Alley_Cat

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it wouldn't work, Aiden's way of blackmail ends and Morello's begins. I see no way of blackmail with Patricia XD
The idea (if I have it right, since it's not mine), is that Patricia would be secretly working for Don Morello.

Patricia resolving the blackmail herself would just be what it is now - sending Dylan to boarding school and letting Carl's lawyers handle it.
 

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it would be cool if Morello's boys would break the right hand of Andre... you know, the hand that gropped Sophia's butt :mad:

muscle guy: mrs. Sophia, could you show me the guy who did that thing you said...
Sophia points him out :mad:
ok you little piece of shit, come over here...
Andre tries to run but nah... the guy takes him down and BAM! snaps his arm...:eek::oops: there you go little guy, all done now :giggle:
who's next? :devilish:
 

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it would be cool if Morello's boys would break the right hand of Andre... you know, the hand that gropped Sophia's butt :mad:

muscle guy: mrs. Sophia, could you show me the guy who did that thing you said...
Sophia points him out :mad:
ok you little piece of shit, come over here...
Andre tries to run but nah... the guy takes him down and BAM! snaps his arm...:eek::oops: there you go little guy, all done now :giggle:
who's next?
Then
Sophia: Thank you so much Mr. Muscle Guy for your help.:love: Umm..I-I am a little short on cash, is there any other way I can pay you back. :sneaky:
 
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ancienregimele

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it would be cool if Morello's boys would break the right hand of Andre... you know, the hand that gropped Sophia's butt :mad:

muscle guy: mrs. Sophia, could you show me the guy who did that thing you said...
Sophia points him out :mad:
ok you little piece of shit, come over here...
Andre tries to run but nah... the guy takes him down and BAM! snaps his arm...:eek::oops: there you go little guy, all done now :giggle:
who's next? :devilish:
There's no actual need for that. There wouldn't be any unnecessary expenditure of time & effort in RL, over & above what was required to get the desired result. Remember Morello's soldiers are experienced professionals. So, unless we're about to see some unrealistic drama, which is always a possibility, I'll be disappointed if this happens. Ordinary threats, possible physical manhandling & well-chosen language should suffice. Who knows, the Dev might decide to please the Aiden haters as there's nothing to lose by it now that the route is ending for some fans....except realism.

All this white knight style desire for revenge is almost touching in it's way. Does it speak to a deeply held sense of old-fashioned chivalry, or is it just a result of too many "wham, splat, pow" games? Personally, I'm really looking forward to the Don Morello solution whatever happens, not because I've chosen it but because the anti-blackmail lobby will have to find some other aspect of the VN to ride.
 

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it would be cool if Morello's boys would break the right hand of Andre... you know, the hand that gropped Sophia's butt :mad:

muscle guy: mrs. Sophia, could you show me the guy who did that thing you said...
Sophia points him out :mad:
ok you little piece of shit, come over here...
Andre tries to run but nah... the guy takes him down and BAM! snaps his arm...:eek::oops: there you go little guy, all done now :giggle:
who's next? :devilish:
Ahm, Sophia does not want Aiden to be beaten but only intimidated. As she said, he is still her student. But who knows, everything is possible.

However, I will play both path because I can't see difference between this two routes. Both Morello and Aiden treat Sophia as an object.

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Morello will treat her as a cow. And cow for a bull is just one more cow, and nothing else. ;)
 

ancienregimele

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Ahm, Sophia does not want Aiden to be beaten but only intimidated. As she said, he is still her student. But who knows, everything is possible.

However, I will play both path because I can't see difference between this two routes. Both Morello and Aiden treat Sophia as an object.

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Morello will treat her as a cow. And cow for a bull is just one more cow, and nothing else. ;)
Well spotted. It never ceases to amaze me how some fans are so consumed with anti-blackmail sentiment that they sincerely think enlisting the help of the Mafia is a "comfortable solution." It's not a case of "jumping from the frying pan into the fire", more a case of plunging headfirst into the flames of Hades.
 

Alley_Cat

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Well spotted. It never ceases to amaze me how some fans are so consumed with anti-blackmail sentiment that they sincerely think enlisting the help of the Mafia is a "comfortable solution." It's not a case of "jumping from the frying pan into the fire", more a case of plunging headfirst into the flames of Hades.
Kinda why for me, the "comfortable solution" is actually to say fuck off to Aiden right at the beginning and let Carl handle it, who so far is more than happy to, just for shits and giggles.

That said, for me, it's pretty weak blackmail anyway, since Sophia hasn't done anything wrong in the first place. I tried the blackmail route in DDoS a while back, since the opportunity arises for the MC to help someone cheat on an essay. For which the blackmailer (Ms Harper) threatens to kick both characters out of school for academic misconduct. So very real consequences for the MC in refusal of the blackmail, even if the content is still better at the moment.
 
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I find L&P's answer very interesting:

Can someone explain to me how has the development speed increased. 140 renders = 5 weeks; last update 514 renders 22 weeks. Seriously I really like to know your train of thoughts on the claim that the pace has increased. What’s really the endgame here 15 to 30 years? We are 6 months in and barely 20% of a single playable day has been developed.


You cannot count it this way. It depends on the scene and how the renders have been created and used. Last update from the 514 renders, around 70 were used for animation frames. Here all 140 renders are actual scene renders and the animations aren't counted as renders. Otherwise it'd be around 400. Plus the alternative scene with Morello's boys contains up to 16 characters which of course complicates the work! And that I put especially much effort into the art which is time consuming as well, I guess you know.
If he finds the 16 characters difficult maybe he shouldnt put so many because he is doing his job harder and in conclusion making less renders
 
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Before the thread goes berserk as usual let's make a quick recap of v0.161.

If Sophia fulfilled the 4th task she will be meeting Aiden at his hideout to get the 5th task assignment.
A possible curiosity is that this event may be the first one with two different outcomes based on previous choices (i.e. Sophia asked Morello for help) as opposed to the "usual" in which the outcome is determined by the current choices.

Technical
  • Unless something has changed, the update system is still not working . So probably it will be released the old way.

  • This was supposedly a short update, we now know that it consists of 140 renders. Most probably it was taken out from the previous one to be a stand-alone (it was not even on the list of events, but that could be to avoid a spoiler).

  • We now know that there are also 2 animations @ 30fps. The one that has been released as teaser, a nice cinematographic sequence of Sophia entering the hideout and noticing that Aiden is not alone, won't be part of the release

    Probably both of them will be part of the Aiden meeting, unless there will be a fighting animation when Aiden meets the Morello's boys ;)

The Dress
  • In the previous update we left Sophia dressing up for the meeting
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    The dress sparked a lot of discussions because, while cuter than the boob pockets used for Sam event, it didn't seem appropriate for the meeting with your molester. The many theories behind it were finally solved by L&P post: apparently an important piece of dialogue here has been lost during translation or proofreading in which Aiden required Sophia to be dressed in a certain manner for the meeting.

  • So the first thing to do with the new update is to go back to the end of the 4th task, just before the break and the bonus scene (jump day20_School_break for those who knows how to use the console), when Aiden talks to Sophia about the meeting and see how it was meant to be.

  • It will be still interesting to see if the update will include some inner thoughts about the dress, like it happened in the morning in front of the mirror, before going to school. She might comment on the dress choice, we don't know how specific was Aiden request, probably generic and similar in spirit to the "lascivious business style with sexy stockings" for the previous task.

The meeting
  • She is supposed to meet Aiden alone, as per her request during the school break, but already in those dialogues it was clear that she had a bad feeling about it.
    It's interesting to see if the request for the type of dress was also the reason for Sophia asking for a meeting without gang members: it could be on the same pattern of previous task in which there is some sort of bargain (the baseball cap, the smartphone etc). Or, more simply, she didn't just want to take the risk of the first meeting there.

  • In the first teaser, unsurprisingly, we see that 7 gang members plus André are present.
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    As L&P put it, she might have the option to cancel the meeting and get the hell out of there.
    Here it is interesting to see if this choice is somehow tied to the choice of asking Morello for help. For example, it could be that, knowing that she has Morello support, she will leave the scene immediately (no player choice) or only in this case she has the choice. Or simply she has the choice no matter the previous events.
    The latest post by L&P (there are 2 events) tends to support the first option, i.e. with Morello help Sophia gets the hell out of there and then Morello's boy pay them a visit.

  • Just a funny coincidence, we have 7 gang members + Aiden + Andre, just like the 7 art students + Aiden/Ares + Xavier.

  • The major point here is what is gonna happen at the meeting. It's strange that Aiden would ask her to meet just to tell her the next task to be done elsewhere and in another moment. Most of discussions in the thread covered 2 main possibilities:
    1. the 5th task will happen there (it would be the first time with 2 tasks in one day).

    2. he will give her a task for another time and the meeting could be just an excuse to have a sort of "show", especially now that we know he asked for a particular dress style.
  • Both options intersect the other question about the gang members. Will they stay or, like the first meeting, Aiden will dismiss them to be alone with Sophia (and possibly André)?
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    Option 1 would most certainly require the gang members to stay, as the tasks are designed to humiliate Sophia as it has been clearly stated during the last discussion in the hallway. On the other hand, this scenario would have a less erotic tension than the classroom settings where she has to expose herself making it look like an incident or concealing her actions. Here it would be just humiliated in front of "strangers".
    And an event with only Aiden and André would also be less interesting for the eroticism. (e.g. he could have already asked to not cover herself while removing the bra in the hallway, but it didn't and that's it is part of the erotic game of "incremental" exposure).

    Similarly, option 2 would suggest that Aiden has some "fun" with Sophia before giving her the real task, as it already happened for task 2 (show panties to the 2 of them) and 4 (remove the bra). This is also supported by the dress request, otherwise why bother asking for a certain dress style.

    Either way, since there are 2 animations something has to happen, it won't be just a bunch of dialogues.

  • I suggested another possibility for the task, in which she will do something (whatever it is) not just for the benefit of the gang but e.g. for random passer-bys of the neighborhood, like e.g. from inside one of the buildings an attentive passer might be able to peep through a window to see Sophia performance. So that some erotic tension for Sophia would be preserved, like being watched in incognito by some strangers (similar to the 3rd task).


Morello

  • If she asked Morello for help, the meeting could go very differently, potentially with Morello's boys showing up in the middle of the task/show "to save Sophia". It has been suggested that Sophia, seeing the gang members, leaves and see the Morello's boys action from a hidden spot.
    After the recent post, it seems that the 2 events may be quite different (Either Aiden meets Sophia or Morello's boys, depending on your decision.) so it is even possible that there is no "chivalry" coming to the rescue because Sophia might not be there in the first place.

  • And how this will play out, will it be just a "gentle" warning to leave Sophia alone (as in "an offer they cannot refuse" ;) ) or some form of violence will be shown? Will be there other quotes/references to the Godfather movies? :)

  • We now know that the scene will involve up to 16 characters, so 9 from Aiden and 7 from Morello (or 6 if Sophia is there).

  • And even more interesting is what will happen after that, will Aiden behave or e.g. will he be missing from school for a period? (Let's just hope it won't start a war between Morello and Aiden's uncle, we have already enough branches!!! :) )


Andre/Aiden/Jennifer

  • Another interesting point is to see what happens with André. He has been rightfully punished for what he did in class and he threatened Sophia. Will he play a role in the task/show trying to get his revenge?

  • When Sophia stopped the threesome, Aiden was annoyed but he let it pass ("I'll let it go this time. For now."). Will be that another variable in the development event? Maybe just some optional dialogues or the actions will be a little different? André was annoyed because he was getting his payback for the bet and it could also add to the above point.

  • Will Jennifer be mentioned at any time, especially in the Morello route since Sophia asked to also protect her?
 
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