xxxorro

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A woman who is being sexually blackmailed and is afraid for her public image will want to stay in her comfort zone as long as possible. That's why Sophia wears a bra on the way to school and changes her clothes there.
A woman who has been humiliated and is unsure about her feelings/excitement will want to get back into her comfort zone as soon as possible after class. Therefore, Sophia will put her bra back on after class.
She will change in the ladies room.
This makes it easy to tell how Sophia learns about the Jennifer event after class. She only has to overhear while changing that the girl has an appointment in the biology room and Aiden has the key to the school. Suspicious, Sophia will follow the 3 people.
Now this is a bit too deep psychological for a porn game, I realize that and so every other assumption described here in the forum is just as valid, but it is a simple explanation for the bra and why Sophia can observe the sex game.
This explanation is based on an as yet unexplained situation. Why does she have her bra on?
She put her bra on to see what? It would have been normal for her to pose in front of the mirror without a bra on to see what she looks like to those watching her. Sophia knows she won't wear it during class, right?
Pose with that bra on in front of the mirror for what?
I think you both make very good and valid points.
Concerning why she didn't wear the bra going to school for the previous two tasks, if we look back:
  • In the first one, with the buttoned shirt she was not really that revealing and she didn't care much.
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     s "(Actually, all Aiden said was that I can't wear a bra underneath. But nothing more!)" s "(That means if I just button my blouse up, no one should notice!)"
    s "(And because you can't see any straps through the blouse, that shithead will know that I'm still fulfilling my part of the deal!)"
    Sophia took her bra off and buttoned her blouse almost completely up."
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  • In the second one, Dylan was involved during the choice and the trying of the dress, she had her doubts and somehow speaking with Dylan she was kind of reassured by his approval, although she clearly was hesitating. And she removed the bra because of Aiden's request but also because Dylan kind of suggested it.
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    This argument is a little bit stretched, I admit, especially in the case Dylan is not there in which case you have the same final thoughts. So she is not comfortable to go dressed like that (better to avoid the collegues) but still she thinks she has no choice and that, after all, the dress does not go beyond her limits.

Now, in the 4th task we seem to have a similar scene when it comes to dressing for school with the usual dilemma and the internal monologue.
At the cost of being pedantic :), for me what L&P said about not going that revealing is the key.
She could first try the dress with the bra on (because she is wearing one anyway). She looks in the mirror and **probably** she starts to have doubts that this is really too much because of the short skirt, the stockings and the cleavage.
She might say this is enough for "that little turd" and decide to go with the bra and the white shirt covering most of the cleavage in the hope of confronting Aiden and lower his requests. Or as hzjujk says, stay in her comfort zone as long as possible before going to the ladies room to change right before class.

Both are scenario are possible, the first one has Sophia **trying** to be (a bit) more dominant and negotiate with Aiden, the second one a bit more submissive in complying with the orders.

Another aspect to consider is that if she visits Morello, we clearly see she's wearing the bra. If she goes to school **without it** she would have to come back home to put it on, but at that point she would also change completely her dress, if she doesn't feel comfortable in it.
Sure, she could have the bra in the purse but why bring it if you decide to take that risky outfit?
The feeling I have about Morello's scene is that she goes there right after school, like she had enough of Aiden's requests, she puts the bra back on and she rushes there hoping to find the solution to her nightmare. She is so angry and frustrated that she doesn't care anymore about the dress being revealing.
 

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Looking at how well "Free pass" dev interacts with community and delivers faster updates with way more content, i feel sorry for him that he has 1/10th patreons compared to L&P. L&P is taking his patreons for granted and delaying the updates(even though they are small). Moving out of L&P patreon to "After Choices".
Hey! A Freepass fan! I was thinking the same for a long time. Such a good game but less patreons, while this game with all the arguments, all the delays, has over 1600. It's like, people are saying 'L&P, keep doing what you are doing! We like being denied'

Crazy world
 

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A woman who is being sexually blackmailed and is afraid for her public image will want to stay in her comfort zone as long as possible. That's why Sophia wears a bra on the way to school and changes her clothes there.
A woman who has been humiliated and is unsure about her feelings/excitement will want to get back into her comfort zone as soon as possible after class. Therefore, Sophia will put her bra back on after class.
She will change in the ladies room.
This explanation is based on an as yet unexplained situation. Why does she have her bra on?
She put her bra on to see what? It would have been normal for her to pose in front of the mirror without a bra on to see what she looks like to those watching her. Sophia knows she won't wear it during class, right?
Pose with that bra on in front of the mirror for what?
I think you both make very good and valid points.


Now, in the 4th task we seem to have a similar scene when it comes to dressing for school with the usual dilemma and the internal monologue.
At the cost of being pedantic :), for me what L&P said about not going that revealing is the key.
She could first try the dress with the bra on (because she is wearing one anyway). She looks in the mirror and **probably** she starts to have doubts that this is really too much because of the short skirt, the stockings and the cleavage.
She might say this is enough for "that little turd" and decide to go with the bra and the white shirt covering most of the cleavage in the hope of confronting Aiden and lower his requests. Or as hzjujk says, stay in her comfort zone as long as possible before going to the ladies room to change right before class.

Both are scenario are possible, the first one has Sophia **trying** to be (a bit) more dominant and negotiate with Aiden, the second one a bit more submissive in complying with the orders.

Another aspect to consider is that if she visits Morello, we clearly see she's wearing the bra. If she goes to school **without it** she would have to come back home to put it on, but at that point she would also change completely her dress, if she doesn't feel comfortable in it.
Sure, she could have the bra in the purse but why bring it if you decide to take that risky outfit?
The feeling I have about Morello's scene is that she goes there right after school, like she had enough of Aiden's requests, she puts the bra back on and she rushes there hoping to find the solution to her nightmare. She is so angry and frustrated that she doesn't care anymore about the dress being revealing.
You're all missing the most obvious thing that's going to happen. The choice will likely be while she's at home getting dressed for work like it's always been done in previous updates. She'll likely have the option to keep the bra on or leave it off. The scenes with morello and at school with aiden will reflect that choice. It'll likely have an impact on the morello scene too if she goes in with or without a bra when she meets with him. No need to come up with convoluted ideas when the simplest thing will get the job done and progress the story either on good wife or filthy routes.
 

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xxxorro, I was looking at the same thing :ROFLMAO:
That bigger cleavage could be Sophia's attempt to fool Aiden. In the sense that, in the mirror, Sophia is checking what's visible from the front if the cleavage is bigger. The bra is noticed and then she decides to take it off.
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The meeting with Morello is still to be discussed :unsure:
 
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You're all missing the most obvious thing that's going to happen. The choice will likely be while she's at home getting dressed for work like it's always been done in previous updates. She'll likely have the option to keep the bra on or leave it off. The scenes with morello and at school with aiden will reflect that choice. It'll likely have an impact on the morello scene too if she goes in with or without a bra when she meets with him. No need to come up with convoluted ideas when the simplest thing will get the job done and progress the story either on good wife or filthy routes.
I think she'll put her bra on later. When and where remains to be seen.
 
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I think she'll put her bra on later. When and where remains to be seen.
Doubtful. The paths are all pretty clear. If she's on the aiden path, players will have the choice like always to either do what he says or not. If players choose not to, she'll wear the bra and if she chooses to follow his blackmailing, she'll go without it. The morello scene will definitely reflect that choice. If she's not on the aiden path, then there won't be any point to her removing the bra in the first place. Ya'll are coming up with convoluted ideas that typically make it difficult for any dev to keep their stories running smoothly without making minor and in some cases, major mistakes along the way. That's happened with other games/vns that had and have too many paths/choices to deal with. L&P is slowly headed in that direction and it's part of why his development time is slowing down. He's adding way too many paths on both routes, especially on the filthy route. Keeping things simple when there are a multitude of choices on two different paths is just logical. Trying to get overly creative can end up leading to mistakes.
 

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The position of her hand is a bit odd. Is she trying to pose sexy? Or scratching her head.
If it's the former, it's... concerning.
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The thing is that she definitely is not trying to pose sexy, she is being coerced into wearing this. So how I see it is as just a casual pose which she is not fully committing herself to because in her mind she is unsure or hesitant thinking about what she is going to do.
 

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Dylan returns home to find Elle sitting somehow pouting on the swing.




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Knowing how L&P thinks this is just going to be some quality sibling time the most we can hope for is Dylan looking at Ellie's boobs/ass through the clothes and maybe we'll see a kiss on the cheek (a BIG maybe) I don't think there are going to be any games in the pool or something similar, where something can happen is in the evening ak update 9
 
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Ha! And someone has already, played... Like simple games... early access and so on and so forth... Let's wait and get two updates for the price of one! For the sake of epic animation and sweet moans Sophia! :coffee::sneaky:
 

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Doubtful. The paths are all pretty clear. If she's on the aiden path, players will have the choice like always to either do what he says or not. If players choose not to, she'll wear the bra and if she chooses to follow his blackmailing, she'll go without it. The morello scene will definitely reflect that choice. If she's not on the aiden path, then there won't be any point to her removing the bra in the first place. Ya'll are coming up with convoluted ideas that typically make it difficult for any dev to keep their stories running smoothly without making minor and in some cases, major mistakes along the way. That's happened with other games/vns that had and have too many paths/choices to deal with. L&P is slowly headed in that direction and it's part of why his development time is slowing down. He's adding way too many paths on both routes, especially on the filthy route. Keeping things simple when there are a multitude of choices on two different paths is just logical. Trying to get overly creative can end up leading to mistakes.
I understand your point and I was also contemplating that possibility, i.e. that the choice for continuing with the tasks or deciding to ask Morello's help may come very early when she is dressing up. Again she looks in the mirror and she asks herself why continuing and she remember Morello etc.

It is for sure a possibility, my only counter point is why then she still decides to dress like that if she is about to break the deal? Looking herself in the mirror she could think "ok enough is enough I'll go see Morello after school", at that point the deal is off and she can dress however she wants (i.e. normal clothes) because she will tell Aiden to f**k off as soon as she see him in school.
 
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I understand your point and I was also contemplating that possibility, i.e. that the choice for continuing with the tasks or deciding to ask Morello's help may come very early when she is dressing up. Again she looks in the mirror and she asks herself why continuing and she remember Morello etc.

It is for sure a possibility, my only counter point is why then she still decides to dress like that if she is about to break the deal? Looking herself in the mirror she could think "ok enough is enough I'll go see Morello after school", at that point the deal is off and she can dress however she wants because she will tell Aiden to f**k off as soon as she see him in school.
But what if Sophia doesn't reach an agreement with Morello? There's a good chance she'll convince Morello, but...
In this case Sophia is playing both ends, the decision depends on Aiden's requirements. So, she goes without bra :ROFLMAO:
 
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