DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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Jun 11, 2020
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Fans ?? You call people who literally abuse, put allegations on the "Man making this game" as fans.
They love the game, who is making the game ? L&P. If all he gets is abuses from "fans" is it supposed to make him happy. Is he supposed to feel like interacting with people here. Is he supposed to be motivated to work better.

The blame is easily shifted on 1 man who isn't even coming here to talk anymore. In reality he is provoked every single time. Even now that is the case with the thread. You see it for yourself. The difference is that he broke ties with this thread. It is very painful for people here to look at the side of things that show their mistakes.

I would Simply askthis one question to every single "Fan" of Awam. If this man's work style frustrates you, why do you come here everyday to follow it. These are just masochistic tendencies.

You love the game, come back when it's released. Anyways none of them ever actively dicuss the game. It is always Development. Always with the same repetitive blabbering.

So I don't understand this rational of coming to this thread. Just to get themselves frustrated and then posting toxic comments, expressing dissatisfaction and then coming back everyday to follow this routine. Are these mature people, because it doesn't seem like it. Mature people know to distance themselves from things that negatively affect their daily lives, these guys just go head-on into such negative things.

Hence my question stands, what is the motive, purpose, rational behind acting like this.

And I very well know these "fans" don't have an answer for this.
Ok I got a question for you then, (even though I’ve explained myself before, that I’m a former Patreon of awam)
Why are you here on this pirate thread?
Why aren’t you hanging out on L&P’s Patreon thread, where you can worship your god daily and he can interact with you (as long as your a high tier subscriber) otherwise he’ll treat you like a doormat
 

hzjujk

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Ok I got a question for you then, (even though I’ve explained myself before, that I’m a former Patreon of awam)
Why are you here on this pirate thread?
Why aren’t you hanging out on L&P’s Patreon thread, where you can worship your god daily and he can interact with you (as long as your a high tier subscriber) otherwise he’ll treat you like a doormat
Such contributions always leave me in disbelief. Members are called god worshippers, lawyers, brainless, sheep/fans just because they don't agree with the mainstream that L&P is the most lying porn game developer of all time. But you are right when you ask the question why such people still come here to discuss. Because occasionally it's actually about the game and not the developer. Because there are pirates who like to talk about the content of the game and not constantly accuse the developer or repeat the accusations of other pirates.
People who write posts like they do have, as pirates, the right to freely express their opinions here, of course. But why they despise people who give them the opportunity to play the game for free, remains a mystery to me.
 

Sabertooth__

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Ok I got a question for you then, (even though I’ve explained myself before, that I’m a former Patreon of awam)
Why are you here on this pirate thread?
Why aren’t you hanging out on L&P’s Patreon thread, where you can worship your god daily and he can interact with you (as long as your a high tier subscriber) otherwise he’ll treat you like a doormat
There you have your answer from hzjujk

Beyond that think about what you just said. You asked someone who likes the game and wants to talk about the GAME not the Developer, nor does he want to abuse or put allegations on anyone to leave the thread, a thread made to talk about the GAME, so that you guys can come to thread everyday to abuse the developer.

Reflect on your statement.

Also to think you missed the entire point of my message. In my message I didn't praise L&P once. All I said was stop abusing,and you labelled me a worshipper. Now that says a lot about which side is speaking rationally.

Such contributions always leave me in disbelief. Members are called god worshippers, lawyers, brainless, sheep/fans just because they don't agree with the mainstream that L&P is the most lying porn game developer of all time. But you are right when you ask the question why such people still come here to discuss. Because occasionally it's actually about the game and not the developer. Because there are pirates who like to talk about the content of the game and not constantly accuse the developer or repeat the accusations of other pirates.
People who write posts like they do have, as pirates, the right to freely express their opinions here, of course. But why they despise people who give them the opportunity to play the game for free, remains a mystery to me.
Thankyou to you for a nice answer.
 
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clowns234

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May 2, 2021
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Guys, have no idea what you are doing here. I quit this shit dev like year ago and never checked. Came here today, suddenly remembered, guess what? nothing changed, lol. Pressed X button after posting this comment with a pleasant *sigh*
Yet you're back. LOL
Seems like, as with the rest of us, you just can't walk away. :)
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Aug 23, 2020
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Some of you need to learn to ignore each other. Sometimes a conversation gets heated, but apparently many of you can't let anything go. I actually don't think there's that many trolls in here (aside from the obvious bullshit fake accounts), but there are a wide-array of opinions. I often don't agree with Saber, but calling him a troll is absurd since his argument pretty much amounts to "Can't everyone be nicer?". Meanwhile, I usually agree with Viper, but his scorched earth strategy is hard to engage with. With both users I'm capable of reading their posts and moving on without getting triggered into a tirade. This is a basic skillset when using a forum, and yet some of you will beat a dead horse and lose your minds. Just chill, it's a stupid internet forum for a stupid porn game, it isn't worth getting upset over. Even if you "win" the argument, you still end up looking like a loser who gets bent out of shape because of an internet forum.

All that said, I tend to agree with palmtrees89, L&P's statements have been all over the map so there's really no way to know what he's doing. I don't know to what degree it's intentionally misleading, but he's certainly intentionally vague. His already poor communication has gotten substantially worse over the last year. The last really clear post I can remember from him was when he laid out the timeline for the upcoming sex acts. That was a long post with actual detail; and it was great! But as soon as he started to talk about bringing in help his communications broke down. Now we're left piecing together fragmented and contradictory statements. Some of those statements have been public, and some have been from private correspondences, and that creates a tangled web. His public statements tend to be vague and non-committal, so we learn very little from them. But even they have been contradictory. But in private correspondences he tends to elaborate a bit more, and that's where the contradictions become more pronounced.

From where I stand, I sincerely don't know if L&P knows what he's doing. It's one thing to be disorganized, but I'm beginning to wonder if L&P is overwhelmed to the point of paralysis. If he was simply disorganized he'd be slow (and he's always been slow), but I think he could organize his thoughts when he tried. But over the last year, and especially the last few months, his comments strike me as someone that has slipped beyond disorganization and into paralysis. I'm sure he's still making progress...but it's in fits and starts, and I don't know that it's always productive progress. It feels more and more that the project is collapsing because I don't think L&P is able to juggle all of the balls he has in the air. If he was doing well with the juggling, he wouldn't contradict himself so much.

One last thing, shouldn't we know the names of the other people working on the project? If I had signed up to work with L&P, I'd want to get credit for my work. And yet there hasn't been any announcement or public acknowledgement of the people he's brought on. That's tells me one of two things: 1) Either L&P is just a shitty dude who doesn't want to give other people the public acknowledgement and respect they deserve, or 2) He doesn't have anyone actually lined up and is lying. I really, really, hope that it isn't the second one, but the utter confusion around the status of his help raises a bunch of red flags.
 
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abram1

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May 24, 2020
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Fans ?? You call people who literally abuse, put allegations on the "Man making this game" as fans.
They love the game, who is making the game ? L&P. If all he gets is abuses from "fans" is it supposed to make him happy. Is he supposed to feel like interacting with people here. Is he supposed to be motivated to work better.

The blame is easily shifted on 1 man who isn't even coming here to talk anymore. In reality he is provoked every single time. Even now that is the case with the thread. You see it for yourself. The difference is that he broke ties with this thread. It is very painful for people here to look at the side of things that show their mistakes.
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I would Simply askthis one question to every single "Fan" of Awam. If this man's work style frustrates you, why do you come here everyday to follow it. These are just masochistic tendencies.

You love the game, come back when it's released. Anyways none of them ever actively dicuss the game. It is always Development. Always with the same repetitive blabbering.

So I don't understand this rational of coming to this thread. Just to get themselves frustrated and then posting toxic comments, expressing dissatisfaction and then coming back everyday to follow this routine. Are these mature people, because it doesn't seem like it. Mature people know to distance themselves from things that negatively affect their daily lives, these guys just go head-on into such negative things.

Hence my question stands, what is the motive, purpose, rational behind acting like this.

And I very well know these "fans" don't have an answer for this.
That's a pretty thorough reply, but somewhat hectic.

You, me and several folks on this thread usually see things under a slightly different angle than our counterparts. However, that doesn't mean they are totally wrong.

There's a thin line between love and hate. Some of his former supporters became zealous critics, others still hold the line. But there's a common ground or a neutral zone here. Most of us are getting fed up with extending development cycles. I vividly recall concerns switching from 1/2 to 1/3 PD per update. All that happening right after it took him 5 months for 0.100. Who would've thought that a 1/3 can take the same time as 1/2, huh? So changing that to a new improved by-event update formula - bruh, spare me.

The dev acts like a grown man-child. That's the reality of the modern world. People got too touchy, extremely offensive to anything. Listening to critique and assumptions, based on nothing, is tough and annoying. That's what defines an adult from a kid - taking accountability for the action, ability to withstand hostility with an open mind, although it's tough af. Here lies the reason of not willing to delegate more of his work - fear, that a stranger simply won't meet his internal standards, thereby changing "assistants" like gloves.

And what's this unique and special secret feature that supposedly elevates AWAM to new heights? Why being so discreet about it? I surely hope it won't be an equivalent of a fart in the puddle, excessive effort with lamentable end results.

We, as an audience, should give him a credit where it's due. Almost no one wishes this game to fail. I disagree with opinion that the upcoming update or this year as a whole may be crucial for the game and his hypothetical burnout. He's making decent money hence abandoning it would be unreasonable. Plus he has his core audience at the Patreon, who determine with their wallets what future holds for the game.
 

Sabertooth__

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Sep 23, 2020
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One last thing, shouldn't we know the names of the other people working on the project? If I had signed up to work with L&P, I'd want to get credit for my work. And yet there hasn't been any announcement or public acknowledgement of the people he's brought on. That's tells me one of two things: 1) Either L&P is just a shitty dude who doesn't want to give other people the public acknowledgement and respect they deserve, or 2) He doesn't have anyone actually lined up and is lying. I really, really, hope that it isn't the second one, but the utter confusion around the status of his help raises a bunch of red flags.
A post was made here by a patron stating that he has changed assistants 2 times during this update itself. First one left because of his own work, second one was bad and the third one is currently working with him. So technically there isn't anyone to credit. One first needs to find an assistant that will actually help in the long run and not just use L&P's page as a promotion ground and then leave the next month.

One also has to consider if the artist wants his name mentioned. We have also to see the credits of the game after he has taken in an assistant which can only be seen after the update. So we should wait and see. Also whatever the arrangement is made it will be between the two and it will HAVE TO be satisfying for both or the other person will leave. We really shouldn't bother ourselves with what terms and conditions they agree on to work with each other.
 
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t3alqdansam

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Jan 30, 2021
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I, however, have stopped this game! I'm completely lost! There are so many routes that I do not know when is the last update! And when you come, I see only one scene! I will play it again when it is over (if it ever happens, I doubt it) and if I live until then
There are many in close trail to this position. You are likely a leader of note.
 

t3alqdansam

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Jan 30, 2021
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Some of you need to learn to ignore each other. Sometimes a conversation gets heated, but apparently many of you can't let anything go. I actually don't think there's that many trolls in here (aside from the obvious bullshit fake accounts), but there are a wide-array of opinions. I often don't agree with Saber, but calling him a troll is absurd since his argument pretty much amounts to "Can't everyone be nicer?". Meanwhile, I usually agree with Viper, but his scorched earth strategy is hard to engage with. With both users I'm capable of reading their posts and moving on without getting triggered into a tirade. This is a basic skillset when using a forum, and yet some of you will beat a dead horse and lose your minds. Just chill, it's a stupid internet forum for a stupid porn game, it isn't worth getting upset over. Even if you "win" the argument, you still end up looking like a loser who gets bent out of shape because of an internet forum.

All that said, I tend to agree with palmtrees89, L&P's statements have been all over the map so there's really no way to know what he's doing. I don't know to what degree it's intentionally misleading, but he's certainly intentionally vague. His already poor communication has gotten substantially worse over the last year. The last really clear post I can remember from him was when he laid out the timeline for the upcoming sex acts. That was a long post with actual detail; and it was great! But as soon as he started to talk about bringing in help his communications broke down. Now we're left piecing together fragmented and contradictory statements. Some of those statements have been public, and some have been from private correspondences, and that creates a tangled web. His public statements tend to be vague and non-committal, so we learn very little from them. But even they have been contradictory. But in private correspondences he tends to elaborate a bit more, and that's where the contradictions become more pronounced.

From where I stand, I sincerely don't know if L&P knows what he's doing. It's one thing to be disorganized, but I'm beginning to wonder if L&P is overwhelmed to the point of paralysis. If he was simply disorganized he'd be slow (and he's always been slow), but I think he could organize his thoughts when he tried. But over the last year, and especially the last few months, his comments strike me as someone that has slipped beyond disorganization and into paralysis. I'm sure he's still making progress...but it's in fits and starts, and I don't know that it's always productive progress. It feels more and more that the project is collapsing because I don't think L&P is able to juggle all of the balls he has in the air. If he was doing well with the juggling, he wouldn't contradict himself so much.

One last thing, shouldn't we know the names of the other people working on the project? If I had signed up to work with L&P, I'd want to get credit for my work. And yet there hasn't been any announcement or public acknowledgement of the people he's brought on. That's tells me one of two things: 1) Either L&P is just a shitty dude who doesn't want to give other people the public acknowledgement and respect they deserve, or 2) He doesn't have anyone actually lined up and is lying. I really, really, hope that it isn't the second one, but the utter confusion around the status of his help raises a bunch of red flags.
Well said. I have been stating many of these concerns now since he announced his 'hires'. I am confident he has no qualms at doing an ICSTOR. Does not take much to evaluate how that was achieved and how it continues (ICSTOR currently has like 5k patrons). The recent delays and obfuscations do not portend a good ending.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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A post was made here by a patron stating that he has changed assistants 2 times during this update itself. First one left because of his own work, second one was bad and the third one is currently working with him. So technically there isn't anyone to credit. One first needs to find an assistant that will actually help in the long run and not just use L&P's page as a promotion ground and then leave the next month.
Jesus Christ, if this is accurate then it's always something with this game. If he's on his third assistant in less than two months, then something went wrong in the hiring process. How is it that nothing, NOTHING, ever goes according to plan for L&P?

Sometimes I think this game is successful despite L&P, and not because of him.
 

nexer

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Jesus Christ, if this is accurate then it's always something with this game. If he's on his third assistant in less than two months, then something went wrong in the hiring process. How is it that nothing, NOTHING, ever goes according to plan for L&P?

Sometimes I think this game is successful despite L&P, and not because of him.
GingerPickyGirl or GingerSweetGirl ?:sneaky:
 

armion82

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Well said. I have been stating many of these concerns now since he announced his 'hires'. I am confident he has no qualms at doing an ICSTOR. Does not take much to evaluate how that was achieved and how it continues (ICSTOR currently has like 5k patrons). The recent delays and obfuscations do not portend a good ending.
My first concerns about the game are from almost 4 years.
Now reading my old posts I was so naive to believe we will get first kiss Sophia/Elly,Sophia/Dylan and Sophia/Sam just one year after the start of the game.It took 4 years for Sam.And I can even imagine how much more will take for Dylan.
At the end of 2018 I was sure there is no way to finish the game in 4 years what was the claim.Or even in 6-7.
And some people still owes me an apology.
 

nexer

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Searching for the right person is a long process and it takes experience to make the right choice. L&P got a late start on the search and it's likely to be the second job for the helper found. So a few hours a day.
And one more thing, you have to be really good to pick someone worthy. And L&P didn't know much about Blender.
 
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