VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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nexer said:
Sophia will be a voyeur, unless Sophia gets stuck/hidden inside the classroom and unwittingly watches the scene with Jennifer.
I still think Sophia will walk into the classroom without anyone seeing her, at least at the beginning.
The reason is: The animation will use groans, .... which is harder to hear if Sophia were outside the classroom.
The scene with Jennifer is used with the purpose of increasing Sophia's appetite but also to broaden her knowledge of sex.
Now, L&P could have used 3 other characters for this, not Aiden. It's Aiden though, and Sophia will understand that a lot of sex and pleasure not just humiliation awaits her on this route.
So, I think Aiden will fuck Sophia and even give her to the others.
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Everyone loses sight of the fact that even Aiden's tasks can be completed without consequences
So there will always be an opportunity to just not participate
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nexer said:
Sophia will be a voyeur, unless Sophia gets stuck/hidden inside the classroom and unwittingly watches the scene with Jennifer.
I still think Sophia will walk into the classroom without anyone seeing her, at least at the beginning.
The reason is: The animation will use groans, .... which is harder to hear if Sophia were outside the classroom.
The scene with Jennifer is used with the purpose of increasing Sophia's appetite but also to broaden her knowledge of sex.
Now, L&P could have used 3 other characters for this, not Aiden. It's Aiden though, and Sophia will understand that a lot of sex and pleasure not just humiliation awaits her on this route.
So, I think Aiden will fuck Sophia and even give her to the others.
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It's a very long time to wait.
We control Sophia and it's up to us how far she goes.I think we'll have a choice: will Sophia enter the classroom or look through the glass.
 
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I think Sophia's participation will be much more active and she will not be a mere spectator. Let's remember that today is the last school day (PD 13), and the next school day is Tuesday (PD 17). On PD 13 is the "comfortable" solution and on PD 17 is the "complicated" one (it used to be PD 18, but LP changed it to 17).

Unless there were some out-of-schedule task between Saturday and Monday, we don't see Aiden again until Tuesday.

That leads me to wonder what might happen to make everything more difficult and the outing more "complicated". The only thing I can think of (apart from possible out-of-hours tasks where that happens) is that she is filmed doing the task or in the bonus sccene, in a way that compromises her a lot. I don't think that filming her seeing what happens would compromise her that much.
 
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Adolfo said:
I think Sophia's participation will be much more active and she will not be a mere spectator. Let's remember that today is the last school day (PD 13), and the next school day is Tuesday (PD 17). On PD 13 is the "comfortable" solution and on PD 17 is the "complicated" one (it used to be PD 18, but LP changed it to 17).

Unless there were some out-of-schedule task between Saturday and Monday, we don't see Aiden again until Tuesday.

That leads me to wonder what might happen to make everything more difficult and the outing more "complicated". The only thing I can think of (apart from possible out-of-hours tasks where that happens) is that she is filmed doing the task or in the bonus sccene, in a way that compromises her a lot. I don't think that filming her seeing what happens would compromise her that much.
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I wonder who would Sophia film her?
 
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Adolfo said:
I think Sophia's participation will be much more active and she will not be a mere spectator. Let's remember that today is the last school day (PD 13), and the next school day is Tuesday (PD 17). On PD 13 is the "comfortable" solution and on PD 17 is the "complicated" one (it used to be PD 18, but LP changed it to 17).

Unless there were some out-of-schedule task between Saturday and Monday, we don't see Aiden again until Tuesday.

That leads me to wonder what might happen to make everything more difficult and the outing more "complicated". The only thing I can think of (apart from possible out-of-hours tasks where that happens) is that she is filmed doing the task or in the bonus sccene, in a way that compromises her a lot. I don't think that filming her seeing what happens would compromise her that much.
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I don't know about Saturday or Sunday, but I think Monday will be the 5th task.

To get rid of Aiden I think Sophia would have to get something against him, something for a negotiation because supposedly the Morello route is closed :unsure:
 
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nexer said:
I don't know about Saturday or Sunday, but I think Monday will be the 5th task.

To get rid of Aiden I think Sophia would have to get something against him, something for a negotiation because supposedly the Morello route is closed :unsure:
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Or Sophia finally meet Aiden's uncle but it could be anybody from Alyssa/Karl or even the art teacher Xavier.
Excluding Chuck Norris jnr as I think that that solution is a bit too obvious
 
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I am touched by how people worry about how I spend my money. But I don't want to worry them, I know what I spend and why.

Sorry to disappoint the romantics and the deluded, usually game developers develop games to make money, and the more the better. When they say they want to tell a story, that what matters to them is their art, that they will finish the game even if nobody supports them, blah, blah, blah. It's usually a lie, and if it's not at first it ends up being a lie. Developing a game is hard work, it takes a lot of time.Normally, if a game developer doesn't make money, or doesn't make enough money, he or she quits (I miss Au Pair Innocence so much!). Of course there are very notable exceptions, such as Fragile Innocence of DarkLove https://f95zone.to/threads/fragile-innocence-v0-8-dark-love.42600/ which is absolutely free, is not on Patreon or Subscribestar, only on f95zone. Another example are the BeWilder games, like Noemi, Toscana, Rebirth https://f95zone.to/threads/noemis-toscana-rebirth-v0-17-1-bewilder.15069/ , this game despite the years that have passed and despite its extraordinary quality has few subscribers, and yet the developers continue with it because it is their passion.

But that is something exceptional, and LP is a creator who follows the general rule, if he doesn't make enough money he won't continue with the game.

This leads me to explain something very obvious, but which seems to need explanation, I contribute financially to the development of the game because I like it and I don't want it to stop being developed. Moreover, I can say that it is the erotic game I like the most, the one I enjoy the most.I love the evolution of the characters, the twists and turns of the story, the quality of the images.

So, if I like something and I have money to spend on it, why shouldn't I spend it. I've played this game since it was an RPGM and I've been a patron continuously for 4 years now, and I don't regret it for a moment.

Don't get me wrong, I wish the updates were faster, that Sophia was already fucking everyone (I've played every single possible path several times). But I don't think I'm being "milked"; this game simply has three pillars: the artistic quality, the script and the speed of updates. Well, speed for LP is less important than script and artistic quality. Each update involves a lot of work, the number of renders is no less than that of the average game and the quality is certainly much higher.

Of course, there are high quality games that move much faster, I'm thinking of BaDik, MDots games, Insanerotica games and others (I have played them and I pay or have payed for some of them). But I think that the image quality of LP games is superior (in my humble opinion) and it is very hard to find it; and when I find it, I find that the story is boring or the development is even slower than LP's (Jessica O'Neil's Hard News). The problem, or one of the problems, with this game is simply that LP has so far been unable to create a working team. There seems to be a glimmer of a team now with those helping him with Blender and Renpy, but I don't know if he's going to get there; he's finding it very hard to trust others. The truth is that this problem is to his detriment. If with over 4,500 pages on f95zone and the extraordinary quality of the game he has only about 1,700 subscribers, that means he's not "milking" anyone, it's simply his perspective on how to develop the game (extreme quality, slow story development, sex when it's actually believable, solitaire work) leads him to lose money.

The reality is that he doesn't milk, he loses money.

The other problem is the bad idea that LP had at the beginning of the game saying that it would last 30 days. That bullshit of the 30 days is a heavy slab, because in the end math is stubborn. I am one of those who, due to age (unless I go to cryogenization), if things doesn´t change I do not think I will see the end of this game (or I will be a bit old for fapping, who knows), but that does not prevent me from enjoying the before, during and after each update, figuring out what is going to happen and with whom That's what I like about this fórum (thanks to xxxroro, nexer, Dr. Fap, Lord Xanatos, hzjujk, Apollodore and others).

What I don't like are the contrived debates generated by haters and trolls that bore ad nauseam due to their repetitiveness. The comments are the same on page 1,000, as in page 2,000, as in page 4,000 and they will be the same in page 6,000: if LP milks, blah, blah, blah; what if 30, 35, 50 years blah, blah, blah; that if shota, incest, forced sex is bad blah, blah, blah, that if they have passed, 1,2, 3, 4, 5… n years and there is no sex blah, blah, blah. In fact, in 1,000 pages I will republish exactly these words and everything will be the same. I truly believe that some of those who participate in this forum suffer from some type of obsessive-compulsive disorder that should be treated by a specialist because they will be talking about the same thing, and not about the game, over and over again, and again for months and years. …
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So this whole long long long post is to tell us that you and the other supporters are hostages of L&P?

Because you say in summary that you do not want to stop paying for fear that he abandons his project.
In other words, you thought about stopping paying for a certain number of reasons that you cited in particular the legendary slowness of development, but you changed your mind because if you do, L&P could no longer develop the game.

And some of you claim to support art just for the sake of art. But we see there that you do it out of fear. It is far from being the principle of freedom to put up with something out of pure love.

And it's you who accuse people of suffering from obsessive-compulsive disorder!!!????

Can't you see that it's you who suffers from Stockholm Syndrome? Being stuck in a game that you love but whose pace of development and developer attitudes annoy you. You think about stopping paying, but you change your mind for fear that your hostage taker will disappear and no longer develop the game.

But what worries me about you and those who suffer from the same syndrome is that you never considered the possibility that if you make L&P income drop drastically, rather than giving up the game (because there he has a lot to lose), he will rather pull himself together and take serious measures to accelerate development. And we all know he has several possibilities that will help him go much faster but pretending not to see them while sinking the game into other ways that only slow it down even more.

You should know that it's posts like yours that reinforce L&P's position and make him do what he's doing to you supporters first.

Try to get rid of your Stockholm syndrome and rebel just once. You will see that L&P loves money much more than its art.
 
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Adolfo said:
I think Sophia's participation will be much more active and she will not be a mere spectator. Let's remember that today is the last school day (PD 13), and the next school day is Tuesday (PD 17). On PD 13 is the "comfortable" solution and on PD 17 is the "complicated" one (it used to be PD 18, but LP changed it to 17).

Unless there were some out-of-schedule task between Saturday and Monday, we don't see Aiden again until Tuesday.

That leads me to wonder what might happen to make everything more difficult and the outing more "complicated". The only thing I can think of (apart from possible out-of-hours tasks where that happens) is that she is filmed doing the task or in the bonus sccene, in a way that compromises her a lot. I don't think that filming her seeing what happens would compromise her that much.
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It wouldn't surprise me in any way if Aiden calls in the evening of the weekend and orders Sophia to a table dance bar for an audition. Not a permanent job, just an application. That would fit nicely into the corruption path - looking without touching - and would prepare Sophia for what's coming up in gym class on Monday. Showering together with the class in a UniSex shower of the school. (All of this is just a possibility).
 
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hzjujk said:
It wouldn't surprise me in any way if Aiden calls in the evening of the weekend and orders Sophia to a table dance bar for an audition. Not a permanent job, just an application. That would fit nicely into the corruption path - looking without touching - and would prepare Sophia for what's coming up in gym class on Monday. Showering together with the class in a UniSex shower of the school. (All of this is just a possibility).
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Gym class on Monday? I didn't know about that
 
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