CSK92

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Atleast I don't put accusations on someone without knowing the whole picture. So there's that. You know the whole picture show it here. Back what you say. Can't do that, there's no point of you babbling. :sneaky:
Dude. I layed it up right for you and you fell in it. You are going to be heart broke the most when this gets abandoned or theres no update for 2 years. I applaud your loyalty, but its getting tiresome. You can mute me if like.
 

momojean

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Dude. I layed it up right for you and you fell in it. You are going to be heart broke the most when this gets abandoned or theres no update for 2 years. I applaud your loyalty, but its getting tiresome. You can mute me if like.
you can't do anything to help these people. Their case is a lost cause.
Masochism is second nature to them. if you deprive them of it, they risk dying. Can't you see how they dedicate all their brain cells and time to making up lies to justify the bullshit that L&P is doing? While he himself doesn't give a damn and doesn't spend an hour explaining himself. Why would he do it when he has a bunch of worshipers doing it for him for free.
 

Sabertooth__

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Dude. I layed it up right for you and you fell in it. You are going to be heart broke the most when this gets abandoned or theres no update for 2 years. I applaud your loyalty, but its getting tiresome. You can mute me if like.
Oh more than me those people will be heart broken who come here everyday just complain even if the game gets delayed by a day, as they have lost their one single purpose in life.

For me, i atleast have perspective that there are 1000's of substitutes of Awam, direct or indirect. Hence I don't cry here about every single word he says. He can stop today itself and I'd move on. Doesn't seem to be the case for the die hard critiques.
 

Jack Adams

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And while this was the case it is not reality anymore. Right now we get Steel from china and then use it for other productions because it has been way cheaper to import it From China than create it here. since the energie costs going through the roof. Germany's buble is soon to burst. We pay already the highest engergie costs in the World. Basically more than 50% of wage goes down for Taxes direcect and indirect like Sales tax etc. We are getting outclassed in many points these days it is ridiculous.

I wonder how long this can still last. But as fun this is I think we wennt way of topic for a porn game XD

But for translating: Translating from German to other languages is set with many difficulties grammarwise. We have so many exceptions and grammar differences compared to english or other languages. I do not think it is as easy as some people think it is.

Personally I would not even write in German but rather compete in English. This would probably be easier for him and timewise.
Your comments concerning the general state of affairs in Germany is correct. The political will to maintain a sovereign country anchored by real wealth in terms of manufactured goods has become largely absent. It is not difficult to develop or restore cheap utilities, a modern infrastructure and a competitive economy... if the priorities in any nation's leadership is focused there (e.g. Even the overlooked nation of Botswana in the 1990's had the fastest growing GDP in the world due to political will). I fully agree that any economic leadership that does not disabuse themselves from an economy based on debt will collapse.
This is all an unlikely tie in to our intemperance concerning L&P's production schedule. Although the root of his intent I believe to be sincere, the patience debt he has incurred with many will continue to erode faith in his actions for the future.
 

Alley_Cat

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The time estimates are just that, estimates. There is a 0% chance this game will ever be completed at a 40yr pace. Odds are, most of us will be dead by then. Including LP.

9yrs isn't much better, honestly. Sure, it's a shorter timeline. But the odds a game gets developed for ~15 years and completed is also extremely low.

The only chance this game has to be completed is if it can be done in the next ~5 or so years. However, the odds that happens are also slim to none.

We keep focusing on the number of updates. 10 updates for a single day yada-yada. The number of updates do not matter, it's the progress each of those updates make that matters. If each update is just a small portion of the day, and it takes a year to make all those small updates, then nothing really changes. We're at 1day per IRL year spread across 10 updates.

That's the same as 1day per year in one big update. The whole thing with small updates making the development quicker is an illusion. It seems quicker, since the updates are more common, but in reality you get the same amount of content you'd get with the previous update cycle. 1 day per year.

To keep the food analogy's going. Imagine going to a restaurant and ordering a burger. You can either order the entire burger and wait a year for it to be made. Or you can cut the burger into 10 small pieces and eat one of those pieces every 2-4 months. What's the difference? Nothing, you're still going to die of starvation either way.

The talks about "quicker updates" vs "quality game" is a false choice. You can have both. I don't think anyone would complain at all if LP "reduces" the quality of the game back to the earlier updates quality. Back when this was updated regularly, before he fell in love with lens flares and "special" tasks.
I think the food analogy would be more accurate to say first you get half the bun, then some lettuce, a slice of cheese, then a pickle etc etc. And we're nowhere near getting the beef patty yet.
 
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Jack Adams

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Oh man, that is history.
Their neighbours went out to conquer, and Germany used what they had. In the long run this gave them this technical advantage but I don't think it was a choice.
The envy that the Netherlands, France, Spain caused them with their conquests must have been enormous :ROFLMAO:
As for the purity of German iron ore deposits, I haven't heard, processing techniques are important. I have studied the iron-carbon diagram.
"Our history can prove to be the strongest indicator of our future if we take pause to remember it."
-Jack Adams-

I like the direction your argument is going... and thank you. Yes, indeed the 16th century conquests were enjoyed largely by Spain initially. In the first half of the 16th century the gold and silver 'acquired' from the new world comprised 50% of that country's GDP. With Spain's political will that wealth allowed for a king (Charles) to rule over a united Spain. He also became Holy Roman Emperor and first seat for the Order of the Golden Fleece. However, the financial stewardship that allowed Charles to reify economic concepts and influence continental politics came from the Fugger banking dynasty (a German concern.)
You are also spot on when you say that "processing techniques are important'. Case in point is the English who invented the puddling process that they used to transform their 'dirty' ore into a product that was nearly comparable to their German counterparts. In 150 years of naval conflict not a single English canon exploded, in contrast during the same period more French sailors died from canon rupture than by enemy fire.
Again, this ties in nicely with an on-topic discussion. We hope that L&P can refine his game development process so that a self-inflicted hemorrhage of his patrons are not lost in the near future. Sincerely, I truly wish him well as he is a talented artist.
 
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t3alqdansam

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The time estimates are just that, estimates. There is a 0% chance this game will ever be completed at a 40yr pace. Odds are, most of us will be dead by then. Including LP.

9yrs isn't much better, honestly. Sure, it's a shorter timeline. But the odds a game gets developed for ~15 years and completed is also extremely low.

The only chance this game has to be completed is if it can be done in the next ~5 or so years. However, the odds that happens are also slim to none.

We keep focusing on the number of updates. 10 updates for a single day yada-yada. The number of updates do not matter, it's the progress each of those updates make that matters. If each update is just a small portion of the day, and it takes a year to make all those small updates, then nothing really changes. We're at 1day per IRL year spread across 10 updates.

That's the same as 1day per year in one big update. The whole thing with small updates making the development quicker is an illusion. It seems quicker, since the updates are more common, but in reality you get the same amount of content you'd get with the previous update cycle. 1 day per year.

To keep the food analogy's going. Imagine going to a restaurant and ordering a burger. You can either order the entire burger and wait a year for it to be made. Or you can cut the burger into 10 small pieces and eat one of those pieces every 2-4 months. What's the difference? Nothing, you're still going to die of starvation either way.

The talks about "quicker updates" vs "quality game" is a false choice. You can have both. I don't think anyone would complain at all if LP "reduces" the quality of the game back to the earlier updates quality. Back when this was updated regularly, before he fell in love with lens flares and "special" tasks.
The scary use of the term Lens Flares gave me a JJ Abrams thought. We are doomed I say. Other than that you are spot on!:)
 

t3alqdansam

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Lust&Passion I believe finding 3D artists to hire who can match your quality it's not that impossible as you think.

Look, I went to Daz3D gallery

And there are several artists with impressive renders. Look for example this guy :

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I went to his youtube channel, where he makes tutorials and certainly you can tell he has a lot of knowledge, and I found his . There he says: "Hey there - my name is Rauko. I'm a 3D artist creating both Safe for Work (SFW) and Not Safe For Work (NSFW) content such as images, animations, visual novels and games. I've been working with various 3d tools and applications over the years but am currently firmly encamped in the Daz 3D field and pumping out images on a regular basis."

And how many patrons he has? 2. It seems that he is not making profit from this right now, so maybe he will be interested in be hiring by someone.

You could write him something like: "Hi I'm the dev from A Wife And Mother, a very popular adult game, and I'm searching for someone who can make "[insert number]" renders per month of this quality. Are you interested? Write me at "" and we discuss the payment."

And you can do that for every artist that can make renders you like. Yo go to the gallery, watch a great render, then you write that to the artist.

There's other great renders by others too:
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Great thought. Unfortunately it is on the pirate site and therefore relegated to L&Ps file 13, the Circular file, etc etc...
 

t3alqdansam

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Dude. I layed it up right for you and you fell in it. You are going to be heart broke the most when this gets abandoned or theres no update for 2 years. I applaud your loyalty, but its getting tiresome. You can mute me if like.
Yup, another gets to Saber burnout! It is like a 33 rpm vinyl being played on 78. Inaudible and irritating at best.
 

Sabertooth__

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Yup, another gets to Saber burnout! It is like a 33 rpm vinyl being played on 78. Inaudible and irritating at best.
How pathetic. Constantly, every single day you keep mentioning me. Even though no asks you to, no one is talking to you, yet you do that.
You put me on ignore and still can't help talking about me. How many times have you seen me mention you on my posts.

What kind of love are you trying to show towards me.:ROFLMAO: Just get over me or directly say what you have to say to me.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Does someone has a link to the thread of this game updates,news,teasers,etc?
You're on it, it's this one. You just need to wade through the other discussions on things like pigeons, airport altitudes, whether boots can fit in handbags and other trivialities.

The best compilation of the information we have can be found here.
 
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