GingerSweetGirl

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Maybe I'm looking at this too much from a programmer's point of view. Accidentally setting a limit too high that a user / customer can change at any time via a menu is annoying, but not a big deal in my job (if something burns off as a result, things look different, of course.). Much worse are errors that hide code that are not so obvious and require rewriting of the source code. If such a small mistake happens to me, then the customer calls, I tell him where he can correct the value, excuse me and the matter is forgotten. Some customers see it as an insult to their intelligence if they do not find out the error themselves, correct the value and only call me afterwards.
I think it's just a matter of perception, but I'd call the Dylan mistake "big". What you're talking about, errors in the code that make the game unstable or unplayable, sounds "catastrophic" to me from the user end. The Dylan error is magnified because it hasn't been fixed, if it had we would have let it go. A "small" glitch/error to me would be things like a character's body clipping through their clothes, or duplicated text within a scene.
 

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I think it's just a matter of perception, but I'd call the Dylan mistake "big". What you're talking about, errors in the code that make the game unstable or unplayable, sounds "catastrophic" to me from the user end. The Dylan error is magnified because it hasn't been fixed, if it had we would have let it go. A "small" glitch/error to me would be things like a character's body clipping through their clothes, or duplicated text within a scene.
Catastrophic for me is just a mistake that I cannot find myself. A mistake that I can correct via a user menu is just a minor annoyance.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Catastrophic for me is just a mistake that I cannot find myself. A mistake that I can correct via a user menu is just a minor annoyance.
But we can agree that something like the Dylan error should never have happened, and if it did happen it should have been fixed quickly, right? From a basic sense of pride that should have been fixed quickly.
 

ancienregimele

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I really wish all LP critics came together and made a game ... i doubt they would come close but if they did this than the world would be peaceful haha

Hopefully they accept the challenge ...dont disappoint me, all LP's critics lol
This will be an idea to revisit if/when the game is abandoned, although "all L&P's critics" would end up as an unwieldy committee. As I have 0 render ability, I herewith volunteer to write erotic scenarios (but only if Sophia can revert to her original human breast size) & I state that if the updates are not on time, I undertake to provide genuine excuses &/or take a reduction, (sliding scale % to be agreed), in payment share.

Patreon is no longer working for consumers at a level commensurate with its' patron's contributions, or expectations IMO. Abandonment might provide an opportunity to fix this but hopefully this will never be tested because the game will not be abandoned & will just carry on, (albeit becoming slower & slower, with maybe one event every 6 months?) for forever & a day.
 

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But we can agree that something like the Dylan error should never have happened, and if it did happen it should have been fixed quickly, right? From a basic sense of pride that should have been fixed quickly.
Errors happen, sooner or later a bug always appears. It's the unwritten rule of computer science. :( And as it has been thoroughly discussed it happened for the render part too.
This one seems more like a distraction error to me, as in e.g. he changed the value to test and forgot to set it back. Or something like that.
It's no shocker to me. I'm more surprise that so far there are no errors on the event dependencies: the number of choices, outcomes and branches are starting to multiply and, as I said before, this can be easily become a mess to deal with.

On the other hand, I completely agree that it was so easy to fix and it has been reported by the users so quickly and early that making a patch or a new release would have taken what, 15mins, upload time included? Dismissing it with the excuse that you can now cheat is sloppy to say the least. It's something that would trigger the OCD of any programmer in no time :)
And it's strange for a perfectionist like him, but I guess that he is really obsessed with the rendering part rather than the code (and if you look at the code you clearly see that he lacks some basic programming background).
 

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I really wish all LP critics came together and made a game ... i doubt they would come close but if they did this than the world would be peaceful haha

Hopefully they accept the challenge ...dont disappoint me, all LP's critics lol
Regardless of what side of the fence your on, "make your own game" is not a valid defense.
 

ancienregimele

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Regardless of what side of the fence your on, "make your own game" is not a valid defense.
Yet, it keeps cropping up & it will never go away. What critics can do & is arguably a real answer, is just stop playing. That's a decision which can occur when certain features reach a tipping point & of course is a matter of personal taste. This week I ditched 3 files full of stuff I once played & enjoyed. I made no posts about this on the relevant threads, (where I'm hardly likely to be missed) & won't mention any titles.

I still havn't reached such a juncture with AWAM but there must be many fans who were present at the start & no longer play. So, the question is, how many patron leavers would trigger either abandonment, or genuine reform with a view to continuance? We may never know.
 
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Bishop Robert

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What critics can do & is arguably a real answer, is just stop playing.
Reasonable.

I mean if you are someone who has no hope in this game at all idk why you would bother continue coming here to talk about it, however its a public platform so they have every right to say what they want (so long as it doesn't break the rules).
 

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游戏应加入语言选择功能,自动翻译

The game should add language selection function, automatic translation
 
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Coming to a thread to express a negative opinion on a game that seems to have a very poor time to develop vs amount of content ratio with each update is perfectly valid, patron or not.

Staying around just to argue how bad the dev is, i mean, after a certain point that just seems kinda pointless. I mean, what is the end goal you would hope to achieve?

Convince the fans to all abandon the dev?

I mean, good luck with that, but seeks like there are better things to do.

Then again, i think i just described every internet nerd slap fight ever! :unsure:
 

Bishop Robert

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Coming to a thread to express a negative opinion on a game that seems to have a very poor time to develop vs amount of content ratio with each update is perfectly valid, patron or not.

Staying around just to argue how bad the dev is, i mean, after a certain point that just seems kinda pointless. I mean, what is the end goal you would hope to achieve?

Convince the fans to all abandon the dev?

I mean, good luck with that, but seeks like there are better things to do.

Then again, i think i just described every internet nerd slap fight ever! :unsure:
Yeah.

I mean I dislike Hunt Down The Freeman, but once in awhile I'll watch videos on it then type comments about it, shitting on it some more. Or The Star Wars sequels even, been awhile but I used to randomly go to scenes of it and go into the comments to call out the bullshit.

People don't want to admit it but there is a good bit of people in the world that get some liking when talking/listening/etc about something they don't like in which criticisms are repeatedly said.

And at the end of the day who cares? If you don't like it just keep scrolling. Only things I'm tired of seeing here are the repeatedly asked questions "Is the update out yet? or "Has Sophia had sex with ____?".
 
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palmtrees89

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is moving!!! We know how many pages of plot L&P will do in this last update? :unsure:
Pretty sure it's considerably less translation work this time around. In .130, Xavier probably made for 50% of the written plot alone. Maybe 2 weeks of P&T if we're lucky. That's just me being optimistic, though. Could very well end up taking 4 weeks for all I know.
 
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Out of curiosity - are there pictures from upcoming content?
I'm kinda afraid to check 3k+ pages back on my own...
 
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Pretty sure it's considerably less translation work this time around. In .130, Xavier probably made for 50% of the written plot alone. Maybe 2 weeks of T&P if we're lucky. That's just me being optimistic, though. Could very well end up taking 4 weeks for all I know.
xavier and the kids lesson was also a lot of text

do you think he can keep up the pace of translating 2 pages per day?
 
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