VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[GingerSweetGirl]

So I’ve been thinking about the upcoming episode with Nathalie: how far are they going to go? I think we’re all ready for a demonstration of cunning linguistics but also know full well that ain’t going to happen. Will it go as far as Julia by the pool? If so great, and that would represent progress on that particular storyline, but it would not be a step forward overall, simply bringing one relationship on par with another. With the crazy progression of the second side job one has reason to hope for a similar amount of lewdidity, I suppose…

sigh…

There almost has to be major progress with Nat, otherwise what's the point? The second side job has recontextualized everything, there's no excuse for the lack of progression with major side characters now. If Sophia jerks off her students then lewd behavior with all side characters needs to be on the menu. If there's no action with Natalie aside from fabric touching then it's a waste of time and it's just further proof that L&P favors the second side job inordinately.

 

[Talcum Powder]

There almost has to be major progress with Nat, otherwise what's the point? The second side job has recontextualized everything, there's no excuse for the lack of progression with major side characters now. If Sophia jerks off her students then lewd behavior with all side characters needs to be on the menu. If there's no action with Natalie aside from fabric touching then it's a waste of time and it's just further proof that L&P favors the second side job inordinate ways.

Yes, it's exactly that: Among other things, she's let a teenage Julia have at her nipples and do some ice play while french kissing. She's manhandled pubescent pepes after knowing them for a total of about four hours, she's talked her daughter through to orgasm, and she rode Alyssa's sybian - someone she's known for about two and a half weeks at that point in the story? (I'm not female and don't know too much about sharing sex toys, but pretty comfortable in my assumption that ladies don't generally share on a casual basis, right?) So yeah, there has to be something more than, well, more than what we've already seen, anyway. Surely.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

It's especially important that Natalie makes progress because we aren't going to see her for a while after this. If we go another year before we see her again (if not longer) and she doesn't make any progress with Sophia in this update, then she should just be dropped. In my opinion, anything other than an actual makeout between Sophia and Natalie will be insufficient.

Yes, it's exactly that: Among other things, she's let a teenage Julia have at her nipples and do some ice play while french kissing. She's manhandled pubescent pepes after knowing them for a total of about four hours, she's talked her daughter through to orgasm, and she rode Alyssa's sybian - someone she's known for about two and a half weeks at that point in the story? (I'm not female and don't know too much about sharing sex toys, but pretty comfortable in my assumption that ladies don't generally share on a casual basis, right?) So yeah, there has to be something more than, well, more than what we've already seen, anyway. Surely.

LOL, are you asking me if there's a girl-code for sex toys? As far as I know, we don't share haha at least I never have. So yes, you're right, for Sophia to ride Alyssa's sybian that's a major step and is further proof that Nat needs to make huge progress.

 

[Talcum Powder]

It's especially important that Natalie make's progress because we aren't going to see her for a while after this. If we go another year before we see her again (if not longer) and she doesn't make any progress with Sophia in this update, then she should just be dropped. In my opinion, anything other than an actual makeout between Sophia and Natalie will be insufficient.



LOL, are you asking me if there's a girl-code for sex toys? As far as I know, we don't share haha at least I never have. So yes, you're right, for Sophia to ride Alyssa's sybian that's a major step and is further proof that Nat needs to make huge progress.

Ha! Sorry, no I didn't mean it like that - I wasn't asking for your personal take - but thanks for providing the anecdotal support for my assumption.

Next question: Does L&P recognize that using someone else's sex toy is a pretty frigging severe departure from the straight and narrow? At this point all pretense of Sophia being uptight or having second thoughts about any sexcapades will ring pretty hollow.
[edit] I guess I'm really asking rhetorically, since we know L&P absolutely does understand just how far beyond conservative/repressed Sophia actually is in pretty much all storylines, is he actually going to up the stakes accordingly? As you say, if not then what's the point [of the Nathalie sub-plot, for example].

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Ha! Sorry, no I didn't mean it like that - I wasn't asking for your personal take - but thanks for providing the anecdotal support for my assumption.

Next question: Does L&P recognize that using someone else's sex toy is a pretty frigging severe departure from the straight and narrow? At this point all pretense of Sophia being uptight or having second thoughts about any sexcapades will ring pretty hollow.
[edit] I guess I'm really asking rhetorically, since we know L&P absolutely does understand just how far beyond conservative/repressed Sophia actually is in pretty much all storylines, is he actually going to up the stakes accordingly? As you say, if not then what's the point [of the Nathalie sub-plot, for example].

Honestly, at the time I didn't think much of it. But after the second side job, and all the action we've seen in the last couple updates, yeah the idea of Sophia as sexually naive person should be dead. While I think it's fair that she's still a ways away from having sex with someone, I don't want to hear her say/think "Oh I shouldn't be doing this. Why am I doing this? Do I like it?" At this point it just causes an eye roll because it isn't believable. I'll give her a little bit of a break when it comes to same-sex action, coming to terms with your sexuality can be tough, but even that excuse is getting thin.

So yes, the stakes have to rise with Natalie.

 

[Talcum Powder]

As an always been hetero male I’ve never had to consider coming to grips with my sexuality, so I’ll have to think on that for a bit. At the same time, she coached her daughter to orgasm. It’s a headspace I’ve tried to understand but I can’t say I fully appreciate. I can totally see getting lost in the moment, but the lack of regret later in the day and subsequent days does force me to agree with you, the time for Sophia second guessing herself must end very soon, if it’s not already passed.

 

[BRTT]

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

As an always been hetero male I’ve never had to consider coming to grips with my sexuality, so I’ll have to think on that for a bit. At the same time, she coached her daughter to orgasm. It’s a headspace I’ve tried to understand but I can’t say I fully appreciate. I can totally see getting lost in the moment, but the lack of regret later in the day and subsequent days does force me to agree with you, the time for Sophia second guessing herself must end very soon, if it’s not already passed.

I mean, you're right that the story isn't consistent. You would think that a woman who was coming to grips with her sexuality would also struggle to reconcile how/why she would coach her daughter to orgasm. At some point this is just a game, and some level of suspension of disbelief is required. That said, L&P is in the unenviable position of making a game that wants to be better than the average porn game, but still requires suspension of disbelief. In reality, a woman that had done what Sophia has done in like three weeks would be a heck of a lot more corrupted than what we've seen so far.

 

[Deleted member 4063857]

In reality, a woman that had done what Sophia has done in like three weeks would be a heck of a lot more corrupted than what we've seen so far.

It would've been better/believable if all the events are spread across different days (not on the same day) over a span of say, one year.

 

[Bane71]

So I’ve been thinking about the upcoming episode with Nathalie: how far are they going to go? I think we’re all ready for a demonstration of cunning linguistics but also know full well that ain’t going to happen. Will it go as far as Julia by the pool? If so great, and that would represent progress on that particular storyline, but it would not be a step forward overall, simply bringing one relationship on par with another. With the crazy progression of the second side job one has reason to hope for a similar amount of lewdidity, I suppose…

sigh…

I think Natalie will do something that Sophia has to bite her lips.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Progress Report. Ver. 0.150

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+10% on day?

 

[MaliPizdek]

who will see Sophia's puss in V 1.50? anyone? no one?

 

[I_Love_Moms]

who will see Sophia's puss in V 1.50? anyone? no one?

No fking body

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

10% a day to see Sofia's leg and maybe, maybe... Cowards.... ha-haaa Ps/ Exclusively, my fantasy....

 

[raavan1]

who will see Sophia's puss in V 1.50? anyone? no one?

Liam......will see

 

[t3alqdansam]

It would've been better/believable if all the events are spread across different days (not on the same day) over a span of say, one year.

And thus the issue of doing it all by himself. He had no one to bounce ideas off of and missed the opportunity a more 'realistic' story stretched over 'realistic' time. Not that a colleague would, by definition, catch this but, two or more are usually better than one. Not every moment of every day is significant. I don't even remember all my drive times. I am just where I wanted to be, safely. (It helps starting hours before the rest of the city.) This concept of stretched/time jumps would have allowed much greater flexibility IMO.

 

[TommyTuba]

Sophie Taking Ellie´s V card

What’s a V card?

 

[Zozefs]

What’s a V card?

Visa Inc. bank card, so she basically will take Ellies pocket money. It's time for Ellie to find a JOB.

 

[Bane71]

And thus the issue of doing it all by himself. He had no one to bounce ideas off of and missed the opportunity a more 'realistic' story stretched over 'realistic' time. Not that a colleague would, by definition, catch this but, two or more are usually better than one. Not every moment of every day is significant. I don't even remember all my drive times. I am just where I wanted to be, safely. (It helps starting hours before the rest of the city.) This concept of stretched/time jumps would have allowed much greater flexibility IMO.

Quite right, a longer time period of Sophia's corruption would make the game and events really more realistic. Also, the developer would not have to load Sofia with a large number of events for one game day, which also moves the game away from realism.
But at this stage of the game, it is probably no longer possible to make such significant changes to the development of the game. Therefore, we need to be a little cooler and not so demanding about the realism of what is happening, especially the events that will happen in the next few game days.

 

[Jazzmatazz]

What’s a V card?

Visa ?