VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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Barretto24

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Pardon me, but your argumentation is a bucket load of rubbish. "Acting Lessons", "Deliverance", "Good girl gone Bad", "Tonie wanna get married", "Revenge for Jessika", "Love Change", Elsas Nightmares" are just a couple of great porn games, most of them slow burn with multiple choices which matter for the story, which were started around the time of AWAM or even later, but these games are now finished and complete!
"Pale Carnations", "Interns of Extasy Island", "Our Red String", "Midlife Crisis", "Rebirth", "New Earth", "Free Pass" are a couple of games, which are really great quality games, which have started later than AWAM, but will be completed in the next couple years and despite them being slow burns!
AWAM on the other hand will be finished in the 2050s at current speed! Many of us won´t even be here anymore by that time. Think just one moment about that number. Not a couple years, not 5 years or so, but over 30 bloody years! If you believe for one moment that this is sustainable, I have a very nice house in Kiruna to show you. I promise you a fair price, you will love it. It is very much slow burn until the mining operations will meet you.
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And are those games made by the same developer? No they aren't which immediately mutes your arguement as everybody leads different personal lives and has different personal situations AND the length of game is entirely at the developers discretion. Whether it's 5 weeks 5 months 5 years 5 decades or 5 centuries. It's the developers game and it's entirely his choice.

He may have a fulltime job elsewhere and this is a side project hobby that he can only do in his spare time. You don't know and it's wrong to judge. He is making the game for us, you need to remember that instead of badgering him or the development time....if you can't wait a few more days then that's a poor do and that's on you. The rest of us will sit back relax and wait til release day.

bluehound36 said:
I hate to break this to you but L&P has outdone even Mr. Dots in the terms of story telling blue balling. He went about a little over a year with his DmD game/vn before getting to any sex content. L&P has promised quite a bit for this game and in regards to the filthy route and all the options players can choose on that route, there has been zero sex content in 4 years time since he first started. Sure there's some of that on the good wife route with the husband but just barely a couple scenes. L&P is stretching the time frame out on how much content he actually gets out because so far, he's making money doing that. He use to release full playable days as updates. Now he barely releases a third of that as another poster already pointed out.

This is a joke considering he updated his rig to supposedly make his updates quicker and/or with more content than what he was originally managing to produce. Those of us still interested in it would like to see some or all of those old promises actually be kept, in which case, we'd go right back to providing support on his patreon. Otherwise, it's a pirate's life for me and all the others that got tired of hearing empty promises. This current update obviously being yet another of those empty promises that now, all his patrons will have to wait until next month just to see a third of an update of a playable day. Does that seem in any way reasonable or right to you what L&P is doing? I'd have called it unintentional about 2 years ago. The fact it's gone on this long however, that's intentional on his part for whatever his reason is and it's most likely a monetary reason or otherwise what some here refer to as milking.
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Again so what? It'll get there in the end. It's a long haul story about CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT and need I remind the moral code unless you wake up one morning and say to yourself I'm gonna bang my family or cheat on my husband/wife it's TELLING a STORY about Sophie and her eye opening relationship changing life. You are missing the point if all you want is to bang every update...
 
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Bishop Robert

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bluehound36 said:
No. I and everyone else, regardless of opinions, have every right to post here so long as we respect the rules of the forum itself. See, if i absolutely despised the game and the dev, i'd have removed this thread from my watch list long ago. Use to support the dev for a long time and even defended the guy here for the last several years. I honestly believed he was just having a bad time of things what with this being his first game/vn. He clearly knows what he's doing though at this point, followed through on upgrading his rig that he even posted up images of that fact long ago. The updates however became smaller and time between them increased. That says more than enough about his method of development and it's definitely not one i'm going to financially support after seeing several other devs pull similar behavior. It's like a broken record in essence and i'm done being fooled out of my money by people who have zero intention of keeping their promises, least of all finishing their games/vns or even in a reasonable time frame. As others have mentioned, some devs have started games/vns at roughly the same time this one did and some that started well after it and are COMPLETED and working on others now. Devs that were just starting out like L&P and some of them working with comparable computers and skills i'd imagine. I said it when he first started out, he had something that could be turned into something great if he focused and got it to completion. Instead, he's done nothing but drag it out as long as possible with every new year that passed. It's one thing to develop a slow burn erotic story but L&P has and still is pushing that to an absurd level by both cutting down on the content produced and increasing the time in which he releases each new update. These are legitimate and justifiable complaints. Don't like that? Tough titties i say.
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I raise a mug to you, my friend.
 
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bluehound36

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BloggsFred said:
He may have a fulltime job elsewhere and this is a side project hobby that he can only do in his spare time. You don't know and it's wrong to judge.
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LMFAO. You clearly weren't there when this first started then. He was in college originally and even had it set as a goal on his patreon once he reached a certain amount per month, he was going to quit said college classes and focus his full time on developing the game. It clearly wasn't a side project after reaching that goal. Strangely enough, the updates had a longer amount of time between them upon reaching that goal. Then again with reaching the goal of upgrading his computer. The updates came out slower and with less content. I'd say he's a promise breaker at this point.

BloggsFred said:
Again so what? It'll get there in the end. It's a long haul story about CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
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I already made my statements on that and i feel no need to rehash them in length with someone who clearly has zero reading comprehension skills not to understand said statements. The dude has slowed his development process down for the last several years since he first started out. It's absurd and some of us are no longer going to play the role of the fool in defending him for it. That's on him and nobody else for breaking his own promises. That's what those goals amount to once someone sets them and posts them up for all to see on one's own patreon page. In his case, they were clearly empty promises. Still hope he changes that behavior though but i won't hold my breath. If he does, i'll very likely start slowly supporting him again once i see consistent updates in the manner in which he originally set goals/promises for. So far, all i've seen is the exact opposite of that for the past 4 years. I refuse to tolerate that sort of behavior from developers on patreon by cutting my financial support to them. I've seen it far too many times.
 
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Can i suggest something guys? If you want L&P to start making bigger and more frequent updates (and eventually finishing the game) then STOP paying him. I'm 100% sure that when he sees his patrons disappear he will panic and put some work to it. As much as we love AWAM we know that a VN can be done much much sooner. He clearly milks the cow and we are ok with it?
 
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Can i suggest something guys? If you want L&P to start making bigger and more frequent updates (and eventually finishing the game) then STOP paying him. I'm 100% sure that when he sees his patrons disappear he will panic and put some work to it. As much as we love AWAM we know that a VN can be done much much sooner. He clearly milks the cow and we are ok with it?
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Don't know much about cows psychology - perhaps they enjoy being milked?
 
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And are those games made by the same developer? No they aren't which immediately mutes your arguement as everybody leads different personal lives and has different personal situations AND the length of game is entirely at the developers discretion. Whether it's 5 weeks 5 months 5 years 5 decades or 5 centuries. It's the developers game and it's entirely his choice.

He may have a fulltime job elsewhere and this is a side project hobby that he can only do in his spare time. You don't know and it's wrong to judge. He is making the game for us, you need to remember that instead of badgering him or the development time....if you can't wait a few more days then that's a poor do and that's on you. The rest of us will sit back relax and wait til release day.




Again so what? It'll get there in the end. It's a long haul story about CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT and need I remind the moral code unless you wake up one morning and say to yourself I'm gonna bang my family or cheat on my husband/wife it's TELLING a STORY about Sophie and her eye opening relationship changing life. You are missing the point if all you want is to bang every update...
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The problem is that the game was suppose to be completed already.Previous year.
Instead we are moving from 1 game day each month to 1/10 day on 1-2-3-4 months.
With that speed we won't see the most wanted sex scenes
Sophia/Dylan,Sophia/Ellie,Sophia/Patricia,Sophia/Sam
because the game will be abandoned before that.
 
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