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When you maximize your efforts by catering to what the market wants then ofcourse you are going to have people supporting you. Though I have nothing against him making tons of money even while giving poor quality renders. I for one need the quality. If I am playing the game of the biggest dev of the industry and I get such renders it is going to be extremely disappointing.
I need the quality in the renders of the games I play. If the renders have zero attention to detail and the visuals aren't appealing. I can just go and read the script because visually the game is only making me regret.
If this is the quality of renders then I can easily see L&P and majority Dev's pump out 5000+ renders in 6 months. It's no longer surprising. It's literally load the scene, put the characters, hit the render button. And since renders don't have any attention to details the same would apply for animations. All I can imagine them to be is extremely smooth and great motion because of a high frame rate, everything else still would look like this.
And seeing this my respect for Decentmonkey increases. They don't have such contrasts in render quality and pay attention to details and have tons of animation work all in good quality. The production work is definitely far superior.
in truth if quantity means killing quality then I don't want it.
And anyone who says that what's the point of quality artwork when you don't care about it then it's just your opinion. As some who primarily watches animated media more animation and art quality create a world of difference. In present date some of the popular shows are popular just because of outstanding artwork. Disney spends so heavily on quality, so do the Japanese anime industry only because there is a desire to give something high quality and it definitely reaps benefits.
L&P' s quality is not a waste. One of the prime reasons for him having less patrons is his slow development speed and lack of extremely hot content. That's primarily because the story has not approached it's high point it. What still causes lots of people to talk and play this game is the quality of art and story.
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I'm sorry but what a load of crap when you say L&P would pump 5000+ renders in 6 months if that was the quality of his renders.
L&P NEVER PUMPED 5000+ RENDERS IN 6 MONTHS even when his renders where below in quality. Ever. He always had a slow pace, even when he did normal renders, and it's getting slower and slower.
And if the games need such quality for yourself to play, I wonder how you kept playing AWAM after encountering less quality renders in the first half of the story.
Don't come with hypothetical bs trying to defend your point.
- Sep 23, 2020
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From a technical standpoint L&P's initial renders too are far better than the crap I saw from Badik's renders whereyou can't differentiate the door from the floor and numerous other examples
And when he delivered renders initially that was the best he could do as he was learning it all on his own. The present L&P knows enough to easily make something this far below standard and 100% pump out 5000 such sub par renders. If an artist just makes 1 third class render on his first day of daz doesn't mean that even after 10 years of experience he will still be able to make only 1 third class render in the whole day. For one that person would be able to make high quality art and still deliver 4-5 renders and if he is asked to make renders of the same quality as his first day, he would easily be able to 20-30 of them. Listen to your logic man. It makes no sense.
I don't makeup stuff and say BS. It's evident. I have seen Dev's with 100 patrons do better art than that for their games. BaDik might have a good story and great game mechanics but it is blatantly evident where he gets the time for that.
I started playing 3d games with no regard for render quality, I didn't even know those pictures were called renders and this the game that changed the standards for me. I used to be content with the quality of Devin's life because I didn't know better. L&P initial renders still had effects and details to them, they weren't poor quality. They don't hold a candle to what he can do now but they aren't all that bad. Just because something isn't shiny and eye soothing doesn't mean it is bad.
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Dude, it’s a good game. You’re missing out on a lot of fun, a lot of fun characters and situations. And the tennis.OK, maybe I can make a porn game with renders using Filament and who knows, make more money than DPC.
Good to know
- Feb 14, 2018
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Never is taking a straw man argument: no one seriously thinks BaDIK has better artwork, no one is saying that as far as I can tell. It’s completely disingenuous to argue the point.
Either you've got a really poor deduction ability, or you're spamming lies to propagate your agenda. In the first quote, he implicitly says "at some parts of the game", and in the second quote it's obvious he refers to the art creation. Where's the contradiction here? We know he works with someone on the translation part, and he's got a programmer for the DOL part.
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Another obvios lie. An average of 4,250$ (impressive indeed) is nowhere close to what L&P makes in 5 months. Even if you compare what DPC spends on music in 5 months to what L&P earns in 1 month (which isn't comparable and only a troll would do), that's probably less then 1/2. Far from "almost".
But what do you care? For you It's only an opportunity to spam here...
One that I remember here.
it will now be a private feud between viperdonkey and saabertoth. sophia is the best . then comes isabella from being a dik.
We cannot say that DPC does not reuse assets
Let's take a look at this one
The sheet covering the two, you can clearly see the triangles and the edges. It's not the most successful simulation and the resolution is low. You save time.
Let's take a look at this one
The sheet covering the two, you can clearly see the triangles and the edges. It's not the most successful simulation and the resolution is low. You save time.
In the US some doors are narrower, OK , but should at least be aligned to the wall surface. 3 doors each aligned to a different wall, but we only have one wall
Seems like something done in a hurry.
, but should at least be aligned to the wall surface. 3 doors each aligned to a different wall, but we only have one wall Seems like something done in a hurry.
- May 9, 2019
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Just thinking out loud, this game is slow whatever anyone says differently, the content is not worth 4yrs ( soon to be). No hate nor complaining, just facts and yeah DPC is a genius, period.
Going through the images in ep7 I draw some conclusions:
1. Kim Kardashian is more popular than a lot of women much more beautiful than her. That a game is popular doesn't mean it's the best at everything. I think most of Badik's patrons are teenagers.
2. Beautiful characters, face first.
3. Skin is not important, some characters have poor quality skins.
4. Except characters, the rest is very unimportant for most players.
I think a text at the beginning of a scene like:
"We are on a beach
but nothing would be seen around would be acceptable to most Badik patrons"Facts? Not worth 4 yrs is an opinion! My opinion is different than yours. That doesn't mean I don't want it to be faster just like you and everyone else.
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Just wondering how this thread was once a happy place to discuss future updates and exchange ideas. Now, it has turned into a clusterfuck. I'm not complaining, as I kinda enjoy it. But why so much trolling and hating? After all, we're all here to fap.
My opinion is a bit different. They started criticizing minor things, praising the work of others which should be proven.
I think there should have been a response, to restore order to things.
One is faster but sacrificing quality. We could compare this to a food product, cheaper but with many E's.
I think a comparison with DPC needs more arguments not just the number of renders. It is very possible that the lighting system used by L&P is 5-10 times more time consuming than the one used by DPC (when it exists
).Here an open window but no lights, no shadows, a background .... I don't know where a wall begins and ends
I think I need glasses .Even without glasses I can see an armchair in Low Poly
My PC won't let me play too much with renders/lights but we have a few in the forum that might give hints about the time needed.
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Problem is that there's nothing here to fap