OZtheW1ZARD

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This is the relative ratio you calculated.
"=((1646/1883)*100)-100"
And the result is 12.58%.

This is the decline rate I calculated.
"=(1646-1883)/1646*100"
And the result is 14.39%.
On a side note and this is not an attack.

Why did you decide to calculate decline rate for a pair of values? I understand doing this for all the years combined, but even then you are examining just the decline rate and not the actual decline value?

What I have done is to calculate by what % the following year changed in comparison to the previous one.
 

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Please someone help, in the Christian and Dylan scene, when Ellie comes down the stairs, goes back up and doesn't look at them, what should I have done in the past?
 

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On a side note and this is not an attack.

Why did you decide to calculate decline rate for a pair of values? I understand doing this for all the years combined, but even then you are examining just the decline rate and not the actual decline value?

What I have done is to calculate by what % the following year changed in comparison to the previous one.
Literally, it is to see the rate of decline by year.
(From the beginning of the debate, the main point was that “L&P’s workload is decreasing.”)

palmtrees89 calculated with the same formula before I published mine.
This means that this formula fits this situation.

This is the formula I used:
The value of "=(100-80)/100*100" is 20%.
I can present this and explain to people that it's a 20% decrease.

This is the formula you used:
The value of "=(100/80*100)-100" is 25%.
How would you explain this to people?
 
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Literally, it is to see the rate of decline by year.
(From the beginning of the debate, the main point was that “L&P’s workload is decreasing.”)

palmtrees89 calculated with the same formula before I published mine.
This means that this formula is universal.

This is the formula I used:
The value of "=(100-80)/100*100" is 20%.
I can present this and explain to people that it's a 20% decrease.

This is the formula you used.
The value of "=(100/80*100)-100" is 25%.
How would you explain this to people?
but applying it for just one year gives you very inaccurate value, plus it measures what is the rate of change and not the value of the rate itself. This is a bit like acceleration and speed in Physics.
 
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tofhdns

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but applying it for just one year gives you very inaccurate value, plus it measures what is the rate of change and not the value of the rate itself. This is a bit like acceleration and speed in Physics.
It decreased from 100 to 80, and the decrease is 20%.
Very simple.

If you calculate with your formula you get 25%.
Again, to claim your formula you need to be able to explain 25%.

If you fail to explain this, your formula is wrong.
 

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but applying it for just one year gives you very inaccurate value, plus it measures what is the rate of change and not the value of the rate itself. This is a bit like acceleration and speed in Physics.
Each of us can decide to support L&P or not, based on our experiences.

Many of us on this thread were supporters years ago and are no longer.

I can't speak for anyone else but my choice to leave was when L&P deleted posts of mine that he did not like and chose to ignore others.

His Patreon, his choice - but hardly conducive to building and maintaining a supportive community of Long time supporters.

So - my question for you, based on your analysis of the numbers presented (renders per PD, let's say)/how productive L&P has been over the last several years and your knowledge of AWAM.

What is your date estimate (I'm good with a year +/- 4 years - so not an exact guess by any means) when L&P will complete PD 30?

I'm not asking for rework estimates or the number of supposed DLC's that he talks about, just a simple - how long until L&P completes PD 30.

I've posted my own estimate here but rather than taint your analysis with my assessment - I'm curious what your estimate is.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

OZtheW1ZARD

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It decreased from 100 to 80, and the decrease is 20%.
Very simple.

If you calculate with your formula you get 25%.
Again, to claim your formula you need to be able to explain 25%.

If you fail to explain this, your formula is wrong.
No, you don't you get 80%, which then you have to subtract from 100 to get 20%

100/100 = 80/X,
8000 = 100X, which is the same as
80 = 1X,
X = 80,

100 - 80 = 20%


EDIT: Sorry guys, this is my last post on the matter.

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I obviously checked with you before deducing your formula, just in case you said this later.

But regardless of that

Your formula now:
(1643:100 = 1883:x)-100
If you calculate this, the 12.5% you wrote down does not come out.
(The reason I kept asking you for your formula was because 12.5% did not come out with the above calculation.)

Find out what the problem was. (I found it.)
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Mate, can you stop? This is a mathematical equation. It does work! 100% of the time works every time. I have just shown you above.
You can use it for more stuff than %.
 
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tofhdns

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No, you don't you get 80%, which then you have to subtract from 100 to get 20%

100/100 = 80/X,
8000 = 100X, which is the same as
80 = 1X,
X = 80,

100 - 80 = 20%


EDIT: Sorry guys, this is my last post on the matter.
I obviously checked with you before deducing your formula, just in case you said this later.

But regardless of that

Your formula now:
(1643:100 = 1883:x)-100
If you calculate this, the 12.5% you wrote down does not come out.
(The reason I kept asking you for your formula was because 12.5% did not come out with this calculation.)

Find out what the problem was. (I found it.)
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
 
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I've actually made a little oopsie when I added the numbers together. Added a missing update from 2019 (aswell as the percentages);

2018: 2685 renders
2019: 2775 renders - 3.35196% increase compared to 2018
2020: 2328 renders - 16.1081% decrease compared to 2019
2021: 1872 renders - 19.5876% decrease compared to 2020
2022: 1646 renders - 12.0726% decrease compared to 2021
2023: 1123 renders - 31.774% decrease compared to 2022

Or alternatively, if you wanna add v0.195 from January 6th 2024 to 2023;

2023(v2): 1887 renders - 14.6416% increase compared to 2022

Now you guys can continue ... :p
FRAUDO LP
 

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Please someone help, in the Christian and Dylan scene, when Ellie comes down the stairs, goes back up and doesn't look at them, what should I have done in the past?
 
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