- May 14, 2018
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this game start a really good story but are too much late for a progress...minimun whant another year for stay with son or douther.....
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- Dec 21, 2019
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So... a few people saw her tits? And that's the most sexual situation she's been in so far? And this took 5 years of development? And people still pay for this?
I want out of this timeline.
I want out of this timeline.
So has this gone back to just one game? Or do we have to jump through invisible hoops, that don't seem to be there to play the second one?
- Dec 22, 2017
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If we put aside all the negativity from the latest update and take a sober look at the whole picture as a whole, then what we see is that one person (as far as I know he works alone, although I could be wrong) took on an overwhelming burden. His "brainchild" is currently too "heavy" for him - 1) too many plot forks, too many characters who are either given too much screen time or forgotten about them FOR FIVE YEARS!!!!! (you still remember the guys who invited Sophia and her sister to the museum, I'm still waiting for this shit), 2) because the game looks very cool (it's stupid to argue, the game only gets more beautiful from time to time, this great) this slows down its production + the developer started adding animated inserts (again, they look very cool), which further slow down the production of an already slow game. If you remember, at first the developer promised to release new versions every few months during a whole game day, then he broke it in two, then into three parts, and now he has become so insolent that he is releasing one damn event, which in terms of length does not justify any of the money that he received are entered by sponsors on a monthly basis (at the dawn of this project, I also supported it, but quickly realized that the project was starting to stink), nor those hopes and expectations of the fans.
This game can be compared with many projects, but I would like to give a few examples that seem quite similar to me - 1) Jessica O'Neil's Hard News and 2) Timestamps - Lost Love. Both games have great visuals, there is music, animation inserts. Both games are also being developed for a LONG time, but only the first game is similar to A Wife and Mother - absolutely the same minuses and problems with production. But the second game is being developed for almost half a year, but when it comes out you get exactly what you expected (continuation of the plot, and not marking time in one place, and a lot, a lot of sex, for which people play these games in the first place).
To summarize, the developer URGENTLY needs help in the production of the game, or if he is already being helped, he needs to cut everything superfluous with a knife (plot, characters, maybe lower the quality of the visual), because if he continues to delay the deadlines, release a stub and milk his audience, it is better for him to just close this project.
This game can be compared with many projects, but I would like to give a few examples that seem quite similar to me - 1) Jessica O'Neil's Hard News and 2) Timestamps - Lost Love. Both games have great visuals, there is music, animation inserts. Both games are also being developed for a LONG time, but only the first game is similar to A Wife and Mother - absolutely the same minuses and problems with production. But the second game is being developed for almost half a year, but when it comes out you get exactly what you expected (continuation of the plot, and not marking time in one place, and a lot, a lot of sex, for which people play these games in the first place).
To summarize, the developer URGENTLY needs help in the production of the game, or if he is already being helped, he needs to cut everything superfluous with a knife (plot, characters, maybe lower the quality of the visual), because if he continues to delay the deadlines, release a stub and milk his audience, it is better for him to just close this project.
- Jul 20, 2019
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No. Ellie, Dylan, Patricia (plus Claire and Marie) have seen Sophia completely naked. Ellie has even kissed and groped her while doing so. Almost got her jilling off teaching Ellie how to orgasm. Dylan has groped her butt, but she was clothed at the time
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you need to tell which route u want
and at 1st page has some saves
- Dec 29, 2021
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What a story. The woman who has been kissing her feet for years dresses extra hot to go to the boy she hates so much and knowing that there are more boys she hates too and then lets herself be touched and then shows her tits noticing until the end that she has a pepper spray?? 
I wonder who has more deficit here, the main character of the story or her followers??
I wonder who has more deficit here, the main character of the story or her followers?? 
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- Aug 15, 2019
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After playing this update my libido decreased.. i ordered testosterone booster now..
This update confirmed the direction that Aiden's route is taking, both for what happened during the meeting and for the initial dialogues before Morello's boys enter the scene ("In two weeks..."). It is really moving towards pure humiliation, whether it is in front of the students or in front of the gang members.
Probably I'm a broken record, but I feel that it is moving away from the eroticism to embrace a more "classic" porn approach. In that I completely agree with what GingerSweetGirl wrote. **For me** there was nothing erotic in what happened during the meeting, the erotic tension that a reader could feel, at different extents, during the previous tasks has completely gone.
The scene in which she shows the breast felt somewhat "flat" **for me**, no emotions, just a semi-naked woman in front of strangers. Compare that e.g. with the same scene in Larry's visit with all the build up and the thrill of being seen by others, you see that there is something really different going on.
Same for the groping, it felt almost a remake of the tube station scene, nothing really erotic there, IMO.
And, to be clear, it's not a critic because it's a matter of personal taste, it simply doesn't do it for me. De gustibus.
It is a clear shift from the previous tasks. Sure not all the tasks can be well thought and presented like the 3rd one: whether one liked it or not, one must at least admit that there was an effort in presenting something different than the usual cliché/trope.
He said that the first 4 tasks up to Morello solution wouldn't have been that extreme, probably now if you miss the Morello's chance we are headed to more classic porn stuff. And I don't say it in a derogatory way, it's simply moving towards a different thing. And all this, I'll say it once again, keeps reminding me of that apocryph "So, will she stay the good, faithful wife or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon?" of the OP. We don't know where it comes from but it seems that the Aiden path is going into that direction. Which, again, there is not right or wrong, it's a choice and probably can make sense if you really wanna have a darker route like that.
Now if I allow myself to make a critical remark about this update, I will join what jamdan said in his post. The end of the meeting, whatever choice you make, beside leaving immediately the meeting, felt very rushed and not on par with standard of quality of this game. I would have expected at least the "usual" scene in the car or at home where Sophia recollects her thoughts on what happened. We often discussed about Sophia "resetting" after each event, but after what she went through going home and watching TV it's really a "hard reset"!
One of the good things of this VN was the attempt to dive deep into the MC, expressing her feelings, convey her emotions and try to rationalize the choices and the events. With obvious ups and downs in the effort but generally with good results. And that gave a great level of immersion. So I really felt that the end was rushed and some Sophia's perspective should have been done other than a simple sentence. Even during the event there were less space for her inner thoughts, before and after the choices.
IMO one thing is that a the story goes down to a path that I might not like or being particularly interested in, but if even the quality and the "little things" that made the VN stand out are disappearing (ok, it could be just an update, but I can see other signs even in the previous) that is much more worrisome to me.
Probably it is also an effect of the new development cycle that does not help the continuity of the scenes. And, as I was afraid when announced, that also gives him the temptation if not the necessity of feeling the vacuum of a short update with more content that was not planned. I'm saying this because I will come back with a crazy theory of mine.
To end in a more positive note and at the cost of GingerSweetGirl feeling stalked I too stopped on that expression of Sophia during the playthrough, really vivid and beautifully rendered IMO. Which, incidentally, would be also my expression while reading through the update.
Probably I'm a broken record, but I feel that it is moving away from the eroticism to embrace a more "classic" porn approach. In that I completely agree with what GingerSweetGirl wrote. **For me** there was nothing erotic in what happened during the meeting, the erotic tension that a reader could feel, at different extents, during the previous tasks has completely gone.
The scene in which she shows the breast felt somewhat "flat" **for me**, no emotions, just a semi-naked woman in front of strangers. Compare that e.g. with the same scene in Larry's visit with all the build up and the thrill of being seen by others, you see that there is something really different going on.
Same for the groping, it felt almost a remake of the tube station scene, nothing really erotic there, IMO.
And, to be clear, it's not a critic because it's a matter of personal taste, it simply doesn't do it for me. De gustibus.
It is a clear shift from the previous tasks. Sure not all the tasks can be well thought and presented like the 3rd one: whether one liked it or not, one must at least admit that there was an effort in presenting something different than the usual cliché/trope.
He said that the first 4 tasks up to Morello solution wouldn't have been that extreme, probably now if you miss the Morello's chance we are headed to more classic porn stuff. And I don't say it in a derogatory way, it's simply moving towards a different thing. And all this, I'll say it once again, keeps reminding me of that apocryph "So, will she stay the good, faithful wife or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon?" of the OP. We don't know where it comes from but it seems that the Aiden path is going into that direction. Which, again, there is not right or wrong, it's a choice and probably can make sense if you really wanna have a darker route like that.
Now if I allow myself to make a critical remark about this update, I will join what jamdan said in his post. The end of the meeting, whatever choice you make, beside leaving immediately the meeting, felt very rushed and not on par with standard of quality of this game. I would have expected at least the "usual" scene in the car or at home where Sophia recollects her thoughts on what happened. We often discussed about Sophia "resetting" after each event, but after what she went through going home and watching TV it's really a "hard reset"!
One of the good things of this VN was the attempt to dive deep into the MC, expressing her feelings, convey her emotions and try to rationalize the choices and the events. With obvious ups and downs in the effort but generally with good results. And that gave a great level of immersion. So I really felt that the end was rushed and some Sophia's perspective should have been done other than a simple sentence. Even during the event there were less space for her inner thoughts, before and after the choices.
IMO one thing is that a the story goes down to a path that I might not like or being particularly interested in, but if even the quality and the "little things" that made the VN stand out are disappearing (ok, it could be just an update, but I can see other signs even in the previous) that is much more worrisome to me.
Probably it is also an effect of the new development cycle that does not help the continuity of the scenes. And, as I was afraid when announced, that also gives him the temptation if not the necessity of feeling the vacuum of a short update with more content that was not planned. I'm saying this because I will come back with a crazy theory of mine.
To end in a more positive note and at the cost of GingerSweetGirl feeling stalked
I too stopped on that expression of Sophia during the playthrough, really vivid and beautifully rendered IMO. Which, incidentally, would be also my expression while reading through the update. 
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Interestingly enough, even though very modest on content, this update has not sparked the usual outpour of uncontrollably angry comments, threats and personal exchanges. It seems as all it takes is a relatively prompt update...
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