VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Poser_Voyeur]

You mean the scene where in spite of how much of a bitch she treats Dylan, he still fixes her laptop, all while snooping in his room because he can't trusted in hers, yet she continues to go through all his drawers, under his bed, and snoops everywhere she can while accusing him of being a nosy perv. and taunting him about being a virgin and no girl will want to be with him..., yes, I did get to that scene.

Between that and the beach prank, she really makes it hard to like her in spite of how hot her and Jules are together and her showers with Sophia. I'm almost tempted to do a run where she doesn't kiss Julia ends up with Elena while she avoids that path altogether.

Hi

Given where you had said previously you had got to at that point in time, I was trying very hard not to talk too much of what was coming up so as not to give any advance spoilers for your first playthrough.

Yes - I did mean that scene. First thing I should say is that, to the best of my recollection, we still don't know in game quite why Ellie seems to hate Dylan at the very start of the story so vehemently. Various people have speculated on why that might be but I don't want to go back over that - maybe it might be clarified by L&P in future, maybe it will remain just setting out the story opening.

Then moving forward in the storyline re beach Viagra prank, again yes I think Ellie totally overcompensated and Sophia was surprisingly lenient - again that particular prank has been discussed many times before and I don't want to provoke yet further discussion on it - just noting that I agree with your criticism of Ellie for the beach prank.

So what I want to focus on is Dylan fixing her laptop, and yes Ellie is still being a bit of a bitch to Dylan and yes she is annoyingly snooping round his room. But overall I seem to come away from that scene with a different overall impression that you did. To me it is the first time that Dylan acts more mature than he had been earlier in the story. He does nt get provoked by her jibes, and at the end, all he wants in payment for his efforts is an affectionate hug and thanks from his sister. That is progress from Dylan's perspective.

And also look at Ellie's reaction to Dylan - it feels to me as the turning point in their relationship. I don't know if we will ever get any sexual scenes between Dylan and Ellie, but if we do then it will be based on storylines starting from this scene.

We might get a sense of that in the next update when we have already seen the preview of Dylan with Ellie and Christiine in the back garden seating area. Maybe that might lead to Ellie setting Dylan up with Christine - to me that is not something that could have happened before the laptop repair scene.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Thanks for including that, I somehow either blanked out on or missed that specific exchange. It may be circumstantial, but it could be justification for this Ellie/Dylan path that now I'm dying to explore. I'd like to know outside of repairing the laptop, what are the other triggers for this route?

As long as you did the bathroom scene with Sophia when Dylan is in the shower and didn't remind Dylan to lock the door when Sophia left, and you play the beach scene with Dylan and Sophia with the Viagra, you should get these scenes to trigger their side event. Oh, and don't send him to boarding school either.

And in the evening on the next P.D. (13), there is an evening event that you will have to choose between Sophia/Dylan or Dylan/Ellie. There is a strong possibility that it will cancel other relationship routes in the future. So you may want to have 2 different saves at this point to explore both paths.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Seriously, there's an actual Dylan/Ellie path? I would almost be content even if there is no Dylan/Ellie/Sophia, just to see them finally become close and no longer hostile, as long as Ellie doesn't go all tsundere on Dylan.

I would disagree that it would be a Dylan harem since he still technically is introverted and shy around the girls he isn't related to, so if he 'practiced' on them, it's not like he'll magically have a harem overnight if at all. Best case scenario, he beds Sophia, Ellie and maybe Patricia, but considering all the available L.I. I wouldn't call it a harem per se.

In my current PT, I avoided the Emma hookup, because personally I think he can do better, and I'd rather her keep her crush on Sophia (the true harem hero). Outside of his interest in Marie, which is one-sided at the moment, he's single so for any harem to happen, he'd need to add Christine, Emma, Marie, Claire and even Amber, not to mention ridiculous levels of suspension of disbelief.

Right now, L&P is locking harems out. So you will most likely have to choose a particular woman when you come to a crossroads. In the current version, an example of this is when you send Dylan to boarding school, it becomes the Dylan/Amber show or if Sophia chooses Dylan/Emma. Both these paths stop Dylan/Sophia. Also; In the next P.D. (13), you will have the option in the evening to choose among Sopha/Dylan or Dylan/Ellie or Dylan/Emma. Dylan/Emma already canceled out Sophia/Dylan, and Dylan/Ellie will likely cancel out Sophia/Dylan too.

The closes thing you may get to a harem at this point is the hints of threesomes with certain combos. Sophia/Dylan/Patricia.

 

[xxxorro]

is moving!!! sorry i was playing mass effect 2 with all the Dlc for the first time

you are playing with fire!!! If we get the update only next year you'll be the one to blame, you know?

 

[xxxorro]

In the next P.D. (13), you will have the option in the evening to choose among Sopha/Dylan or Dylan/Ellie or Dylan/Emma. Dylan/Emma already canceled out Sophia/Dylan, and Dylan/Ellie will likely cancel out Sophia/Dylan too.

Also, if this L&P's quote is still valid

All I can say is that there are some really hot scenes planned for the next 3 playable days. Especially end of playable day 13 and 14! Of course we're talking here about more and much more daring scenes then we got now. Mostly hetero. And of course in the future too.

at least one of the three events could be an "interesting" event
(unless it refers to the Sophia/Dylan happening before the 3 parallel events you mention)

Just one thought on your Aiden Task 3 decision matrix. The matrix makes little sense for further extortion channels. From this point on, the developer would have to come up with different routes that differ further and further as the process progresses. But maybe it makes sense when using Morello's favor. L&P has said that the ability to end the blackmailing of Morello depends on previous decisions. If Sophia knows that Ares Aiden was hiding under the mask, when she was exposed to his gross sexual harassment, then maybe she will be afraid of not getting the whole blackmail story under control. Or at least get seriously damaged in the process. And the Morello option is available. In the other case, Sophia believes the thing is manageable and is also fun. And Morello option is not available.

To be clear, I just put that on the table for discussion. As I said, I always favour simplicity and I'd rather avoid new branches that make the game complex. At the same time, for the sake of speculation, we cannot completely neglect that, maybe it won't have major consequences on the game (branches), just some different dialogues that somehow fix the gap and bring the 3 onto a common path again (wishful thinking here ). Or maybe nothing at all (but it will be strange).
My post was just a "But what if?" and a "let's leave no stone unturned"

As for Morello, I think the conditions to be met are those concerning Larry and how far Sophia went with him. Again, multiple endings exist even for that, depending on how many Larry's points you get. Probably getting to the "cumare" status (i.e. she shows the breasts) **could** be, e.g. the threshold/condition. I seem to remember that KillJoys once said that it could be even much less than that.
Anyways, it's just to rectify that getting Morello's help depends on Sophia/Larry.
Then, the possibility that Sophia can ask Morello to end Aiden's extortion depending on the endings of the 3rd task is indeed interesting and it makes sense story-wise.
Maybe this will piss off those who are playing Aiden's Path only because required by other storylines and they don't want to see much of the event (i.e. stopping at Helena's pose). Also it increases a bit the complexity being the combination of different endings of two different events/storylines (again, it's my entropy-phobia speaking ). For sure if the whole story were just Aiden and Morello it definitely has merit IMO.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

Hi

Given where you had said previously you had got to at that point in time, I was trying very hard not to talk too much of what was coming up so as not to give any advance spoilers for your first playthrough.

Yes - I did mean that scene. First thing I should say is that, to the best of my recollection, we still don't know in game quite why Ellie seems to hate Dylan at the very start of the story so vehemently. Various people have speculated on why that might be but I don't want to go back over that - maybe it might be clarified by L&P in future, maybe it will remain just setting out the story opening.

Then moving forward in the storyline re beach Viagra prank, again yes I think Ellie totally overcompensated and Sophia was surprisingly lenient - again that particular prank has been discussed many times before and I don't want to provoke yet further discussion on it - just noting that I agree with your criticism of Ellie for the beach prank.

So what I want to focus on is Dylan fixing her laptop, and yes Ellie is still being a bit of a bitch to Dylan and yes she is annoyingly snooping round his room. But overall I seem to come away from that scene with a different overall impression that you did. To me it is the first time that Dylan acts more mature than he had been earlier in the story. He does nt get provoked by her jibes, and at the end, all he wants in payment for his efforts is an affectionate hug and thanks from his sister. That is progress from Dylan's perspective.

And also look at Ellie's reaction to Dylan - it feels to me as the turning point in their relationship. I don't know if we will ever get any sexual scenes between Dylan and Ellie, but if we do then it will be based on storylines starting from this scene.

We might get a sense of that in the next update when we have already seen the preview of Dylan with Ellie and Christiine in the back garden seating area. Maybe that might lead to Ellie setting Dylan up with Christine - to me that is not something that could have happened before the laptop repair scene.

The only clue we are given why Ellie 'hates' Dylan is her justification for the prank, specifically, he purportedly groped her (we only have her word on this, not his), previously called her a slut, and the final straw was the bathroom incident, which even after Sophia admitted too, Ellie still refused to back down and be apologetic.

Despite my initial disgust with Ellie's behavior first demanding help to fix her laptop to her hypocritical behavior accusing Dylan for the same behavior she exhibits while in his room, I did walk away with a slightly optimistic change in her impression of Dylan. I did notice for once, he had more self-confidence and did not allow her to get him flustered or to dominate as she may be used to dealing with him. I loved the fact he called her out on her shit and gave it right back to her. I did see her shock and suspicion on his payment for his services, an actual apology and normal sibling affection in the form of a chaste hug and kiss on the cheek.

Given how she visually and physically she loosens up after the embrace and for once not have a sneer on her face when talking to him, makes it appear she is softening her position on him and maybe willing to start to lower that wall she's put up between them. While I personally don't like Christine, it would be interesting if Ellie talks to her friend about Dylan to get an idea how she really feels about him and if she should set them up. I would love it even more if while setting up an impromptu event where Christine comes over to hang out while Dylan is around for her to talk to/flirt with, Ellie finds herself becoming increasingly annoyed with their banter and Christine's obvious flirtatious interaction leading her to question why it bothers her so much until the conversation in the shower with Sophia replayed in her head and it dawns on her maybe she is jealous any other female getting too close to Dylan. She may try to play it off as just over-protectiveness, though considering their adversarial interactions in the past, she knows that's probably not entirely true.

Right now, L&P is locking harems out. So you will most likely have to choose a particular woman when you come to a crossroads. In the current version, an example of this is when you send Dylan to boarding school, it becomes the Dylan/Amber show or if Sophia chooses Dylan/Emma. Both these paths stop Dylan/Sophia. Also; In the next P.D. (13), you will have the option in the evening to choose among Sopha/Dylan or Dylan/Ellie or Dylan/Emma. Dylan/Emma already canceled out Sophia/Dylan, and Dylan/Ellie will likely cancel out Sophia/Dylan too.

The closes thing you may get to a harem at this point is the hints of threesomes with certain combos. Sophia/Dylan/Patricia.

Just out of curiosity, what is the supposed 'secret' that comes out as a result of sending the boys to boarding school? Looking through the WT, it mentions some dark secret that comes to light, but doesn't specify what it is, and in my only save game where I sent him to boarding school, I only got as far as the yoga event.

Wow so Dylan/Amber becomes an actual option? She's kind of been out of the story completely, especially with Alyssa there to take her place as an optional bi-curious fling for Sophia. Hopefully Emma comes back as a side option for Sophia if we chose against hooking her up with Dylan.

I can begrudgingly accept the Sophia/Dylan/Patricia 3some if an actual path is not available. I still want to explore Ellie/Dylan either with someone else or just them exclusively.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Just out of curiosity, what is the supposed 'secret' that comes out as a result of sending the boys to boarding school? Looking through the WT, it mentions some dark secret that comes to light, but doesn't specify what it is, and in my only save game where I sent him to boarding school, I only got as far as the yoga event.

Wow so Dylan/Amber becomes an actual option? She's kind of been out of the story completely, especially with Alyssa there to take her place as an optional bi-curious fling for Sophia. Hopefully Emma comes back as a side option for Sophia if we chose against hooking her up with Dylan.

I can begrudgingly accept the Sophia/Dylan/Patricia 3some if an actual path is not available. I still want to explore Ellie/Dylan either with someone else or just them exclusively.

I really want to avoid this topic about the "Dark Secret" as it's been discussed over the last couple of years, and to most Dylan Fans, it is controversial. But here you go... You can read it for yourself.

Spoiler: .........

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start on this page and read for about 30 pages to get the details.

The Dylan/Emma option may actually be Sophia/Emma. We'll have to see how that story plays out.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

Is there a yawn emoji anywhere?

Too tired to come up with more BS? Figured.

 

[Posls]

Is it possible that the mother can fuck another man? Like Sam

 

[roberto1982]

Is it possible that the mother can fuck another man? Like Sam

Of course not what kind of game do you think it is

 

[Talcum Powder]

Too tired to come up with more BS? Figured.

It’s not that I’m tired, it’s that our discussion is tired. It’s devolved to the point where we’re arguing about the right name for the very particular shade of brown that the turd of an idea about the vibrator being the next task is.

 

[Adolfo]

It’s not that I’m tired, it’s that our discussion is tired. It’s devolved to the point where we’re arguing about the right name for the very particular shade of brown that the turd of an idea about the vibrator being the next task is.

In the decades it will take for the game to complete the same questions will be discussed and debates over and over again

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

It’s not that I’m tired, it’s that our discussion is tired. It’s devolved to the point where we’re arguing about the right name for the very particular shade of brown that the turd of an idea about the vibrator being the next task is.

Yeah I figured you wimp out when you couldn't even refute any thing I said and just started making stuff up.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Yeah I figured you wimp out when you couldn't even refute any thing I said and just started making stuff up.

Dude, give it a rest, it’s not about whether or not we can go tet-a-tet forever, we could. It’s that we’re not contributing anything to the discussion of AWAM-related topics. Vibrator is a dumb idea. No it isn’t and I proved it. You didn’t prove anything. Yes I did. Whatever.

The forum has moved on, let’s move with it.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

Dude, give it a rest, it’s not about whether or not we can go tet-a-tet forever, we could. It’s that we’re not contributing anything to the discussion of AWAM-related topics. Vibrator is a dumb idea. No it isn’t and I proved it. You didn’t prove anything. Yes I did. Whatever.

The forum has moved on, let’s move with it.

Give what a rest? I was just replying to what you said or rather didn't say. If you're incapable of having a constructive argument then maybe it's you who should give it a rest.

 

[Posls]

Of course not what kind of game do you think it is

Because I been I'm like on the second week and she haven't fuck anyone

 

[proxyto]

I did not get it when is the next update?

 

[Adolfo]

I did not get it when is the next update?

End of octuber with luck.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I did not get it when is the next update?

not before christmas

 

[omegatours]

I love it