VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[XaGnard]

When I see ALL those AVNs scenes in public gyms Im 100% sure the author looks like this:

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Not a single guy who had ever put his feet in a public gym for more than 10 hours would ever do the ridiculous gropping all this guys do, and also, they only do those scenes because they have no clue how you flirt and date for real in gyms. She has to lurk around you and eventually break her frame forcing a casual conversation, you do not act like the creep that quits training and runs around gropping, that is VERY beta, not alpha gigachad. Just saying...

Guys, author is a confirmed fat weirdo, but definately not a gym chad, 10000% sure.

For the young guys, DONT DO THAT EVER! Even if you have a greek god body, DONT DO THAT! Im 43 and I've been in gyms for more than 20 years, I've NEVER seen that and I dont know a single girl who had ever suffered something like that. Casual but tap, yeah, but ridiculous ass gropping in the middle of the room, come on! you dont even do that kind of exercise in that section!

Guys, the club with a toddler, the gym gropping, the 40 yo women excited after a 16yo kids rock band "sound", etc... The author is a confirmed weirdo with no real life experience.

You do realize that AWAM is a porn game, right? In a porn game, the ultimate goal is to make things happen that don't make sense in real life.

Another thing, the very idea that someone here would use the games as a real-life guide is ridiculous. This is something that applies to all games here, not just AWAM.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Pure fucking insanity.

"My story is so amazing that I need 30 years to tell my dunbass porn story! It's not like those other games with hot, incestuous, MILF moms! Mine is special! Mine is high quality and will be remembered for millenia!"

Pure egomania.

The sad thing is that at the time it was released, at least as far as I knew at the time, it was pretty unique and special. The problem being that he succumbed to pressure, and made it like every male protag game out 7 years ago

Agree and it's on par with "teachers" going to work dressed liked whores when NO school would watch her walk in to work and let them teach that day, lol. They'd be turned around at the door and likely fired.

The problem (which comes from the same place, IMO) is that most devs are dogshit writers because they have porn-brain and zero life/sex experience.
So much so that if you tell them what XYZ is actually like they'll argue with you.
A scary amount of dudes truly think a pussy is beat and useless once a dick has been in it. Rather, someone else's dick. I've had dudes legitimately argue to me that "a non-virgin pussy is sloppy and loose" lmao.
Or the classic "it's been shaped by the other man's penis" line that they back up with an Indian medical journal from some back alley doctor that got his degree online for $25.

I don't expect those same type of dudes to know what a gym is like or the culture inside a gym. That groping shit wouldn't fly for a second unless it was a 24 hour gym with nobody in it at 4am.

I have the same issue with the side jobs. I can't speak for what it's like in other countries, but even for the nursing job, as someone who works in aged care, we're forbidden to touch a client's genitals unless we have express written permission to do so. Even for the side job with the old farts. That will only get you sacked. The 2nd side job would get you jailed.

Realistically speaking.

You do realize that AWAM is a porn game, right? In a porn game, the ultimate goal is to make things happen that don't make sense in real life.

Another thing, the very idea that someone here would use the games as a real-life guide is ridiculous. This is something that applies to all games here, not just AWAM.

That this is a porn game is obvious to anyone that's played it. The only problem is that what L&P promises, and what he delivers is chalk and cheese.

He promises an adult erotic visual novel, with a unique female protagonist, with "realism and class". What he is actually delivering is the porn game you describe (and many enjoy), but much the same as what was out there 7 years ago. I came to this game after being bitterly disappointed by other games at the time like Big Brother and Timestamps, only to find out that AWAM is turning out to be pretty much the same.

 

[armion82]

You do realize that AWAM is a porn game, right?

You should explain that to the dev.

 

[Alley_Cat]

You should explain that to the dev.

Well, I'm still a bit confused how any focus on Dylan represents "I've decided on a beautiful and hot female MC-MILF because there are just too many "male-MC games" at the moment! It's just become boring! And many hot events in the story are only playable as a (married) female MC!"

 

[rAmSiMaL]

You complain…

No % ???? No teaser ????

Two hours later…

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[sophpa]

It`s just me or looks like that this thread was bought by Elon Musk? Where`s freedom of speech? Why i receive notification about gif when i didn`t send gif lol

 

[Anna1990]

Why no texting in this game? Maybe like sophia x sam sharing sexy pics each other and some gf/bf type texts

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

Agree and it's on par with "teachers" going to work dressed liked whores when NO school would watch her walk in to work and let them teach that day, lol. They'd be turned around at the door and likely fired.

The problem (which comes from the same place, IMO) is that most devs are dogshit writers because they have porn-brain and zero life/sex experience.
So much so that if you tell them what XYZ is actually like they'll argue with you.
A scary amount of dudes truly think a pussy is beat and useless once a dick has been in it. Rather, someone else's dick. I've had dudes legitimately argue to me that "a non-virgin pussy is sloppy and loose" lmao.
Or the classic "it's been shaped by the other man's penis" line that they back up with an Indian medical journal from some back alley doctor that got his degree online for $25.

I don't expect those same type of dudes to know what a gym is like or the culture inside a gym. That groping shit wouldn't fly for a second unless it was a 24 hour gym with nobody in it at 4am.

Yes, but that's the whole point right? Classic "Copier guy" syndrome.
I mean, no one believes story here is actually plausible right? Not saying stuff like that does not happen in real life, because it does, but never as presented in AWAM.
What I appreciate the most are these little nuggets that allow to suspend your disbelieve.

Take Dylan/Sophia date for example. The way the dialogue was written is how you should be talking to a woman.
Not those stupid one liner openings that only work in movies or Youtube, but a witty, intelligent conversation that keeps her interested and on her toes interlaced with very very subtle sexual remarks. Keep it intriguing and don't do creepy shit.
I mean if you struggle or have little experience talking to a woman you can learn a lot from that scene. I am not exaggerating.

 

[tofhdns]

Yes, but that's the whole point right? Classic "Copier guy" syndrome.
I mean, no one believes story here is actually plausible right? Not saying stuff like that does not happen in real life, because it does, but never as presented in AWAM.
What I appreciate the most are these little nuggets that allow to suspend your disbelieve.

Take Dylan/Sophia date for example. The way the dialogue was written is how you should be talking to a woman.
Not those stupid one liner openings that only work in movies or Youtube, but a witty, intelligent conversation that keeps her interested and on her toes interlaced with very very subtle sexual remarks. Keep it intriguing and don't do creepy shit.
I mean if you struggle or have little experience talking to a woman you can learn a lot from that scene. I am not exaggerating.

I completely lost interest in the Dylan/Sophia bathroom scene, so I don't know what the conversation was about after that.

However, this is what I remember.

Dylan was angry that someone else was seeing Sophia's body at the beauty salon and was suspicious of Sophia for letting the situation go by.

But when Dylan returned to her house, he encouraged Sophia to show off her body to other people, saying that people would like Sophia's body and that Dylan was proud of her.

Sofia's drinking always led to incidents and she always regretted it, but that day Sofia drank and she regretted it again.

And Sofia hid the fact that her own husband and Dylan's dad, Liam, had taken the photo of her. why?

It started with the Dylan/Sophia bathroom scene that people pointed out the sloppiness, contradictions, errors, and repetition of the dialogue.

This guy sees nothing, for defend L&P.

All you can learn from the club scene is how to handle a whore.
Don't try to learn how to date through porn games.

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

I completely lost interest in the Dylan/Sophia bathroom scene, so I don't know what the conversation was about after that.

However, this is what I remember.

Dylan was angry that someone else was seeing Sophia's body at the beauty salon and was suspicious of Sophia for letting the situation go by.

But when Dylan returned to her house, he encouraged Sophia to show off her body to other people, saying that people would like Sophia's body and that Dylan was proud of her.

Sofia's drinking always led to incidents and she always regretted it, but that day Sofia drank and she regretted it again.

And Sofia hid the fact that her own husband and Dylan's dad, Liam, had taken the photo of her. why?

It started with the Dylan/Sophia bathroom scene that people pointed out the sloppiness, contradictions, errors, and repetition of the dialogue.

This guy sees nothing, for defend L&P.

All you can learn from the club scene is how to handle a whore.
Don't try to learn how to date through porn games.

Haha You clearly have a problem with me. That's OK, but did you even read and understand what I wrote? Because you touched on all the points I wrote are nonsense.
As per handling a whore - good luck

 

[tofhdns]

Haha You clearly have a problem with me. That's OK, but did you even read and understand what I wrote? Because you touched on all the points I wrote are nonsense.
As per handling a whore - good luck

You definitely have a problem.

Don't try to learn something through porn games or porn videos, experience it in real life.

I have tried to ignore you at the urging of others, but you are saying something very dangerous and wrong.

People like you cause trouble to women in real life.

Go on the right date with the right girl.

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

You definitely have a problem.

Don't try to learn something through porn games or porn videos, experience it in real life.

I have tried to ignore you at the urging of others, but you are saying something very dangerous and wrong.

People like you cause trouble to women in real life.

Go on the right date with the right girl.

Haha WTF? What are you talking about?
What have I wrote to lead you to this conclusion?

 

[tofhdns]

Haha WTF? What are you talking about?
What have I wrote to lead you to this conclusion?

If you don't know what the problem is, write down the lines of dialogue you remember from the game here.

I'll tell you right away how sloppy you are.

tick tick tick.....

 

[BillieKimochi]

This thread the last few days

 

[naughtynafz]

When I see ALL those AVNs scenes in public gyms Im 100% sure the author looks like this:

Spoiler: Incel

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Not a single guy who had ever put his feet in a public gym for more than 10 hours would ever do the ridiculous gropping all this guys do, and also, they only do those scenes because they have no clue how you flirt and date for real in gyms. She has to lurk around you and eventually break her frame forcing a casual conversation, you do not act like the creep that quits training and runs around gropping, that is VERY beta, not alpha gigachad. Just saying...

Guys, author is a confirmed fat weirdo, but definately not a gym chad, 10000% sure.

For the young guys, DONT DO THAT EVER! Even if you have a greek god body, DONT DO THAT! Im 43 and I've been in gyms for more than 20 years, I've NEVER seen that and I dont know a single girl who had ever suffered something like that. Casual but tap, yeah, but ridiculous ass gropping in the middle of the room, come on! you dont even do that kind of exercise in that section!

Guys, the club with a toddler, the gym gropping, the 40 yo women excited after a 16yo kids rock band "sound", etc... The author is a confirmed weirdo with no real life experience.

okay. everything is true. but for a adult vn, its necessary. otherwise there would be no sex or erotica or whatever. it will be just daily routine of a female protagonist.

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

If you don't know what the problem is, write down the lines of dialogue you remember from the game here.

I'll tell you right away how sloppy you are.

tick tick tick.....
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Oh you can't? So you have just made some bushtit up then. Gee, thanks.

You are like that other guy that kept insisting that stuff is slowing down and then he himself provided numerical prof that actually number of renders produced remained constant throughout years except one time drop.

Are you 10 or something?

 

[holy_cat]

The sad thing is that at the time it was released, at least as far as I knew at the time, it was pretty unique and special. The problem being that he succumbed to pressure, and made it like every male protag game out 7 years ago
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I wanted to make a similar point but you were quicker.

It seems to me that nobody expects a '1 to 1' realism in this game (and in any other porn or erotic game). But 'early AWAM' was pretty close to real life dilemmas - contrary to 98% of games here, that on average are as sophisticated as a hammer. And it made the game distinct. Past tense intended.

To me, 'early Sophia' was at least to some extent believable in her 'internal dialogues' and decisions. Today her behaviour fits the logic of a standard porn game but it's not the same. It's a pity, I would say.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

To let everybody know that I'll be staying off of here for few weeks I need to take a break plus in 2 days I'll be getting a phone call from my doctor in Birmingham AL I been having problems with my back and if I do get a major surgery then I won't be able to come back on here for a long time so I know I'll be missing out a lot y'all don't worry I'll be fine but this ain't no laughing matter I know there has been few people laugh about things I put on here but this one is very serious and personal I don't usually share my personal life on here but I have made friends with y'all so I didn't want to leave without y'all knowing anything so now I'm getting off I'll be back soon if I have strength and energy to come back.

To let everybody know that I'll be staying off of here for few weeks I need to take a break plus in 2 days I'll be getting a phone call from my doctor in Birmingham AL I been having problems with my back and if I do get a major surgery then I won't be able to come back on here for a long time so I know I'll be missing out a lot y'all don't worry I'll be fine but this ain't no laughing matter I know there has been few people laugh about things I put on here but this one is very serious and personal I don't usually share my personal life on here but I have made friends with y'all so I didn't want to leave without y'all knowing anything so now I'm getting off I'll be back soon if I have strength and energy to come back.

Take care brother

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

I wanted to make a similar point but you were quicker.

It seems to me that nobody expects a '1 to 1' realism in this game (and in any other porn or erotic game). But 'early AWAM' was pretty close to real life dilemmas - contrary to 98% of games here, that on average are as sophisticated as a hammer. And it made the game distinct. Past tense intended.

To me, 'early Sophia' was at least to some extent believable in her 'internal dialogues' and decisions. Today her behaviour fits the logic of a standard porn game but it's not the same. It's a pity, I would say.

That is a valid point, although eventually it had to change, as otherwise we wouldn't have an erotic VN or things would be moving even slower.

I think that to write a "realistic" VN you would need 100s of small step events that would escalate thing to the next step/ phase, followed by another 100s of micro steps escalating another step. Imagine what the length of that script would be like.

 

[palmtrees89]

You are like that other guy that kept insisting that stuff is slowing down and then he himself provided numerical prof that actually number of renders produced remained constant throughout years except one time drop.

Not again...

You yourself provided proof that things are going downhill, and not just a one-time drop in your split. I've been providing you with the yearly amount of renders from 2018 all the way through 2023, and every single year had less renders than the one prior, with the only exception being 2023 due to the last update that year (which was released on January 6th 2024).

Again, just for you!

2018: 2685 renders
2019: 2480 renders
2020: 2328 renders
2021: 1872 renders
2022: 1646 renders
2023: 1123 renders (+ ~760)

The only constant here is a constant downhill ride. So much for your "numerical proof".