VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[ancienregimele]

I think we have to keep in mind that this is not a normal situation, Sophia experiences a mixture of humiliation, sexual arousal, fear, shame... She is on the edge, and her reaction can't be normal, it's multiplied. In front of Liam nothing would happen but in front of her own students any stimulus can multiply several times.

That's not my point, which is that the only person really enjoying this visually would be Aiden & even he is at the back of the class. After the tour de force that was the 3rd task & the limitations of the classroom, it could be expected that the 4th task might not be the feast for the eyes that the 3rd one was but watching a woman grimacing & twisting & trying to look unconcerned, (while doing the internal monologue routine?), might not be all that great. I don't know whether the setting would multiply the effect, (I have my doubts) but if it did, this would only make the above-imagined reactions worse.

If she's going to moan in front of the class, which seems possible, there's going to be some explaining to do, as in she'll have to feign a fit, or pretend she's ill, neither of which resonates with eroticism. As I havn't seen the teaser it's hard to speculate further but from the descriptions it sounds like a remote control toy is a real possibility. This has all been done so many times elsewhere. I find myself asking, 'when is this set, The 90s?'

 

[crabboid]

^ca. 2 years

I can’t begin to describe how butthurt I’m going to be if that update finally hits, and it amounts to a brief conversation where she admonishes him for being so forward in the hot tub.

 

[nexer]

That's not my point, which is that the only person really enjoying this visually would be Aiden & even he is at the back of the class. After the tour de force that was the 3rd task & the limitations of the classroom, it could be expected that the 4th task might not be the feast for the eyes that the 3rd one was but watching a woman grimacing & twisting & trying to look unconcerned, (while doing the internal monologue routine?), might not be all that great. I don't know whether the setting would multiply the effect, (I have my doubts) but if it did, this would only make the above-imagined reactions worse.

If she's going to moan in front of the class, which seems possible, there's going to be some explaining to do, as in she'll have to feign a fit, or pretend she's ill, neither of which resonates with eroticism. As I havn't seen the teaser it's hard to speculate further but from the descriptions it sounds like a remote control toy is a real possibility. This has all been done so many times elsewhere. I find myself asking, 'when is this set, The 90s?'

I'm not going for the sex toy idea. And I still think that at school it has to look "accidental", "unintentional", otherwise it's provocation, striptease in front of her own students, which is... grounds for firing.

 

[ancienregimele]

It is mostly a trust issue for him ao it is probably a difficult situation. And given his patreons who PAY for this game they seem pretty happy giving the comments.

This lack of trust all stems from him having moved the goalposts on the targets he announced when he started. This happened when they were achieved. Things, not surprisingly, went downhill from there. I agree that some comments could be hard to take for even a thick-skinned individual (& L&P seems to be of an "artistic temperament") but trust is a 2-way street.

One reason why much criticism can be observed in this thread concerns the sheer size of it. It's huge & that's a sign of the interest this VN generates. Even the release to a select audience of the most recent teaser created a buzz, whether for good or not being a matter of opinion. "There's no such thing as bad publicity" is an over-used old adage but it has a strong element of truth, especially when applied to the creative arts.

Personally, I try to aim for balance in praise & criticism, secure in the knowledge that as it comes from a pirate, it will largely be ignored, either way.

 

[Eglise]

What if the husband hadn't come home? They would surely have continued. The future is Sam.

 

[misteriosoko7]

Someone have a torrent file for the new update game?

 

[ScintillatingRetard]

Star citizen will be finished before this game gets final version

Screenshot this and when it ages like fine wine feel free to curse me and future generations of my blood

 

[stuffnstuff0]

I can't blame the dev for enjoying the fruits of his labor and slowing development, if he really is paid as much as I have seen people say be thankful he hasn't simply abandoned the whole thing and disappeared to go live on a beach somewhere. this happens all the time "when I've already been paid, why care?" only the most honest, forward thinking people can resist that temptation.

 

[BorgiaBou]

Of all the games I currently follow this is the one thread with the most negativity on a constant basis shitting on the developer.

I think you give waaaaay to much credit and importance to this lp of yours man...

 

[ScintillatingRetard]

Lie 1 = He stated at the start that if he met a certain subscriber level he would hire help. Four years later he has no help. Lie 2 - He has said he is increasing updates. He did that by making the updates smaller parts of the PDs. In other words slowing actual production. I had personal conversations with him where he lied (when I was a patron). Those I will not release but, that was another experience for me. So, that has been my observation.

Not including all the times he has had an embolism coming on this site. Does he engage fans here like the other devs do? Hell no! Acewinz and Cheekygimp from WHTI are excellent examples of Devs that chat and relate with their fans. Oh, and they stop all charges when they are not producing. Does L&P? Nope. So, is there plenty of cause on both sides. Sure. But the onus is on L&P. If he was dedicated to what he said from the beginning there would not be an issue. He now has stated he will get a writer and someone to help him with art (what role he knows). I do not recommend holding your breath on this. Just Sayin'.

To be honest it's not high science to figure out what kind of a liars most of adult game developers are. They act like they create some Michelangelo quality level sh*t type of game and always moan about how hard they work even though they release 2-3 months worth of labor in 1 year or how bad their pc is even though they get thousands of dollars per month on Patreon.

All it takes to see through the crap of those developers is to not be a simp and stop acting like fool believing in every word somebody says on interent.

 

[ScintillatingRetard]

It took Michelangelo 4 years to paint entire ceiling of Sistine Chapel and these dudes moan about how hard it is to create scenes in blender and release 300 renders(with 99% reused assets and scenes) in like 2 years

 

[neronxx]

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[Jude6]

... But honestly I do not see much different from other games which also take months to fisnish for 40-50 Minutes of "gameplay"...

I think part of the issue is L&P's decision to announce a 30-day game timeline.

I've theorised before that there's an added 'Watched pot never boils' aura to this game.
Looking at Jessica O'neils Hard News, the game I think most comparable to this one; female protagonist, corruption based, similar art style and render quality and updates for that game are also taking longer and longer to release. Yet - there isn't nearly as much complaining in the Hard News thread as here.

When Hard News gets an update, the player-base are saying 'Great, more content'.
When A Wife and Mother gets an update, the player-base are saying 'Greeeat, 40.3 percent of the way there'

When this game first released a lot of people presumed it was a Sprint, over time we've learned that it's actually a Marathon. A lot of people here (including myself sometimes) are guilty of counting every quarter mile of that marathon like '9 down, 96 left to go' instead of just focusing on putting one foot in front of the other.

... Personally, I try to aim for balance in praise & criticisism, secure in the knowledge that as it comes from a pirate, it will largely be ignored, either way.

Well said

 

[Lukereds]

We are at the end of era. L&P may cry but all here open their eyes. You can delete also this post again and again. There's no friend or admin who can control the loss.

 

[Lukereds]

It took Michelangelo 4 years to paint entire ceiling of Sistine Chapel and these dudes moan about how hard it is to create scenes in blender and release 300 renders(with 99% reused assets and scenes) in like 2 years

It's 3d, nothing else. Really easy compared to Sistine chapel. It's not 2d that's not so easy and required more time!

 

[ScintillatingRetard]

It's 3d, nothing else. Really easy compared to Sistine chapel. It's not 2d that's not so easy and required more time!

I would not take it that far. 3D is easier because you don't have to think about turning x dimensional image into x - 1 dimensional image but it's still pretty hard. What my comparison was about is that Michelangelo lived in 15-16th century with no modern technology like Blender and sh*t like that. Motherfucker painted bigass ceiling with masterpieces which will be remembered for hundreds of generations to come and it only took him 4 years to do that. Modern "artists" on the other hand create forgettable mediocre shit in more time and then moan about how hard it is to create 3D designs.

If Michelangelo had tools like Blender he would be out of this world and very efficient because he was passionate and professional. Passionate and professional people try to do as much as they can with the time they are given in this life and I hope I had that feature but I am lazy as fuck as well but I can appreciate the effort behind passionate professionals.

 

[neronxx]

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[bluehound36]

otherwise it's provocation, striptease in front of her own students, which is... grounds for firing.

Only if she were to get caught. Who says aiden wouldn't have some of his gang stand guard outside the classroom? The principal has already proven he doesn't really give a shit what aiden does ultimately. He's obviously got the out of sight, out of mind mentality about what that guy does to cause trouble in the first place. So long as aiden picks specific students to remain in class to watch something like that who he knows will keep their mouths shut, it's just business as usual. Just go back and look at his response to sophia trying to get something done about aiden for bullying. That alone should tell you whatever aiden does or causes to happen isn't going to garner a response from the principal unless it is so overt that he has no choice.

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Can you give it to us?

Nobody has shared the last teaser, why do you think anyone would share this one?

 

[Lukereds]

I would not take it that far. 3D is easier because you don't have to think about turning x dimensional image into x - 1 dimensional image but it's still pretty hard. What my comparison was about is that Michelangelo lived in 15-16th century with no modern technology like Blender and sh*t like that. Motherfucker painted bigass ceiling with masterpieces which will be remembered for hundreds of generations to come and it only took him 4 years to do that. Modern "artists" on the other hand create forgettable mediocre shit in more time and then moan about how hard it is to create 3D designs.

If Michelangelo had tools like Blender he would be out of this world and very efficient because he was passionate and professional.

Please don't make me laugh. The reality is another: the characters were bought in Daz and only modelled. There's no art but only a storyline that worked fine in the beginning and now, after years, the author thought to milk their Patreons with another one replaced, more teasing one probably but not so easy to reproduce with initial project.
There's many holes in the storyline that makes it more unrealistic than beginning.
The focus is lost in various route that hasn't a real sense.

 

[xxxorro]

That's not my point, which is that the only person really enjoying this visually would be Aiden & even he is at the back of the class. After the tour de force that was the 3rd task & the limitations of the classroom, it could be expected that the 4th task might not be the feast for the eyes that the 3rd one was but watching a woman grimacing & twisting & trying to look unconcerned, (while doing the internal monologue routine?), might not be all that great. I don't know whether the setting would multiply the effect, (I have my doubts) but if it did, this would only make the above-imagined reactions worse.

If she's going to moan in front of the class, which seems possible, there's going to be some explaining to do, as in she'll have to feign a fit, or pretend she's ill, neither of which resonates with eroticism. As I havn't seen the teaser it's hard to speculate further but from the descriptions it sounds like a remote control toy is a real possibility. This has all been done so many times elsewhere. I find myself asking, 'when is this set, The 90s?'

I agree with your point about the toys. It's difficult to anticipate how it will play out and how the eroticism of the scene, if any, will be conveyed to the reader. So far L&P did a great job (IMO), with obvious ups and downs, in taking the classic clichés of porn scene (photoshoot, drawing class, sauna, yoga, shower, massage, you name it) and give it a more erotic (or "classy", as per his words) take. Let's see how it goes for this one, provided it is really that as it seems.

From another point of view, though, this kind of task (the toys) could fit well story-wise for the Morello option. As you said, the only one really enjoying the task would be Aiden &C who are aware of Sophia's struggles and can exert his power at best, dominating and humiliating Sophia. That would serve well as the last straw for Sophia, who then will have no hesitation in using the Morello card, whichever the way will be. In this scenario the task would "only" serve as a "warning" for Sophia/the player, "do you really want to go down this road or want to call it off?" kind of thing.

It's just a thought that I had, obviously there are yet too many "ifs", from the toys being actually used to the obvious consequence of not using the Morello card (so the next tasks will start to be more extreme) or for those who has not that option, it would mean that a more corrupt Sophia (because of Larry) can stop the blackmail, which is kind of counterintuitive.