and interests. Also, when they embrace and kiss on the cheek, you noticed that Ellie's attitude changes with Dylan.

So maybe in the path you play, she is doing "cartwheels," but that is far from the case. As the side story shows, Ellie is the aggressor here as she threatens to beat Dylan up if he doesn't help her, but Dylan plays it smooth and starts to walk away. Then she goes into the please help me out phase.

Also; In the shower scene between Sophia/Ellie with Dylan active in the storyline, there is a text about Dylan and the Viagra incident. If you haven't played it yet, here is a couple of screenshots. But something tells me you have seen or read about it because of the Mr.Bean/Wonder Woman comment.

Spoiler: Day 17 - Sophia/Ellie Shower Scene (Dylan Chat)

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[hzjujk]

This task suggestion has the great merit of "exposing" Sophia to the class without... exposing her directly, i.e. no direct show of breasts or other directly. That would be indeed very difficult to make it believable, especially as early as the 4th task.

Instead, through the lens of art, Sophia can experience the "thrill" of being exposed in public for the first time not to strangers but to people she knows very well. So far it happened with Larry, a person she met for the first time, in the sauna with other people + Vicky and boyfriend (him also a "stranger") and with the art boys (unknown + she was "incognito").
That would ease her in accepting this kind of situation for future events, whether it is with the class again (but we don't know) or in other circumstances.

As for the "pact", I don't know if I exactly got what you meant, but it seems to me that it would be crucial that the pact is formulated in terms of "complicity", to completely avoid another source of blackmailing from the other students. Very simply put, not saying "please, let this stay with us otherwise I could get fired" or "there will be more if you stay silent". I don't know how to exactly put it either, but something on the line of persuading them that this is a high expression of art and rationalizing nudity as a form of it. I'm not a writer, so sorry if I cannot expressing better than that.

The only minor issue is, again (and sorry if I sound like a broken record), the different endings of the 3rd task.
If that does not have any impact, then the painting would be Sophia as Helena because it is the only one that is common to the three outcomes. And for which we don't have an image of the painting in the game (Sophia sees the paintings but we don't), we only have this
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Otherwise the painting will be different according to the endings of the 3rd task, and there are multiple choices, with Aphrodite alone with exposed or covered breast,
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(we do not see the covered version)

Aphrodite and Ares with our without touch
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(again no pictures available of the other version)

There are also the two "fertile imagination" versions but that's maybe too much
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That would mean that the 4th task also will be split in 3 slightly different events according to which one is shown and the reactions will be slightly different.
Personally, I always favour simplicity, so I hope that it will be kept simple, e.g. if the Helena one is not enough hot as painting maybe one of the "imaginative" pupils has secretly painting a more intriguing version that has not been shown. Don't like retrofitting either, but in this case I prefer it over complexity.

Or, again against my personal taste, what if Aiden's path is actually meant to split in 3 different paths in which Sophia is (i) in control, (ii) in control but increasingly enjoying the tasks, (iii) increasingly feeling humiliated and getting angry with Aiden (leading to a possible "angry fuck" as proposed by GingerSweetGirl )?
Too much, right? Please reassure me guys

Just one thought on your Aiden Task 3 decision matrix. The matrix makes little sense for further extortion channels. From this point on, the developer would have to come up with different routes that differ further and further as the process progresses. But maybe it makes sense when using Morello's favor. L&P has said that the ability to end the blackmailing of Morello depends on previous decisions. If Sophia knows that Ares Aiden was hiding under the mask, when she was exposed to his gross sexual harassment, then maybe she will be afraid of not getting the whole blackmail story under control. Or at least get seriously damaged in the process. And the Morello option is available. In the other case, Sophia believes the thing is manageable and is also fun. And Morello option is not available.

 

[Френсис002]

could you give me a link where Dylan can win in the park ? I found one, but the game does not open after downloading .. should I wait for the new version to be released ? I hope that Dylan can win in the park in the Android version this time .. prosda nadaelo lose, no matter what I do( can you help me solve this problem ?((cry:

 

[Bane71]

could you give me a link where Dylan can win in the park ? I found one, but the game does not open after downloading .. should I wait for the new version to be released ? I hope that Dylan can win in the park in the Android version this time .. prosda nadaelo lose, no matter what I do( can you help me solve this problem ?()cry:

I'm just wondering how many people from those who visit this forum play on Android?
If I'm not mistaken, it's been said here on the forum more than once that everything is fine on Android, as well as on PC, Dylan manages to defeat a drunk man. Why it doesn't work only for you, it's not clear!
If it didn't work for others, then there would be a lot of complaints, but you might have noticed a long time ago that you are the only one with such a problem.

When you don't use the word bitch, at least your post can be read!

 

[Alex kryle]

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[Rojouninco1]

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[Crimsonfiend76]

These are the possible family paths:
Dylan/Sophia
Dylan/Sophia/Patricia
Dylan/Ellie
Ellie/Sophia
Ellie/Sophia/Patricia maybe... I don´t know

L&P currently rules out a threesome with Sophia/Ellie and Dylan. He does not want a harem for Dylan.

Seriously, there's an actual Dylan/Ellie path? I would almost be content even if there is no Dylan/Ellie/Sophia, just to see them finally become close and no longer hostile, as long as Ellie doesn't go all tsundere on Dylan.

I would disagree that it would be a Dylan harem since he still technically is introverted and shy around the girls he isn't related to, so if he 'practiced' on them, it's not like he'll magically have a harem overnight if at all. Best case scenario, he beds Sophia, Ellie and maybe Patricia, but considering all the available L.I. I wouldn't call it a harem per se.

In my current PT, I avoided the Emma hookup, because personally I think he can do better, and I'd rather her keep her crush on Sophia (the true harem hero). Outside of his interest in Marie, which is one-sided at the moment, he's single so for any harem to happen, he'd need to add Christine, Emma, Marie, Claire and even Amber, not to mention ridiculous levels of suspension of disbelief.

Let me put it this way - in the Ellie route I play, she is almost doing cartwheels that he is no longer around. I still find absolutely no evidence she has mellowed wanting to get rid of him since day 1.

Now that we know Christine is involved in the bonus storyline, I find it far more likely it involves Mr Bean/Wonderwoman than it does Dylan/Ellie. The previous information we had that Christine already has a boyfriend doesn't seem as important, since that was also true for Marie, yet Marie appears easily willing to dump hers for Dylan.

In one of my early PT's where I sent him to boarding school, I also got the feeling she was beyond ecstatic, almost cruelly so IMO, at not having an inconvenient brother around the house, especially as it meant she had carte blanche for pool time with her girls (including her secret girlfriend) and unlimited mom-shower time. It was that kind of over zealous/callous attitude that immediately made me make a Dylan PT to balance out what was essentially on only daughter/Ellie PT.

As far as Christine goes, kinda messed up she was all in for pranking Dylan, but now is willing to at least fool around with him if not be a possible girlfriend option should he want to pursue it? Yeah I'm still bitter about that, plus just not as attracted to her as much as I would be to Marie. I'm playing Dylan holding out for Sophia/Patricia as a secret/private girlfriend with Marie as a potential public girlfriend. I'd even be willing to have Claire attempt to seduce him while competing with Marie.

I would have to disagree with you if you only limited yourself to playing one path only. For example, suppose you choose to play the Dylan/Ellie Side Story. The relationship between them starts to improve when Dylan helps with the repair of her laptop. Also, Ellie is snooping around Dylan's room, which tells me that she is trying to find out more about Dylan's likes and interests. Also, when they embrace and kiss on the cheek, you noticed that Ellie's attitude changes with Dylan.

So maybe in the path you play, she is doing "cartwheels," but that is far from the case. As the side story shows, Ellie is the aggressor here as she threatens to beat Dylan up if he doesn't help her, but Dylan plays it smooth and starts to walk away. Then she goes into the please help me out phase.

Also; In the shower scene between Sophia/Ellie with Dylan active in the storyline, there is a text about Dylan and the Viagra incident. If you haven't played it yet, here is a couple of screenshots. But something tells me you have seen or read about it because of the Mr.Bean/Wonder Woman comment.

Spoiler: Day 17 - Sophia/Ellie Shower Scene (Dylan Chat)

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Thanks for including that, I somehow either blanked out on or missed that specific exchange. It may be circumstantial, but it could be justification for this Ellie/Dylan path that now I'm dying to explore. I'd like to know outside of repairing the laptop, what are the other triggers for this route?

 

[bayrischman]

Developer Going fast .....

,wow, what a rapid snail,s pace . almost nothing progrssed in 3 weeks.,

 

[utkarsh123he]

,wow, what a rapid snail,s pace . almost nothing progrssed in 3 weeks.,

no man he has really picked up speed recently. Earlier the game was estimated to be complete in 35 years. Now it has come down to only 30 years

 

[lockerxx]

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is moving!!! sorry i was playing mass effect 2 with all the Dlc for the first time