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I think it would actually be a good thing if Ivan and the movers were there. It would help tie the story together and keep characters involved.
- Nov 14, 2020
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Wow! That feels somewhat unexpected.
We have been discussing for a while now the meaning of Sam's line chatting with Sophia that the concert was at "one of those bars at the beach", along with L&P's subsequent description of the venue as a rock bar. Various people had focussed on the beach element, and others on the rock element. But there was seemingly a broad consensus that we were expecting a bar that a young rock band could play at that was on/at/by/near the beach. Not what we have been shown so far in the above preview. It is possible that the actual venue is a different place next to or opposite "Bob's Country Bunker" shown in the preview.
I will also defer to more knowledgeable Daz afficionadoes as to whether there is much variety of suitable bar fronts that are readily available. This might have been the best choice from a bad set of Daz asset options. But I was nt expecting this.
And, knowing if this was the venue, it makes the choice of including the romper suit with the "boob pockets" as an option in the Patreon Poll even more surprising.....
Trying to find some shred of realism to cling to until we see for sure what the venue is like once the update released, there are five motorbikes outside. I am no motorbike expert but at first glance these look like decent bikes such as Harley Davidson's. Now whilst I might immediately think Hells Angels, then it is still possible that these might be expensive bikes ridden by middle class office workers. i.e. I am trying not to think of this automatically as a "biker bar" that we have seen depicted in various Hollywood films and TV series as being rough and ready to say the least.
I am hoping that this preview picture is slightly misleading and that when we see the update, we will look back at this preview and laugh at L&P for playing with our expectations. If so then great - I don't mind an occasional misdirect from a preview.
But at the moment I am having a hard time not simply looking at that preview and saying "What the frak" to myself....
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In terms of "Bob's Country Bunker" being the best of a bad choice, I don't believe so. I've tried my usual tricks to find the asset, but have been unable to so far, and there are numerous obvious assets that L&P could have used, one just by the beach, as we were lead to believe the event would be.
Next update will be a Nat event, Bonus Storyline, the Concert, and then Cathy/Andy.
- Apr 23, 2017
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Cathy/Andy meeting with Liam/Sophia or maybe just Liam only, if Sophia is tied up with "The other guy" event. That will be the last event for the P.D.
- Nov 14, 2020
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I am trying really, really hard not to overact to that preview. I deliberately waited a few hours after seeing the preview just before lunch, and tried hard to not just rant as my initial reaction. I am trying to look at it as that the actual concert event may not be what mine (and seemingly other's) initial reaction to it was. I certainly could have used far stronger language than "surprised".
I don't know how many further updates to this game we are realistically going to get, given recent time to issue updates and the ever increasing complexity of routes and options within the VN. When we get to whatever stage we get the actual end to this story, whenever that my be, I just hope that we look back and think the end of this story was just as high a quality, both artistically and also storyline wise, as we would currently say about the beginning. I just hope that this VN finishes on a high and that our expectations have been broadly me, or even exceeded.
The caveat is that obviously I still hope that we have many more updates to come, and that these future updates come more regularly and frequently than the most recent series of updates.
But for the first time I can feel that slight twinge of nervousness as to how this storyline might unfold in the near future. That we go from straining or stretching the boundaries or realism / plausibility and start breaking them more and more.
That we lose what made this VN special by having to cater to (Patreon members) expectations of what content they wish to see,
- Feb 14, 2018
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Perhaps something will occur when Patricia is distractingly flirting with one of the members of the band (just some jabroni in the bar)?Aiden won't be there, notice they're all custom, shall we say Harley-Davidson style.
Second, the lights are on, after concert will be dark. So, no beach.
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We have the whole band, 4 members and L&P could avoid direct contact between sisters and band members. Maybe Patricia will stay a little longer, to celebrate, in this bar or another, ALL together. Would be great, 4 boys and 2 sisters
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Dr.Fapalot could you ask L&P if Patricia will stay a little longer?
- Jun 11, 2020
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I would like to see Patricia tease her sister and start flirting with Sam to try and make her jealous & then they can both try to out tease each other around him and definately some girl on girl action between them , but if they did that during the concert that would distract the whole band from playing. maybe they go up on stage and dirty dance around him, of course the bikers are going to be chanting for the sisters to keep kissing and strip
I wasn't going to say any more because that outfit just gets on my nerves more & more but the following may be of interest. One of my neighbours went out with a biker who was a millionaire's son but who was also a full member of one of the UK's most powerful bike gangs. (I'm talking 1970s here). He had a 1947 Harley, which he took everywhere the gang went, in a Hertz rental truck. He could easily afford to ride something else. Biker levels of wealth are like the gangs....unpredictable.
You're talking about Germany & you paint a completely true picture. Even though it's 40-odd years since I drank at any bar, inn or club in that nation, I remember how civilised everything was. As a complete stranger & foreigner, I was still trusted to run up a bar tab in some places & this was in the big city!
There was, back then, a remarkable difference in the ambience from what I was used to in my own country, where many pubs & bars harboured a truly sinister atmosphere of impending havoc. On a weekend, it was often a question of when, not if, this would break out. Some places, you just didn't go in, unless you numbered in the dozens. Gangs of us, who wouldn't so much as speak most of the time, would form up at a convenient spot to become a huge gang, in the interests of strength in numbers.
I don't imagine a city the size of San Alejo wouldn't contain 'safe' bars but let's be honest, what we've been shown doesn't look like one so far. I don't believe the atmosphere would be much different from the UK.
I like to think that it's Ivan's truck & that they're just coincidently passing by....
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Agreed! The best parts of AWAM have been how she is slowly and realistically drawn toward her sexual freedom. Not sure so much now.
I think we're missing each other's points here. Biker gangs are often made up of initiated members who have opted for a life outside the norms of society. There are all kinds of bike gangs & the members come from all walks of life but there is no way for us to know what kind of biker is in the bar, if indeed this is the venue, which because the van is parked outside, I assume it is.
Bands like Sam's don't have roadies to cart their gear & set it up, so parking close makes sense. Some gangs contain members who would voluntarily help with the band's gear, while others have people who would sneer at these "amateurs." Some gangs have members who would escort the women politely into the bar & 'look after them.' (That would include fending off Sam, once the gang had staked its' claim. Good luck to anyone who might try to speak to them, let alone chat them up). Some gang members I know of do charity work, while another I worked with killed a rival gang member with a sawn-off shotgun & served years for it.
What I'm saying & have said elsewhere, is that bike gangs are not predictable. There are no more "typical" bikers, than there are typical priests. One thing that tends to be true is that they see themselves as outsiders & not constrained by societal norms. Some are gentlemen, some are absolutely scary.
What I do know is this. You do not walk into a bar wearing a romper suit. Full stop, period.
- Jan 30, 2021
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The real question: Is this the Bar? We do not know it for sure. It is a bar! There are many bars and venues in most beach areas. Most share the parking lots. So, this may not be the bar just L&P messing with us for a laugh.
Now, that being said, Is this a real biker bar? If it is, as has been pointed out, they don't back their bikes in. This is not hinting at a hard core biker establishment. Not the Hell's Angels, Diablos, Bandidos, or Nomads, etc, etc... . So could it be a biker bar for all the rich people who like to get the 40k Harley, a couple of stylish Tats, and then go to a bar with their friends and act like bikers while sipping chardonnay or Glenfiddich. These places do exist and Sam and his band could get in there by contacts or just reasonable skill. Now in this case the event would be as many previously theorized. It is not a fight club on steroids it is just a place for the wanna bees to rub elbows with other wanna bees.
If it is a real biker bar. Sam will know exactly where his guitar is. Walking may be an issue but he will have his guitar. The rest of his band, meh! Patricia will be busy backing her and Sophia out before they become the dessert for the patrons. This would be bad juju. So not likely L&P will take this path.
Ergo, I see two options: One; He is having a good laugh messing with us as this is just another bar in the area. Two; This is not a real biker bar but a bar where middle and upper class people come to share their love of motorcycles and play act a bit.
If I am wrong, and he is trying a real biker bar, he is definitely a few fries short of a happy meal. Just Sayin'!
- Apr 21, 2020
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If you pay attention, you will notice that my first post after the appearance of this render speaks of my excitement, probably for the very reasons that you have described.
But then I calmed down, because I myself have repeatedly called realism in AWAM conditional, after all, this is not a pure novel, but a porn game with a realistic plot. Therefore, we all need to understand that the realism of this plot is quite conditional.
All of us, fans of AWAM, are experiencing to one degree or another because each of us is immersed in the story and is waiting for the continuation. This gives L&P the opportunity to manipulate and twist the intrigue to some extremes, as in this case.
And despite the fact that someone likes it, and someone does not, L&P does everything right, otherwise we would not have discussed with you and were bored perceiving AWAM as many other porn games.
- Aug 23, 2020
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The thing is everyone, at some point something has to happen. I know we complain about the sense of realism slipping away while the corruption and pacing increase, but maybe it's an impossible balancing act. This game has been in development for 3+ years, and even the most hardcore fans will admit that it's getting tiresome. Many of us have complained about the pacing and that the story requires that Sophia's corruption gains momentum. And now that we're seeing it on PD 12, we're concerned that we're losing the sense of realism. It all feels unfair because we're putting ourselves in a lose-lose situation. In-game we're a week away from Sophia having her first extramarital affair...(sexy) stuff needs to start happening pronto in order for her to make that leap in fewer than 7 days. Meanwhile, we're only getting (MAYBE) two updates a year. Do you really want to play a game with the pacing of PD 9 or 10 while only getting 2 updates a year? I don't want that.
At some point this is a game, a sexy visual novel, but a game just the same. Putting aside the tutoring side job for a second, at some point this is a game where sex is going to happen- and that's going to include unrealistic sex. Maybe we just need to be more liberal about suspending our disbelief about things like biker bars and pigeons. I know that I'm still going to be critical of some things, and I will always hate the romper, but we adjust our expectations between pacing and realism. Without time jumps, a (roughly) 30-day window to devolve into a woman who has sex with her children is already insane. So there's an implicit understanding that some wild stuff is going to happen and that we just need to roll with it.
At some point this is a game, a sexy visual novel, but a game just the same. Putting aside the tutoring side job for a second, at some point this is a game where sex is going to happen- and that's going to include unrealistic sex. Maybe we just need to be more liberal about suspending our disbelief about things like biker bars and pigeons. I know that I'm still going to be critical of some things, and I will always hate the romper, but we adjust our expectations between pacing and realism. Without time jumps, a (roughly) 30-day window to devolve into a woman who has sex with her children is already insane. So there's an implicit understanding that some wild stuff is going to happen and that we just need to roll with it.