VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[ancienregimele]

No wonder world is full of low IQ ppl cause in my country if you wanna get paid by month then deliver the work per month.
Its simple as it can be.

It's like that in my country & every country on Earth. It's not like that in Patreonland. [If you start a new job in the UK the norm is to work around a month before you get paid at all, (unless it's potentially dodgy cash-in-hand), regardless of whether you had zero money beforehand. Fuck-up during that time & you're out].

I got tired of the circular discussion & arguments years ago & have put forward ideas for Patreon to change, (because the only change we'll get from L&P, work pattern-wise, is to slow down some more) but you see I have no power to make this happen, nor does anyone here. That's why the same debate repeats over & over. It's a natural reaction to frustration.

So, in order to enjoy this VN, you have to accept that there is nothing ever going to happen to speed things up & go with the 'stagnant' flow. We need to be philosophical about it all. Problem is....with this PD, even I'm having difficulty with those calm thoughts.

 

[derek1957]

What? Over a hundred pictures, just for Sophia to learn the contents of the 5th task, we can see Morello's men beating Aiden's face and a possible hearty hug Sophia from Jennifer because she is now also rid of Aiden.
This can also be told with 30 pictures, because most of the event would only be dialogues between people.
But what I want to get at with this post is that it looks to me as if those who say that in this event the Andres revenge for the slap could play a bigger role are right.
If so, this will be another event where opinions will be divided. Some will say, what a shit, to have to watch Sophia being sexually abused. And others will say that Sophia had a look of pleasure on her face while Andre was groping her.

Coming into the meeting, depending on the decisions one took in the previous events, who is angry at who?

Is Sophia angry at Aiden? Besides the usual reasons, for lying about meeting alone? For the sexy outfit she is forced to wear? For their treatment of Jen? For not keeping Andre in line when he groped her bare butt?

Is Sophia especially angry at Andre for groping her?

Is Aiden angry at Sophia for breaking up his and Andre’s fun with Jen? (Personally, I think Aiden might be tired of Sophia constantly talking back to him and swearing at him. But maybe he doesn’t care since she ultimately completes the tasks.)

Is Andre angry at Sophia for slapping him? For thwarting his “animation” with Jen?

Is Andre angry at Aiden for not standing up for him when Sophia slapped him?

Is Aiden angry at Andre for groping Sophia and risking having her refusing future tasks?


I agree that at some point it seems likely that Andre will want justice for getting slapped by Sophia. In this release? Possibly. But if Sophia broke up their tryst with Jen, is that Sophia's bigger crime?

 

[hzjujk]

Coming into the meeting, depending on the decisions one took in the previous events, who is angry at who?

Is Sophia angry at Aiden? Besides the usual reasons, for lying about meeting alone? For the sexy outfit she is forced to wear? For their treatment of Jen? For not keeping Andre in line when he groped her bare butt?

Is Sophia especially angry at Andre for groping her?

Is Aiden angry at Sophia for breaking up his and Andre’s fun with Jen? (Personally, I think Aiden might be tired of Sophia constantly talking back to him and swearing at him. But maybe he doesn’t care since she ultimately completes the tasks.)

Is Andre angry at Sophia for slapping him? For thwarting his “animation” with Jen?

Is Andre angry at Aiden for not standing up for him when Sophia slapped him?

Is Aiden angry at Andre for groping Sophia and risking having her refusing future tasks?


I agree that at some point it seems likely that Andre will want justice for getting slapped by Sophia. In this release? Possibly. But if Sophia broke up their tryst with Jen, is that Sophia's bigger crime?

Yes, there are many possible constellations. But as a developer, I would make it easy for myself. And since the slap in Andre's face during the 4th task was unavoidable, I think that only it will play a role, be an anchor point for future events. Everything else, including the sex with Jennifer, I would drop if I were the developer. Otherwise, the decision tree would fan out too far.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Yes, there are many possible constellations. But as a developer, I would make it easy for myself. And since the slap in Andre's face during the 4th task was unavoidable, I think that only it will play a role, be an anchor point for future events. Everything else, including the sex with Jennifer, I would drop if I were the developer. Otherwise, the decision tree would fan out too far.

That's assuming this entire update isn't just an excuse for another Aiden event, since after this, we might not see Aiden again for years until we get to PD16, just as he has risen in popularity.

 

[Sadowdark]

Yes, there are many possible constellations. But as a developer, I would make it easy for myself. And since the slap in Andre's face during the 4th task was unavoidable, I think that only it will play a role, be an anchor point for future events. Everything else, including the sex with Jennifer, I would drop if I were the developer. Otherwise, the decision tree would fan out too far.

Eventually, Andre can wear an outfit that Sophia would not recognize him in, and he can get revenge on Sophia so that Aiden doesn't find out. For example, he accidentally met Sophia in the Mall.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Eventually, Andre can get revenge on Sophia so that Aiden doesn't find out. For example, he would have met Sophia by accident in the Commercial Centrum.

What possible revenge could Dre get that wouldn't require Aiden's uncle to bail him out? Assault of any kind could land him in juvie.

 

[TomUK]

Eventually, Andre can get revenge on Sophia so that Aiden doesn't find out. For example, he would have met Sophia by accident in the Commercial Centrum.

Andre doesn't have the get out of jail free card that Aiden has, so if he does anything, Sophie will just report him to the cops and he'll get thrown in jail, I don't see Aiden's uncle trying to get him off.

 

[Talcum Powder]

What possible revenge could Dre get that wouldn't require Aiden's uncle to bail him out? Assault of any kind could land him in juvie.

That’s not possible as all characters are at least 18 years of age.

 

[ancienregimele]

That's assuming this entire update isn't just an excuse for another Aiden event, since after this, we might not see Aiden again for years until we get to PD16, just as he has risen in popularity.

It's likely to be another 2 years or more. It's when consideration is given to factors of this kind & how each route progresses at the pace of a moving continent, that the over-arching ludicrousness of the situation really hits home. It's so slow, it's almost funny. [I said almost]. Well, "you've got to laugh, or else you'd cry" according to 'Tom Hark'.

"Motivation" is a topic within HR, that has books, articles, training films, lectures, letters, debates, etc., etc., devoted to it, many of which are within my working life experience. Yet I havn't got a friggin' clue when it comes to the Dev & AWAM.

 

[Alley_Cat]

It's likely to be another 2 years or more. It's when consideration is given to factors of this kind & how each route progresses at the pace of a moving continent, that the over-arching ludicrousness of the situation really hits home. It's so slow, it's almost funny. [I said almost]. Well, "you've got to laugh, or else you'd cry" according to 'Tom Hark'.

"Motivation" is a topic within HR, that has books, articles, training films, lectures, letters, debates, etc., etc., devoted to it, many of which are within my working life experience. Yet I havn't got a friggin' clue when it comes to the Dev & AWAM.

I'm more curious after this update if there's going to be a push by Aiden fan patrons to get to PD16 as quickly as possible, or if they're happy to wait the 2+ years with no content.

 

[Apexpredator47]

A wife and mother and 4 boys !
Dylan, Sam, Zac and Ayden. The four of them had erotic encounter with Sophia. But : with Dylan she did it for medical or social reasons . With Ayden she did it to protect her son . For Sam she had intimate time but it was Sam's initiative always though Sophia liked it . Zac the only character that Sophia initiate the moves with him .
Zac or Sam will be her first.

yes i agree its either zac or sam who will be her first. Id say sam because she can be alone with him pretty easily and also because i think shes done more stuff with him than zac.

 

[ancienregimele]

I'm more curious after this update if there's going to be a push by Aiden fan patrons to get to PD16 as quickly as possible, or if they're happy to wait the 2+ years with no content.

I know I won't but unless something else is cut, (cough...Jason & Haru), there's nothing to be done. EXCEPT, L&P could speed up...... ..... .....[Sorry there's a problem due to circumstances beyond our control. Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible].

 

[Alley_Cat]

I know I won't but unless something else is cut, (cough...Jason & Haru), there's nothing to be done. EXCEPT, L&P could speed up...... ..... .....[Sorry there's a problem due to circumstances beyond our control. Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible].

Yeah the museum date might be small. I don't think I'd be disapponted if it were cut. There's more opportunities for Patricia to get up to shenanigans during the ranch event anyway.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Yeah the museum date might be small. I don't think I'd be disapponted if it were cut. There's more opportunities for Patricia to get up to shenanigans during the ranch event anyway.

Agree. For all I care the museum date could be 10-15 renders: Sophia getting dressed; Sophia meets Patricia; arrive at museum and then fade to black:
Narrator: " the boys really tried to impress Sophia and Patricia but in the end it was kind of a meh experience for both."
Narrator: " Sophia decided to go straight home and take a shower before bed."

-- to be continued --

Honestly L&P, keep it moving. Your story will not be damaged if this piece goes the way of the dodo.

 

[lockerxx]

Agree. For all I care the museum date could be 10-15 renders: Sophia getting dressed; Sophia meets Patricia; arrive at museum and then fade to black:
Narrator: " the boys really tried to impress Sophia and Patricia but in the end it was kind of a meh experience for both."
Narrator: " Sophia decided to go straight home and take a shower before bed."

-- to be continued --

Honestly L&P, keep it moving. Your story will not be damaged if this piece goes the way of the dodo.

Nah Knowing L&P it will be a 400 Renders event where nothing happend.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Nah Knowing L&P it will be a 400 Renders event where nothing happend.

What do you mean nothing? Think back on the lecture we got from Xavier on task 3. Can you imagine what kind of rivetting, mind-expanding exposition he's going to lay down on a museum tour?

Joking aside, Light of My Life has a very nice museum scene between the landlord and his tennant, Denise, where eroticism in late-rennaisance and rococo period paintings is used to elevate sexual awareness, especially focused on the representation of incest themes from classical literature. So while there is definitely some meat on the bones for a character like Sophia I think it's gone well rancid by now.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Nah Knowing L&P it will be a 400 Renders event where nothing happend.

I don't think so. What I personally find so frustrating is that L&P has shown he can stick to a render budget, like he did for the Dylan/Emma event of v.130. The estimate he originally have was for 40 renders. He did it in 35. So he can stick to a plan, he just chooses not to for some of the recent Dylan and Aiden events, because he is getting away with it.

Even the last Ellie event, we had a whole bunch of revelations and hotter content, but in an event around a third of the render count of the following Aiden event.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Although, Leonardo da Vinci never finished a commission. It's the Patreon model that's no longer fit for purpose, IMO. It should be replaced with a straightforward customer/provider set-up. I don't say this lightly or negatively. I say this after seeing the situation deteriorate year on year for quite some time.

That is also true.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Nah Knowing L&P it will be a 400 Renders event where nothing happend.

And "hot af" animations of the tertiary characters dry humping the statues.

 

[Hrk19]

So, looking at the incredibly slow speed of updates, does L&P intend to just keep making just this one game, even after his hair goes grey and has grand children.?
cause it seems by the time this finishes, his own children will be 18 years old.