VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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lockerxx

lockerxx

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wait did L&P show Logan with another Guy or just answer?By Patricia rules is not cheating :ROFLMAO: .
i wonder if Ellie will tell Dylan about her Bicurious experiences with Julia:unsure:
 
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Old Dog said:
He has already budged from his view(once that we know of)when he removed the "Twist".
Who do you think helped him build up his number?????F95 site and the forum where people discuss the game and also the Fan Art section.
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I bet he'll soon announce he's going to put off doing the next update so he can go back and remaster the beginning of the game with all new animations.
 
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Hay guys, please tell me how to make character or let we say how to make game like a wife and a mother, what do i need to prepare?? Please tell me guys
 
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If L&P really goes for Logan with a girl, then he is an ...! And his patreons show that in aggregate they are dumb as a rock! There is no halfway realistic possibillity to save the Logan-Ellie relationship if she catches him with another girl! This would invariably cancel out the Logan and friends date with Sophia, Ellie and Pat. One of the earliest possible chances for Sophia to go further, as we saw on the first date there is some chemistry.
For Dylan to give Ellie some good advice which has influence on the story is only possible if Logan showed some nudes of her or something unexpected happened. That can be repaired, in the case of the nude pics, that can even be used to accelerate things, if Ellie (and her inner exhibitionist) can be convinced that she should be proud of her body and that Logan would not do it if she wasn´t hot and he proud of her being his girlfriend. That could be good for the date of the 3 girls with Logan and Co.
But going for a relationship breaker is simply dumb!
 
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If L&P really goes for Logan with a girl, then he is an ...! And his patreons show that in aggregate they are dumb as a rock! There is no halfway realistic possibillity to save the Logan-Ellie relationship if she catches him with another girl! This would invariably cancel out the Logan and friends date with Sophia, Ellie and Pat. One of the earliest possible chances for Sophia to go further, as we saw on the first date there is some chemistry.
For Dylan to give Ellie some good advice which has influence on the story is only possible if Logan showed some nudes of her or something unexpected happened. That can be repaired, in the case of the nude pics, that can even be used to accelerate things, if Ellie (and her inner exhibitionist) can be convinced that she should be proud of her body and that Logan would not do it if she wasn´t hot and he proud of her being his girlfriend. That could be good for the date of the 3 girls with Logan and Co.
But going for a relationship breaker is simply dumb!
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I think the same. Surely it´s something that invigorates that path and also does it with Dylan.
 
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This happened

Was supposed to be end of january but then:
  • Only in february 10 he manages to allegedly hire an animator despite
    • ending the last update mid november
    • knowing he wanted to animate sex scenes since 2017
    • the story already being written since 2017
  • once february is getting to the end he says hes going to launch 0.155 in "about 3 weeks" (1 week left) because the animations are getting delayed and they're the best animations that'll make every animation from other games seem mediocre
    • says he'll work on 0.160 while the "special dev" makes the 0.155 animations
  • we're closing in on mid march and no sign of anything close to done, animations at 40/50%
    • he's now back to dropping shit teasers to hide the fact he's about to be 2 months late on what was supposed to be an end of january release.
  • he's at 4 months for not even a full third of a playable day
  • he managed to increase production time to deliver less renders, again
  • also said that if it wasn't for the animations he wouldve ended the update end of january (yeah right)
  • this 0.160 update should be ready in 4-6 weeks he said, lets see about that.


Regarding what you posted form Adolfo, I really enjoyed reading:
  1. "He's not milking"
  2. "I probably wont see the end of this game"

lmao, only someone in denial could think that an erotic game can take 20-30 years to create, L&P really has some patrons by the balls, its starting to get sad
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I believe that your statement is absolutely to the point.
 
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McZoy

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Adolfo said:
I am touched by how people worry about how I spend my money. But I don't want to worry them, I know what I spend and why.

Sorry to disappoint the romantics and the deluded, usually game developers develop games to make money, and the more the better. When they say they want to tell a story, that what matters to them is their art, that they will finish the game even if nobody supports them, blah, blah, blah. It's usually a lie, and if it's not at first it ends up being a lie. Developing a game is hard work, it takes a lot of time.Normally, if a game developer doesn't make money, or doesn't make enough money, he or she quits (I miss Au Pair Innocence so much!). Of course there are very notable exceptions, such as Fragile Innocence of DarkLove https://f95zone.to/threads/fragile-innocence-v0-8-dark-love.42600/ which is absolutely free, is not on Patreon or Subscribestar, only on f95zone. Another example are the BeWilder games, like Noemi, Toscana, Rebirth https://f95zone.to/threads/noemis-toscana-rebirth-v0-17-1-bewilder.15069/ , this game despite the years that have passed and despite its extraordinary quality has few subscribers, and yet the developers continue with it because it is their passion.

But that is something exceptional, and LP is a creator who follows the general rule, if he doesn't make enough money he won't continue with the game.

This leads me to explain something very obvious, but which seems to need explanation, I contribute financially to the development of the game because I like it and I don't want it to stop being developed. Moreover, I can say that it is the erotic game I like the most, the one I enjoy the most.I love the evolution of the characters, the twists and turns of the story, the quality of the images.

So, if I like something and I have money to spend on it, why shouldn't I spend it. I've played this game since it was an RPGM and I've been a patron continuously for 4 years now, and I don't regret it for a moment.

Don't get me wrong, I wish the updates were faster, that Sophia was already fucking everyone (I've played every single possible path several times). But I don't think I'm being "milked"; this game simply has three pillars: the artistic quality, the script and the speed of updates. Well, speed for LP is less important than script and artistic quality. Each update involves a lot of work, the number of renders is no less than that of the average game and the quality is certainly much higher.

Of course, there are high quality games that move much faster, I'm thinking of BaDik, MDots games, Insanerotica games and others (I have played them and I pay or have payed for some of them). But I think that the image quality of LP games is superior (in my humble opinion) and it is very hard to find it; and when I find it, I find that the story is boring or the development is even slower than LP's (Jessica O'Neil's Hard News). The problem, or one of the problems, with this game is simply that LP has so far been unable to create a working team. There seems to be a glimmer of a team now with those helping him with Blender and Renpy, but I don't know if he's going to get there; he's finding it very hard to trust others. The truth is that this problem is to his detriment. If with over 4,500 pages on f95zone and the extraordinary quality of the game he has only about 1,700 subscribers, that means he's not "milking" anyone, it's simply his perspective on how to develop the game (extreme quality, slow story development, sex when it's actually believable, solitaire work) leads him to lose money.

The reality is that he doesn't milk, he loses money.

The other problem is the bad idea that LP had at the beginning of the game saying that it would last 30 days. That bullshit of the 30 days is a heavy slab, because in the end math is stubborn. I am one of those who, due to age (unless I go to cryogenization), if things doesn´t change I do not think I will see the end of this game (or I will be a bit old for fapping, who knows), but that does not prevent me from enjoying the before, during and after each update, figuring out what is going to happen and with whom That's what I like about this fórum (thanks to xxxroro, nexer, Dr. Fap, Lord Xanatos, hzjujk, Apollodore and others).

What I don't like are the contrived debates generated by haters and trolls that bore ad nauseam due to their repetitiveness. The comments are the same on page 1,000, as in page 2,000, as in page 4,000 and they will be the same in page 6,000: if LP milks, blah, blah, blah; what if 30, 35, 50 years blah, blah, blah; that if shota, incest, forced sex is bad blah, blah, blah, that if they have passed, 1,2, 3, 4, 5… n years and there is no sex blah, blah, blah. In fact, in 1,000 pages I will republish exactly these words and everything will be the same. I truly believe that some of those who participate in this forum suffer from some type of obsessive-compulsive disorder that should be treated by a specialist because they will be talking about the same thing, and not about the game, over and over again, and again for months and years. …
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The game is really great and realistic enough but IMO nobody can accept a game with 2 updates per annum and 20-30 years to finish
 
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1lonegamer

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MILK THAT OBVIOUS COW!
That's ALL they are doing, this fking thing had s been in development for FIVE YEARS!!
Yeah, he is milking his Patreon like his prostate ffs.
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I wish I was joking, the poll results were posted, but to a higher paying tier.
 
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