dolfe67

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The danger of being raped is the same if she dresses as a nun.
Sure but why dress sexy to meet Aiden? For us viewers? Not dress shaming but the skirt is quite short, pants would have been better. Again, to meet Aiden, small gang leader and blackmailing her.

I don't think she's "corrupted" enough at this point to dress sexy for Aiden without him asking for it. In a "regular" porn game, that choice of outfit would be totally normal and accepted (and she would already have been fucking half of the town), but it's AWAM.
 

Sadowdark

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You make a number of well presented (and well illustrated) points. Thank you.

Regards Sophia now feeling "comfortable" or "accepting" around Aiden, I believe she is. Only I would go further and say Sophia is now beginning to feel subtly relaxed in Aiden's presence, even as he reads out the script to the next task she's about to complete.
Why?
Because ultimately she trusts him. In a way she has no choice. This can have many ramifications, including a sense of reliance toward him.
From her modest first challenge to go bra-less in class, the increased complexity of the tasks have now become a kind of kinky game Sophia wouldn't dare admit being excited by. We now have to discover how accepting and tolerant Sophia becomes in front of Andre, especially after what she recently witnessed with Jennifer. Because there will undoubtedly be some work she'll need to do to make her peace with Andre. Work which may cross a threshold she hasn't yet anticipated.

The reason Sophia trusts Aiden (to a degree) is because he's demonstrated on many occasions he doesn't just wield authority, but proved himself good to his word as long as the tasks are completed properly.
Sophia understands this, and maybe that's partly why she's feeling confident dressing in her choice of outfit for the hangout. Incidentally, it's a skirt/top, not a dress as some have described. This could also be important.

Whether we'll see Aiden dismiss his gang after Sophia's arrival (as before) remains to be seen. My guess it's going to be whether Morello's thugs turn up, and what thread players opt for.

From there, the road is close to the Stockholm Syndrome, which I wouldn't want at all
 

follardo

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Sure but why dress sexy to meet Aiden? For us viewers? Not dress shaming but the skirt is quite short, pants would have been better. Again, to meet Aiden, small gang leader and blackmailing her.

I don't think she's "corrupted" enough at this point to dress sexy for Aiden without him asking for it. In a "regular" porn game, that choice of outfit would be totally normal and accepted (and she would already have been fucking half of the town), but it's AWAM.
I'm sorry I can't agree that it's not corrupted enough. You seem to forget the number of horny scenes and her feelings after each Aiden's tasks.

Feelings like, "I like being humiliated and blackmailed, that makes me horny. I feel wet between my legs. Being almost naked in front of teenagers makes me horny, I like Aiden's cock etc." At this point in the story it would be normal for her to think that a little danger is the next step in her corruption. And I think the game needs this step.

I don't understand how some people think the game lost realism because of this dress. Where did you see realism in the filthy route?
 
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ancienregimele

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So, the outfit is not the inappropriate. The inappropriate it's the situation. No matter what Sophia is wearing. The danger of being raped is the same if she dresses as a nun.

Maybe she wouldn't be in danger if she dressed like that.
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It's possible for even beautiful women to become distinctly undesirable if they so choose. That weapon does it for me, never having appreciated the "girls with guns" fetish myself. Come to think of it the clothes act as more of a deterrent than some oufits I could mention, as they display no flesh, (even sensible gun-toting gloves in situ) & are not ridiculously easy to access.

If you've ever worked on a building site, or similar, you'll know that there's a male group mentality which exists. So, a pretty girl walks by..... 1 young, fit man working alone, glances up & maybe smiles & probably stares after her/ 2 young men working, speak to each other & if in ear-shot might say something to the girl....probably not too obscene, or even relatively harmless &/or flirtatious/ 3/ 6/ 9/ [you get the idea]/ 25 men of all ages, react with gestures, obscene suggestions of what they'd like to do, make animal noises (customarily a wolf), perhaps produce hand & other mimes & generally act out in ways that they'd never do on their own, while possibly trying to outdo each other. All of this plus any specifics about an outfit or certain modes of dress will be observed (which I think I've already covered but which could be added to if really necessary).....they have their own 'traditional' comments. Then a Foreperson turns up & puts a stop to it....or does he just smile, depending on mood?

There are 9 men in the place Sophia is attending & all are young, fit, of slightly varying ages & they already have a gang mentality, plus the foreperson is Aiden.....mood unknown at present. I rest my case.

Ooops just remembered, they're only there to add 'tone' to the scene. They'll all go away if he tells them to...... He will tell them...won't he?
 
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Dr.SigmundFap

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No it's not a bug in the code, Morello can happen if the task is fulfilled, if she chooses to stop or if she didn't exposed the breast during the 3rd task there is not even the possibility of accepting the task.

And your scenario is very possible IMO, I almost suspect that the initial choice to get the hell out of there could be even tied to Morello's choice: for example the choice could be only possible if she asked Morello's help as in that case she can leaving knowing that she has already a solution (which also brings in the question why going if you have a solution, but I diverge). Or it could be the other way around, if you asked Morello's help, she'll leave without a choice. Something like that.
When I made the statement about a bug in the code, it was about if she's in the car deciding to speak with Morello and the reader chooses it. It would cancel out her going to see him and let Morello's men show up in her place without her going to see him regardless. But now it appears that he wants this to happen now.

I thought it was either one or the other, but It looks like it would be a combo of both because it makes little sense to me to show up to listen to the 4th task in a sexy dress after you went to Morello for help. I'm curious how she would play it off with Morello's Men if she continue her meeting with Aiden after the request for help.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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I can live with the new outfit, but I think it would be helpful if we got a little bit of exposition from Sophia explaining to herself (and by extension, the player) why she chose to get changed before seeing Aiden. I don't even mind if it's attributed to her corruption. I'd just like to see Sophia say something like "I look really good. I'm getting kinda tired of always dressing so modestly, and I don't need Aiden and his blackmail as an excuse to dress in something cute. Fuck that kid, I'll do what I want." What would be dumb is if she goes there and is surprised that Aiden and his friends think she's dressed up. I want her to show agency over her decision making, and acknowledge that she's stepping outside of her normal boundaries. If she does that then I may be able to accept the outfit more easily.

To me, much of the game still feels like it's trying to have Sophia both ways. In her words she still sounds very naive and bashful, but in her actions she's increasingly corrupt. We need to see her character embrace her current level of corruption better, and one way to do that is by acknowledging that she's dressing differently and enjoying doing so.
 

ashitanojoe

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I can live with the new outfit, but I think it would be helpful if we got a little bit of exposition from Sophia explaining to herself (and by extension, the player) why she chose to get changed before seeing Aiden. I don't even mind if it's attributed to her corruption. I'd just like to see Sophia say something like "I look really good. I'm getting kinda tired of always dressing so modestly, and I don't need Aiden and his blackmail as an excuse to dress in something cute. Fuck that kid, I'll do what I want."
Sophia, already tried to justify his outfit election for Sam's concert in front of the mirror, but still some people were not convinced by her justification https://f95zone.to/goto/post?id=6991376
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Sophia, already tried to justify his outfit election for Sam's concert in front of the mirror, but still some people were not convinced by her justification https://f95zone.to/goto/post?id=6991376
The romper was poisoned from the very beginning and was always going to be criticized. The dialog was tacked on to justify that patrons' votes. Still though, in-game she's had some exposition about what she wears so it would be good to have more. I don't think this new outfit is as poisoned as the romper, so I think it can still work- but I think it would be mistake for L&P to not address it. It helps that the new outfit actually looks cute, whereas I thought the romper was just a poor design all-around.
 

ashitanojoe

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The romper was poisoned from the very beginning and was always going to be criticized. The dialog was tacked on to justify that patrons' votes. Still though, in-game she's had some exposition about what she wears so it would be good to have more. I don't think this new outfit is as poisoned as the romper, so I think it can still work- but I think it would be mistake for L&P to not address it. It helps that the new outfit actually looks cute, whereas I thought the romper was just a poor design all-around.
To be honest I think L&P chose that new outfit to make a hotter event instead of a Sophia's thoughtful decision, but we will see. Although, one justification could be Sophia thinking in an event after Aiden's one and decide to wear it already to not losing time for the next event.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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To be honest I think L&P chose that new outfit to make a hotter event instead of a Sophia's thoughtful decision, but we will see.
And that's ok. If he wants the outfit because he thinks it will make the scene hotter, that isn't necessarily wrong or lame. I mean, we're all dying for some fun in this game, so I'm not going to begrudge L&P for doing something that could make a scene more fun. But it'll be lame if he tries to write Sophia as unknowing that she's wearing something cute. L&P can put her in that outfit and still explain that Sophia made the active decision to wear it for some reason. What I don't want to see is her getting felt up in the alley while she says to herself "Oh no, my top is too loose. My boobs are falling out!" That would rank right up there with lame porn dialog when the pizza guy asks if I want sausage on my pizza.
 

PaxHadrian17

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If this VN is ever finished (i.e seemingly in the late 2030's at current update) I will probably do a playthrough with Sophia having some fun but being somewhat rational as to how far to push things (i.e. similar to my very first playthrough. However until then I will be playing with full suspension of disbelief, trying to maximise the number of Filthy points, in the hope that it gets to sexual scenes ASAP (with just one exception that we discussed a couple of episodes back)
Poser Voyeur, I'm thinking we are now into the 2040's, given 18 playable days left and more than 1 year (at current pace)/playable day update. To put it in perspective, AWAM's total development time will, if completed, span as much time as the period from the end of WW I to the beginning of WW II.

How many more playable days will go by before we get the...' Renpy/Daz/xyz software has changed so much that I am going to have to do a remaster, starting from day 1, but it's okay - everything will be in 8K with many animations (getting pushed on a swing, jumping on a trampoline, drinking coffee).'
 

Goga011

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I can live with the new outfit, but I think it would be helpful if we got a little bit of exposition from Sophia explaining to herself (and by extension, the player) why she chose to get changed before seeing Aiden. I don't even mind if it's attributed to her corruption. I'd just like to see Sophia say something like "I look really good. I'm getting kinda tired of always dressing so modestly, and I don't need Aiden and his blackmail as an excuse to dress in something cute. Fuck that kid, I'll do what I want." What would be dumb is if she goes there and is surprised that Aiden and his friends think she's dressed up. I want her to show agency over her decision making, and acknowledge that she's stepping outside of her normal boundaries. If she does that then I may be able to accept the outfit more easily.

To me, much of the game still feels like it's trying to have Sophia both ways. In her words she still sounds very naive and bashful, but in her actions she's increasingly corrupt. We need to see her character embrace her current level of corruption better, and one way to do that is by acknowledging that she's dressing differently and enjoying doing so.
Totally agree. It would be more erotic to hear Sophia thoughts about her behavior than guessing. I hope that she will do that on the beginning of the task. There is medical explanation, or at least an assumption, of her behavior. Masochism is quite common at female population. By some studies there is 40 - 70% of women who fantasize about some sort of masochism. Quote from MSD MANUAL "Women have been repeatedly and intensely aroused by being humiliated, beaten, bound, or otherwise abused; arousal is expressed in fantasies, intense urges, or behaviors."

It is obvious that Sophia is thrilled by risk situation. She risk at school to lose her job, she risk by riding bike to unknown place, and now she risk by going to allay. I think that she tries to justify her behavior by accusing Aiden's blackmailing, but in reality she desperately need that. Something like heroin addict.
 

ancienregimele

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Sophia, already tried to justify his outfit election for Sam's concert in front of the mirror, but still some people were not convinced by her justification https://f95zone.to/goto/post?id=6991376
L&P wanted the romper. It wouldn't have been 1 of only 2 choices in a (foregone conclusion) poll otherwise. He knows his (paying) audience, their demographic & how they'd vote. Polls give an impression of & in some cases do fulfil, the wish for Patrons to feel more involved. Then there's "plausible deniability" to be considered...
 

gabich69

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Hello guys. I didnt play since the last update. Can someone tell me how is the content on this 0.160? Did you spend a good time playing on this? Is sophia doing some naughty things? :D
 

hzjujk

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You make a number of well presented (and well illustrated) points. Thank you.

Regards Sophia now feeling "comfortable" or "accepting" around Aiden, I believe she is. Only I would go further and say Sophia is now beginning to feel subtly relaxed in Aiden's presence, even as he reads out the script to the next task she's about to complete.
Why?
Because ultimately she trusts him. In a way she has no choice. This can have many ramifications, including a sense of reliance toward him.
From her modest first challenge to go bra-less in class, the increased complexity of the tasks have now become a kind of kinky game Sophia wouldn't dare admit being excited by. We now have to discover how accepting and tolerant Sophia becomes in front of Andre, especially after what she recently witnessed with Jennifer. Because there will undoubtedly be some work she'll need to do to make her peace with Andre. Work which may cross a threshold she hasn't yet anticipated.

The reason Sophia trusts Aiden (to a degree) is because he's demonstrated on many occasions he doesn't just wield authority, but proved himself good to his word as long as the tasks are completed properly.
Sophia understands this, and maybe that's partly why she's feeling confident dressing in her choice of outfit for the hangout. Incidentally, it's a skirt/top, not a dress as some have described. This could also be important.

Whether we'll see Aiden dismiss his gang after Sophia's arrival (as before) remains to be seen. My guess it's going to be whether Morello's thugs turn up, and what thread players opt for.
Is that the gist of their contribution?
A blackmailer becomes trustworthy?
The blackmailer keeps what - his promises?
Sophia has been allowed to observe the situation with Jennifer. Not only that it should have become clear to her that if she doesn't manage to get rid of Aiden, she might end up as a "betting debt" at some point. And what is even more important, Aiden will never let her go, he will always threaten her with the danger for Dylan - as forgetful as he is - just like he does with Jennifer.
Also that he sticks to the terms of the assignments is not true. The 3rd task clearly showed that and that with it Sophia didn't feel "comfortable" or relaxed in a "subtle way" at all.
It may be that in her virtual world Sophia is such a stupid cow, with an infinite reset ability or forgetfulness, but not in my game.
 
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