VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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This wrong person has become the creator of the game, he could have entered the field of politics and he could have become one of the biggest politicians in the world. He is really very cunning, he stops progress with various excuses and people fall into his trap and start commenting, and this is how the creator of the game achieves his goal of stopping progress, all his annoyances in He gave you 6 years to give him back by banning him. To understand the meaning of hurting. I don't know why you are so involved in this game?! While there are many other games of amazing quality with a healthier (intellectually and personally) creator. If this game was in the hands of those other creators, by today you would have seen Sophia 10 times, who at least had a relationship with Dylan, Sam, and Zach and ...
 
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You know, i've been thinking about this too. There is a very high probability that he is no longer just bored of working on awam, but is even beginning to quietly hate awam. Or has been hating his work on awam for years now just like we are hate our jobs. That explains everything that happens with this game and especially the long intervals between updates and the extremely vague future of the game.

God went crazy, lost connection with reality, got tired, burned out and the more he rests, the less he wants to do his duty.
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When I was playing Part 1 of this game without any forum activity, I felt at some point that this game was losing its life.

And I was happy when part 2 was released.
Because I thought this developer was trying to ignite his will again.

But contrary to my expectations, Part 2's first update disappointed me (since then until now), I thought this developer was trying to fill the update with meaningless scenes and I was angry because I thought it was an act of this developer deceiving the players.

So I came to this forum and read the old posts.

This developer despised subscribers requesting sex scenes. (7 years later, there are still no sex scenes with Sofia. Except for her husband.)
This developer said he wanted to repent to God for this game he was making. (even though the game is still in progress)
This developer said he wanted to make a work of art, not a porn game. (while making a porn game)
This developer said he doesn't want to stay with this game for long. (Of course, this was what he said to subscribers who were curious about the entire development period)

And when people asked to shorten the update interval even if the number of events was reduced, this developer only reduced the number of events and kept the update interval the same. (This is why there are only 1 or 2 events per update.)

Now this developer wants to change Sofia's face. (Even the main character)

I think this speaks volumes about how this developer thinks about this game.
 
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This wrong person has become the creator of the game, he could have entered the field of politics and he could have become one of the biggest politicians in the world. He is really very cunning, he stops progress with various excuses and people fall into his trap and start commenting, and this is how the creator of the game achieves his goal of stopping progress, all his annoyances in He gave you 6 years to give him back by banning him. To understand the meaning of hurting. I don't know why you are so involved in this game?! While there are many other games of amazing quality with a healthier (intellectually and personally) creator. If this game was in the hands of those other creators, by today you would have seen Sophia 10 times, who at least had a relationship with Dylan, Sam, and Zach and ...
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Bro, this is not a crafty developer, but the patrons are feeble-minded. A sane person would have stopped spending money on this fake a long time ago. If this developer tried to release updates more often, rather than engage in fraud, then it would be possible to give a year for the result, but he has no result. The game is stomping on the spot, and the events are so insignificant and come out every 4-6 months that it looks more like a circus.
 
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I just came here in this L&P section after 3 months and there's no change. I think I probably return after 30 months.
 
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cloudstrife said:
I think he's adding more Dylan POV scenes to make it more of a multi-protagonist game as there are people who like playing male POV games, my issue is that I don't particularly like Dylan, he's way too protective of Sophia and doesn't like other guys even looking at her and it just comes across as creepy. He says he's removing the side jobs to focus more on the main story, but then spends time messing around with Dylan POV content, that's not really focusing on the main story. I mean it's not like he needs more ways to drag out development, at his current cycle of an update every 4 months roughly it's going to be another 20 years till the end of the game. He's already removed all the Bennett content he was going to do and basically relegated him to one day in the distant future, it wouldn't surprise me if he also decides to axe the Andy/Cathy stuff which would really annoy me as I think that event could be a brilliant starting point for Sophia to realise that she gets turned on and likes the idea of doing things behind Liam's back. Because the way I'd do it is if you've been choosing more of the cheating wife options then when Sophia and Liam go to see Cathy and Andy they start drinking to ease the tension and Liam ends up drinking too much and passes out, but Sophia is drunk and horny so she decides to continue the night just with Andy and Cathy (or Cathy could also pass out if you don't want a threesome)
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One mistake that is unfortunately often made here is to believe that the story is only about Sophia. When in fact it is Sophia as "A wife and mother". Dylan, Ellie and Liam therefore play a prominent role alongside Sophia.

Another mistake that some people make here is to believe that a story has to be told from only one perspective. The fact that both Liam and Dylan had PoV events and could also make decisions doesn't contradict anything L&P said (on the contrary, if you take a look at the game description) and also fits the game, as this is the only way to tell the parts of the story that Sophia can't know about yet. I personally hope that Dylan and Ellie event path will result in events including also Sophia sexually, Dylan and Ellie (there was already a teaser for this in the update, with Dylan wanting to see lesbian sex between Sophia und Ellie). This would mean that the event would not be a side story but part of the main story.

Now to your third mistake. A whole path is planned in which Dylan brings his mother together with other guys on purpose. You already collect points for this (e.g. in the event with Sam, where Dylan can decide to just watch and not intervene). That's the exact opposite of what you're saying here.
 
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One mistake that is unfortunately often made here is to believe that the story is only about Sophia. When in fact it is Sophia as "A wife and mother". Dylan, Ellie and Liam therefore play a prominent role alongside Sophia.

Another mistake that some people make here is to believe that a story has to be told from only one perspective. The fact that both Liam and Dylan had PoV events and could also make decisions doesn't contradict anything L&P said (on the contrary, if you take a look at the game description) and also fits the game, as this is the only way to tell the parts of the story that Sophia can't know about yet. I personally hope that Dylan and Ellie event path will result in events including also Sophia sexually, Dylan and Ellie (there was already a teaser for this in the update, with Dylan wanting to see lesbian sex between Sophia und Ellie). This would mean that the event would not be a side story but part of the main story.

Now to your third mistake. A whole path is planned in which Dylan brings his mother together with other guys on purpose. You already collect points for this (e.g. in the event with Sam, where Dylan can decide to just watch and not intervene). That's the exact opposite of what you're saying here.
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Technically my comment about Dylan being possessive is accurate because even when he allows things to happen, like the photoshoot and the trampoline, he still sulks and feels angry about it. Sophia might be his mother but she's not his property. Dylan reminds me a lot of my brother and he's a total prick too
 
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cloudstrife said:
Technically my comment about Dylan being possessive is accurate because even when he allows things to happen, like the photoshoot and the trampoline, he still sulks and feels angry about it. Sophia might be his mother but she's not his property. Dylan reminds me a lot of my brother and he's a total prick too
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It may well be that this attitude has been conveyed so far (even if I think you are clearly exaggerating here), but that doesn't mean it will stay that way. A good part of what makes a story a good story is that characters change as a result of the events they are confronted with. As I said, there's a whole storyline planned in which Dylan deliberately brings his mother together with other guys. In a storyline like this, a Dylan who agrees with everything right from the start would be boring. It's better if Dylan is jealous at first, but later learns that sharing can have its advantages (such as a few good voyeur events), too.

Another thing, good characters in a story always have positive and negative sides. That's why I prefer a character like Dylan much more than Sam, for example, who is just perfect in everything.
 
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It may well be that this attitude has been conveyed so far (even if I think you are clearly exaggerating here), but that doesn't mean it will stay that way. A good part of what makes a story a good story is that characters change as a result of the events they are confronted with. As I said, there's a whole storyline planned in which Dylan deliberately brings his mother together with other guys. In a storyline like this, a Dylan who agrees with everything right from the start would be boring. It's better if Dylan is jealous at first, but later learns that sharing can have its advantages (such as a few good voyeur events), too.

Another thing, good characters in a story always have positive and negative sides. That's why I prefer a character like Dylan much more than Sam, for example, who is just perfect in everything.
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Yeah I guess Dylan's not a TOTAL prick, although he can act in a prickish way sometimes. But my brother definitely is a total prick lol
 
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