the time is nigh. our knights in shining armor should be prepared.
That's totally crazyBefore the usual commotion holds the thread hostage, let's make a brief recap of what to expect.
This v0.185 is the first part of the evening event with Sophia and Dylan. The second part will be covered in the next release.
It is probably the first time we got so much information from L&P about a release.
As per his words, Part 1 is the build-up for Part 2 in some way, naturally. They merge into each other. But without spoiling much I can say both parts have something very hot to give, this is for sure. Part 1 I would say is additionally the more "artistic part" and more "story-heavy". And both events will mark the next step in their relationship (source).
As a benchmark in terms of "hotness", the evening events will be at least as hot as the Sam event if not even hotter and, overall he won't achieve anything less than Sam . Moreover, [part 1] it's pretty story heavy where you learn more about Sophia's/Dylan's past and expand Sophia's and Dylan's relationship further. And additionally the renders and characters look even better than before.
As for the "story-heavy", we know that Sophia will tell Dylan when she lost her virginity, that there will be flashbacks about her past but not about that. He announced 3 "in between specials", one of which has been already revealed to be the magazine gig.
With this big picture in mind, so far we know that the release consists of 416 renders, which will make Part 1 the 3rd event in terms of number of renders, just after the Yoga and last Sam's event.
View attachment 2582061
We also know that there will be 3 animations, 2 are rather short with around 6-10 seconds, and a long one with almost 30 seconds.
Other than these already big numbers, there have been 15 (!!!) teasers that came with a lot of context and explications for L&P standards.
Roughly speaking, we can divide the teasers into 3 main blocks.
Change of plan
As anticipated in the previous release, Sophia went to Claire because (we learned) she was supposed to spend a nice date night with Liam at some fancy restaurant. Obviously, that plan had to fail.
Unsurprisingly, the first two teasers explained that Liam has to cancel as his boss, Mr Harris is coming over to watch the football game and the romantic dinner is postponed to Sunday evening (PD15).
View attachment 2582064
Then Sophia meets Dylan who, in turn, explains his plans for the evening: according to the previous choices he is headed either to Christine's party (bonus storyline path)t OR to a basketball game (other route(s)). At this point, Sophia tells him about her changed plan and it is not clear if it is at this time he might have the choice to drop the basket game and ask to spend the evening together.
View attachment 2582067
It turns out that she will be spending the night with a relaxing bath, as we see her getting ready.
View attachment 2582070
Some questions arise here.
- The choice of a bikini to take a bath is rather odd, especially such a skimpy one. One possible explanation is that Dylan already asked (or was offered) to spend the evening together with a relaxing bath. That way it would make sense for her to wear a bikini.
- This brings us to the question of when they decide to spend the evening together. Is it at the very beginning when they meet (2nd teaser), more likely for the above reason, or it will happen later on e.g. when Dylan crosses again Sophia?
- Another question is more related to Liam. How is he gonna be portrayed wrt the failed evening plan? We don't know how much of an imposition was Mr Harris' self-invitation for the football game. For sure this mishap is going to hurt Sophia who was all excited about it and went through the change of hairstyle. It will be interesting what impact it has on the story if it is another device to cast a bad light on Liam and for Sophia to feel even more neglected. One can only hope, for the sake of the story, that it won't turn out the trite trope of the neglected wife, which somehow gives Sophia an "excuse" to go further with her affairs. And this leads directly to the next block of teasers.
Hello, "Mr Boss"
The text accompanying the 4th teaser is quite clear: While Sophia is getting ready for her relaxing bath, the doorbell rings. Mr. Harris is here. Liam asked Sophia to say hi to his boss. But not in which way. Depending on what Sophia's corruption status is, she can either say hi by changing into an ordinary robe or stay like this and teach her husband a little lesson by teasing his boss a little bit in front of him...
View attachment 2582073
Apparently, as a little "revenge" for the planned evening disaster, Sophia could have the option to tease the boss when greeting him downstairs: Sophia (filthy) says hi to Liam's boss, Mr Harris, as he asked her to...:
View attachment 2582075
According to the previous choice, Sophia will greet Mr Harris in her robe giving him a little show.
Obviously until the release of the 5th teaser the speculation about that "teasing" ran wild in the forum with more or less plausible options . There were indeed a lot of discussions because, between the 3rd and the 4th teaser, she seemed to have removed the top. This suggests she might greet the boss without the top under her robe, thus opening the possibility of an unintended wardrobe malfunction, transforming the tease into something spicier.
Now it seems from the 5th teaser that she will be just presenting herself in a bikini with the robe slightly opened. On the other hand, it has been suggested that for once L&P could have fooled us with a teaser that will be a little different than the final release, were things may be a little spicier. We will see...
To come back to the previous question, it will be interesting to measure what Liam's reaction will be and how flirty Sophia will be, and the potential impact that this could have on the story. It's worth remembering that Mr Harris has already caught Sophia (depending on the route and the choices) in Liam's office the day before when she visited him and had sex. In that case, the walkthrough mentioned that "Whereby it could be important later if Liam's boss Mr Harris caught her in her filthy dress or not!". It's not clear if this choice to tease Mr Harris depends also on that or if it just adds to the previous to unlock a future event.
Finally, it's not clear, how the sub-events will be interconnected, e.g. whether the teasing will only happen if she accepted to have a bath with Dylan or it will be independent. Also, L&P never mentioned the other Dylan's path for the evening, studying with Emma. Here is a possible flowchart for how the event **might** play out,
View attachment 2582076
you can follow the discussions here to see all the possibilities
The bath
Once done with the Boss, Sophia and Dylan will enjoy a relaxing bath together, as shown by the next 3 teasers
Ready to go: Sophia picks Dylan up at his room for their little private wellness time together.
View attachment 2582081
Setting everything up for some quality time together
View attachment 2582084
Taking care of each other
View attachment 2582091
Nothing particular in these, if not the "romantic" setting full of candles (someone went as far as suggesting some erotic game with the wax later on) and the big horse brush Sophia is using
. Also, in the teaser we have the beefed version of Dylan, the one from Decisions of Life (DoL) for the obvious reasons related to Patreon ToS. In the game, there will be the "usual" version, although there are users interested in a mod for the game to get the beefed version also in the release...
A more interesting series of teasers came just after when we get to know a secret from Sophia's past:
A surprising discovery (little "in-between special") Dylan made a surprising discovery about Sophia's past.
View attachment 2582093
It turned out that Sophia had a past as a model in a men's magazine
Youthful Sins (What Dylan found out about Sophia)
Dylan found in the deepest abyss of the internet some old magazine that Sophia modelled for when she was just getting into college when she was 19. It's a relatively unknown magazine, so Sophia has managed to keep this little youthful sin secret. Until now. The photoshoot includes a total of 10 hot photos with her.
The cover
View attachment 2582095
and the 4 shots that has been released as teasers:
View attachment 2582100 View attachment 2582101 View attachment 2582103 View attachment 2582108
The magazine gig
That obviously sparked a lot of questions and discussions.
- This is something new from Sophia's past that has never been mentioned in the story so far, even though there were events in which the topic could have come up. For example during the fashion show, in her thought she revealed that she doesn't know how to pose
and, before in day 2 during the role-playing with Liam it is said thatPython:s "{color=#f2ff66}(I actually don't even know what to do. I mean, of course, I've seen some fashion shows and photo shoots with my husband, but this is different!)"
We will see how this is introduced in the story but it feels a little bit like a retcon. Of course, it is important to avoid spoiling too many future events but maybe there could have been a way to maintain coherence.Python:"{color=#ffffff}She had never really modeled before but she had seen some fashion shows on TV and remembered some poses from there. But she remained a little reserved at first."
- This also might cast a different light on Sophia's younger years. We knew that Patricia was the wildest between the two and that Sophia might have had her share of fun before getting pregnant. During Sam's events, she referred to her youth as "rebellious teenage years". The magazine gig might open a window into her past that might be different than we thought reading the story so far.
L&P also explained that she was young and she needed the money. The question is what for? She was getting into college and she might have needed the money like any student or there was something more? (also considering that she was coming from a wealthy family). Was it part of some sort of "rebellion" against her parents?
- Another possible theory is that she might have done it, got cold feet at the last minute before the publication and then it got published anyway . This complicates a bit the story with possible legal battles or attempts to just hide it since it was a very unknown magazine. L&P also said that the magazine gig It's rather something Sophia could be proud of. Dylan and Sophia will have a nice conversation about that.
It has pointed out, though, that differently from Liam's works in which models are used to sell clothes, this seems more a man's magazine selling sex, which is a bit different and a bit harder to be proud of. We'll see the remaining 6 shots if are more daring or they will be on the same lines as the 4 already revealed.
- Curiously, the magazine cover is a collage of different existing Maxim covers, e.g.
View attachment 2582112
here you can find the whole bunch of them.
- The most interesting point is how and when Dylan actually discovers the magazine cover. Nothing more is said in the text of the teaser. There could be at least 2 possibilities
- Sophia tells Dylanabout the bikini gig for some reason during their conversation and then either
- She knew that some online evidences were still there and tip him off to go search for it. So the teaser is about Dylan going online (maybe he went to pick up his phone) and finding the pictures.
- She did not know about the online photos and Dylan goes online on his phone to search and finds it.
- Dylan found the images before this event by himself and he is now revealing them, thus opening a lot of questions about the whole story up to now, **potentially** up to a possible "Twist 2.0" in which Dylan has known about it for quite some time and all the events so far were driven by his tentative to bring back that young Sophia spirit (which was kind of the motivation behind of the removed twist).
- As said before Sophia will proudly tell him about the gig, but it is to see, depending on the various cases, if she would like to keep that information well hidden as it has been so far. In this case, Dylan could use his "hacker" skills to save the day and try to remove it from the internet. Thus getting Sophia's gratitude and probably some... reward.
- As a frivolous curiosity, at the end of the fashion show event Dylan made a fake Playboy cover out of Sophia's shot () View attachment 2582119 View attachment 2582120
Is that a hint?
How it will play out from here
- The timeline: Sophia is almost 20 when she does the gig, and she will get pregnant of Ellie by the time she is in her late 20 or early 21. It's not clear if she already met Liam when she did the gig, in any case not even Liam knows about it. It's difficult to place all events as there has always been a little confusion with the ages of Ellie and Dylan, hopefully, when Sophia will tell the story everything will be more clear.
- As a side note about the timeline, it's worth noting that the whole story is being shifted by about 5 years to make it more up-to-date. Initially, it was taking place in 2017, now from the remastered version we know that it is now set in 2022. But the cover is dated July 2002, when Sophia was 19/20. Which will make her more than 38 in 2022. So, again, let's wait and see to disentangle this complicated timeline.
In the last teaser, enjoying some quality time together
View attachment 2582110
we see the two in a more intimate and relaxed position.
It's not clear what will actually happen between the two, considering that there will be probably a lot of text to tell about the magazine year and possibly other episodes of Sophia's past. Since there are 3 animations some touching and groping can be expected. One cannot exclude that one of the animations could be from the flashbacks. Here you have a suggestion for one of the animations that may very well fit the last teaser
Also it is not clear whether the whole event only takes place in the bathtub or there is a change of location at some point. For example, it could be Dylan's room if he will try to delete the pictures and/or e.g. if there will be a remake of some of the shots from the magazine for the old time sake.
More importantly, this event is clearly crucial for the Sophia/Dylan relationship, it could be a turning point. During the run in the park for the first time, Sophia started to see Dylan not as just his son but as a young man. Will this event build on that trying to put the two even closer to overcoming the mon/son relationship? Will it instead go on with some sort of sex-ed again, e.g. teaching how to kiss? It's difficult to image how L&P could move the story between the two forward without falling into the trap of "flipping the switch" or relying on some trite tropes.
Another interesting point is Sophia's attitude. We saw in Sam's episode that for the first time she took some initiative and she was a continuous tease. Obviously that cannot be the case with Dylan yet because he's starting from a very different position. If we want to compare with Sam (providing a comparison can be made given the different nature of the relationship), he is starting, roughly speaking, more or less from the Sam's concert level and it there is a very short time-frame to get to the "same level" so-to-speak as Sam's in these two events. We can expect as usual some conflicts in her thoughts before allowing things going farther. Probably, to have her more "active" we will have to wait for the next event. And, yet, it will be interesting how this mon/son relationship is managed and overcome in the story.
Finally, we'll see if, as in Sam's event, there will be a cliffhanger that will be continued in the second part, and above all, if there will be the usual unfailing interruption, a true trademark of all awam scenes!
How to get the event.
The event **should be** available only on the Dylan's route but not on the Boarding School route as that should be preventing any further progress between Dylan and Sophia.
If you don't have the saves and you still want to play it normally with all the options, you might need to set some variables in order to get the event. You can set the variable values with Renpy console, theYou must be registered to see the links, or the Universal Renpy Mod.
These are a set of variables that **might** be needed to play the event, other variable might be needed for specific dialogues.
Variable Value Meaning filthy > good_wife
e.g. set filthy to 1000, it does not matter as long as the condition is met This is usually needed to further advance with the more daring choices. dylan
58 That should be the max points that Dylan can have after the run in the park. For that a threshold of 40 was necessary to trigger the event. You can cheat and put 1000 just to be sure. day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_1
day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_2
True
These two are the outcome of their last event in the park. day19_Mr_Harris_saw_Sophia_in_her_filthy_dress
True
Probably there will be dialogues based on this. Probably not necessary for the Sophia's choice of teasing Mr Harris because after all the office was in the GW route and optional. day20_Christine_invites_Dylan_to_her_party
False
Just to be sure day20_Dylan_kissed_Marie_in_laundromat
False
If Dylan/Marie prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path Emma_and_Dylan_couple
False
If Dylan/Emma prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path
I just wanted to give people something to read to kill time while waiting for the hero. Something like those magazines in the waiting roomsMan, you had it all prepared![]()
What? the speculations? It's not fair, you know everything already!That's totally crazy![]()
I'm doubtful that dicks are useful in this update.Waiting for an update for 5 minutes and full eggs of sperm ))) And cry whyyyyyy whyyyyyyy
why so few
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Exactly man lolI cant wait for Dylan and Sophia to get into the tub and nothing to happen
Lmao some will see to be continued after a few seconds if they arent on the dylan path.Y'all excited for the five minutes gameplay and to see the "to be continued "
We need a Super Mouse.Not a hero, a RAT!![]()
In bed with woman, my personnal reccord is 2 minutes ! So with 5 min i can almost fap 3 times !Y'all excited for the five minutes gameplay and to see the "to be continued "
from this description part 1 will be mostly talkingBefore the usual commotion holds the thread hostage, let's make a brief recap of what to expect.
This v0.185 is the first part of the evening event with Sophia and Dylan. The second part will be covered in the next release.
It is probably the first time we got so much information from L&P about a release.
As per his words, Part 1 is the build-up for Part 2 in some way, naturally. They merge into each other. But without spoiling much I can say both parts have something very hot to give, this is for sure. Part 1 I would say is additionally the more "artistic part" and more "story-heavy". And both events will mark the next step in their relationship (source).
As a benchmark in terms of "hotness", the evening events will be at least as hot as the Sam event if not even hotter and, overall he won't achieve anything less than Sam . Moreover, [part 1] it's pretty story heavy where you learn more about Sophia's/Dylan's past and expand Sophia's and Dylan's relationship further. And additionally the renders and characters look even better than before.
As for the "story-heavy", we know that Sophia will tell Dylan when she lost her virginity, that there will be flashbacks about her past but not about that. He announced 3 "in between specials", one of which has been already revealed to be the magazine gig.
With this big picture in mind, so far we know that the release consists of 416 renders, which will make Part 1 the 3rd event in terms of number of renders, just after the Yoga and last Sam's event.
View attachment 2582061
We also know that there will be 3 animations, 2 are rather short with around 6-10 seconds, and a long one with almost 30 seconds.
Other than these already big numbers, there have been 15 (!!!) teasers that came with a lot of context and explications for L&P standards.
Roughly speaking, we can divide the teasers into 3 main blocks.
Change of plan
As anticipated in the previous release, Sophia went to Claire because (we learned) she was supposed to spend a nice date night with Liam at some fancy restaurant. Obviously, that plan had to fail.
Unsurprisingly, the first two teasers explained that Liam has to cancel as his boss, Mr Harris is coming over to watch the football game and the romantic dinner is postponed to Sunday evening (PD15).
View attachment 2582064
Then Sophia meets Dylan who, in turn, explains his plans for the evening: according to the previous choices he is headed either to Christine's party (bonus storyline path)t OR to a basketball game (other route(s)). At this point, Sophia tells him about her changed plan and it is not clear if it is at this time he might have the choice to drop the basket game and ask to spend the evening together.
View attachment 2582067
It turns out that she will be spending the night with a relaxing bath, as we see her getting ready.
View attachment 2582070
Some questions arise here.
- The choice of a bikini to take a bath is rather odd, especially such a skimpy one. One possible explanation is that Dylan already asked (or was offered) to spend the evening together with a relaxing bath. That way it would make sense for her to wear a bikini.
- This brings us to the question of when they decide to spend the evening together. Is it at the very beginning when they meet (2nd teaser), more likely for the above reason, or it will happen later on e.g. when Dylan crosses again Sophia?
- Another question is more related to Liam. How is he gonna be portrayed wrt the failed evening plan? We don't know how much of an imposition was Mr Harris' self-invitation for the football game. For sure this mishap is going to hurt Sophia who was all excited about it and went through the change of hairstyle. It will be interesting what impact it has on the story if it is another device to cast a bad light on Liam and for Sophia to feel even more neglected. One can only hope, for the sake of the story, that it won't turn out the trite trope of the neglected wife, which somehow gives Sophia an "excuse" to go further with her affairs. And this leads directly to the next block of teasers.
Hello, "Mr Boss"
The text accompanying the 4th teaser is quite clear: While Sophia is getting ready for her relaxing bath, the doorbell rings. Mr. Harris is here. Liam asked Sophia to say hi to his boss. But not in which way. Depending on what Sophia's corruption status is, she can either say hi by changing into an ordinary robe or stay like this and teach her husband a little lesson by teasing his boss a little bit in front of him...
View attachment 2582073
Apparently, as a little "revenge" for the planned evening disaster, Sophia could have the option to tease the boss when greeting him downstairs: Sophia (filthy) says hi to Liam's boss, Mr Harris, as he asked her to...:
View attachment 2582075
According to the previous choice, Sophia will greet Mr Harris in her robe giving him a little show.
Obviously until the release of the 5th teaser the speculation about that "teasing" ran wild in the forum with more or less plausible options . There were indeed a lot of discussions because, between the 3rd and the 4th teaser, she seemed to have removed the top. This suggests she might greet the boss without the top under her robe, thus opening the possibility of an unintended wardrobe malfunction, transforming the tease into something spicier.
Now it seems from the 5th teaser that she will be just presenting herself in a bikini with the robe slightly opened. On the other hand, it has been suggested that for once L&P could have fooled us with a teaser that will be a little different than the final release, were things may be a little spicier. We will see...
To come back to the previous question, it will be interesting to measure what Liam's reaction will be and how flirty Sophia will be, and the potential impact that this could have on the story. It's worth remembering that Mr Harris has already caught Sophia (depending on the route and the choices) in Liam's office the day before when she visited him and had sex. In that case, the walkthrough mentioned that "Whereby it could be important later if Liam's boss Mr Harris caught her in her filthy dress or not!". It's not clear if this choice to tease Mr Harris depends also on that or if it just adds to the previous to unlock a future event.
Finally, it's not clear, how the sub-events will be interconnected, e.g. whether the teasing will only happen if she accepted to have a bath with Dylan or it will be independent. Also, L&P never mentioned the other Dylan's path for the evening, studying with Emma. Here is a possible flowchart for how the event **might** play out,
View attachment 2582076
you can follow the discussions here to see all the possibilities
The bath
Once done with the Boss, Sophia and Dylan will enjoy a relaxing bath together, as shown by the next 3 teasers
Ready to go: Sophia picks Dylan up at his room for their little private wellness time together.
View attachment 2582081
Setting everything up for some quality time together
View attachment 2582084
Taking care of each other
View attachment 2582091
Nothing particular in these, if not the "romantic" setting full of candles (someone went as far as suggesting some erotic game with the wax later on) and the big horse brush Sophia is using
. Also, in the teaser we have the beefed version of Dylan, the one from Decisions of Life (DoL) for the obvious reasons related to Patreon ToS. In the game, there will be the "usual" version, although there are users interested in a mod for the game to get the beefed version also in the release...
A more interesting series of teasers came just after when we get to know a secret from Sophia's past:
A surprising discovery (little "in-between special") Dylan made a surprising discovery about Sophia's past.
View attachment 2582093
It turned out that Sophia had a past as a model in a men's magazine
Youthful Sins (What Dylan found out about Sophia)
Dylan found in the deepest abyss of the internet some old magazine that Sophia modelled for when she was just getting into college when she was 19. It's a relatively unknown magazine, so Sophia has managed to keep this little youthful sin secret. Until now. The photoshoot includes a total of 10 hot photos with her.
The cover
View attachment 2582095
and the 4 shots that has been released as teasers:
View attachment 2582100 View attachment 2582101 View attachment 2582103 View attachment 2582108
The magazine gig
That obviously sparked a lot of questions and discussions.
- This is something new from Sophia's past that has never been mentioned in the story so far, even though there were events in which the topic could have come up. For example during the fashion show, in her thought she revealed that she doesn't know how to pose
and, before in day 2 during the role-playing with Liam it is said thatPython:s "{color=#f2ff66}(I actually don't even know what to do. I mean, of course, I've seen some fashion shows and photo shoots with my husband, but this is different!)"
We will see how this is introduced in the story but it feels a little bit like a retcon. Of course, it is important to avoid spoiling too many future events but maybe there could have been a way to maintain coherence.Python:"{color=#ffffff}She had never really modeled before but she had seen some fashion shows on TV and remembered some poses from there. But she remained a little reserved at first."
- This also might cast a different light on Sophia's younger years. We knew that Patricia was the wildest between the two and that Sophia might have had her share of fun before getting pregnant. During Sam's events, she referred to her youth as "rebellious teenage years". The magazine gig might open a window into her past that might be different than we thought reading the story so far.
L&P also explained that she was young and she needed the money. The question is what for? She was getting into college and she might have needed the money like any student or there was something more? (also considering that she was coming from a wealthy family). Was it part of some sort of "rebellion" against her parents?
- Another possible theory is that she might have done it, got cold feet at the last minute before the publication and then it got published anyway . This complicates a bit the story with possible legal battles or attempts to just hide it since it was a very unknown magazine. L&P also said that the magazine gig It's rather something Sophia could be proud of. Dylan and Sophia will have a nice conversation about that.
It has pointed out, though, that differently from Liam's works in which models are used to sell clothes, this seems more a man's magazine selling sex, which is a bit different and a bit harder to be proud of. We'll see the remaining 6 shots if are more daring or they will be on the same lines as the 4 already revealed.
- Curiously, the magazine cover is a collage of different existing Maxim covers, e.g.
View attachment 2582112
here you can find the whole bunch of them.
- The most interesting point is how and when Dylan actually discovers the magazine cover. Nothing more is said in the text of the teaser. There could be at least 2 possibilities
- Sophia tells Dylanabout the bikini gig for some reason during their conversation and then either
- She knew that some online evidences were still there and tip him off to go search for it. So the teaser is about Dylan going online (maybe he went to pick up his phone) and finding the pictures.
- She did not know about the online photos and Dylan goes online on his phone to search and finds it.
- Dylan found the images before this event by himself and he is now revealing them, thus opening a lot of questions about the whole story up to now, **potentially** up to a possible "Twist 2.0" in which Dylan has known about it for quite some time and all the events so far were driven by his tentative to bring back that young Sophia spirit (which was kind of the motivation behind of the removed twist).
- As said before Sophia will proudly tell him about the gig, but it is to see, depending on the various cases, if she would like to keep that information well hidden as it has been so far. In this case, Dylan could use his "hacker" skills to save the day and try to remove it from the internet. Thus getting Sophia's gratitude and probably some... reward.
- As a frivolous curiosity, at the end of the fashion show event Dylan made a fake Playboy cover out of Sophia's shot () View attachment 2582119 View attachment 2582120
Is that a hint?
How it will play out from here
- The timeline: Sophia is almost 20 when she does the gig, and she will get pregnant of Ellie by the time she is in her late 20 or early 21. It's not clear if she already met Liam when she did the gig, in any case not even Liam knows about it. It's difficult to place all events as there has always been a little confusion with the ages of Ellie and Dylan, hopefully, when Sophia will tell the story everything will be more clear.
- As a side note about the timeline, it's worth noting that the whole story is being shifted by about 5 years to make it more up-to-date. Initially, it was taking place in 2017, now from the remastered version we know that it is now set in 2022. But the cover is dated July 2002, when Sophia was 19/20. Which will make her more than 38 in 2022. So, again, let's wait and see to disentangle this complicated timeline.
In the last teaser, enjoying some quality time together
View attachment 2582110
we see the two in a more intimate and relaxed position.
It's not clear what will actually happen between the two, considering that there will be probably a lot of text to tell about the magazine year and possibly other episodes of Sophia's past. Since there are 3 animations some touching and groping can be expected. One cannot exclude that one of the animations could be from the flashbacks. Here you have a suggestion for one of the animations that may very well fit the last teaser
Also it is not clear whether the whole event only takes place in the bathtub or there is a change of location at some point. For example, it could be Dylan's room if he will try to delete the pictures and/or e.g. if there will be a remake of some of the shots from the magazine for the old time sake.
More importantly, this event is clearly crucial for the Sophia/Dylan relationship, it could be a turning point. During the run in the park for the first time, Sophia started to see Dylan not as just his son but as a young man. Will this event build on that trying to put the two even closer to overcoming the mon/son relationship? Will it instead go on with some sort of sex-ed again, e.g. teaching how to kiss? It's difficult to image how L&P could move the story between the two forward without falling into the trap of "flipping the switch" or relying on some trite tropes.
Another interesting point is Sophia's attitude. We saw in Sam's episode that for the first time she took some initiative and she was a continuous tease. Obviously that cannot be the case with Dylan yet because he's starting from a very different position. If we want to compare with Sam (providing a comparison can be made given the different nature of the relationship), he is starting, roughly speaking, more or less from the Sam's concert level and it there is a very short time-frame to get to the "same level" so-to-speak as Sam's in these two events. We can expect as usual some conflicts in her thoughts before allowing things going farther. Probably, to have her more "active" we will have to wait for the next event. And, yet, it will be interesting how this mon/son relationship is managed and overcome in the story.
Finally, we'll see if, as in Sam's event, there will be a cliffhanger that will be continued in the second part, and above all, if there will be the usual unfailing interruption, a true trademark of all awam scenes!
How to get the event.
The event **should be** available only on the Dylan's route but not on the Boarding School route as that should be preventing any further progress between Dylan and Sophia.
If you don't have the saves and you still want to play it normally with all the options, you might need to set some variables in order to get the event. You can set the variable values with Renpy console, theYou must be registered to see the links, or the Universal Renpy Mod.
These are a set of variables that **might** be needed to play the event, other variable might be needed for specific dialogues.
Variable Value Meaning filthy > good_wife
e.g. set filthy to 1000, it does not matter as long as the condition is met This is usually needed to further advance with the more daring choices. dylan
58 That should be the max points that Dylan can have after the run in the park. For that a threshold of 40 was necessary to trigger the event. You can cheat and put 1000 just to be sure. day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_1
day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_2
True
These two are the outcome of their last event in the park. day19_Mr_Harris_saw_Sophia_in_her_filthy_dress
True
Probably there will be dialogues based on this. Probably not necessary for the Sophia's choice of teasing Mr Harris because after all the office was in the GW route and optional. day20_Christine_invites_Dylan_to_her_party
False
Just to be sure day20_Dylan_kissed_Marie_in_laundromat
False
If Dylan/Marie prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path Emma_and_Dylan_couple
False
If Dylan/Emma prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path
i give you a like for the super long post!!!Before the usual commotion holds the thread hostage, let's make a brief recap of what to expect.
This v0.185 is the first part of the evening event with Sophia and Dylan. The second part will be covered in the next release.
It is probably the first time we got so much information from L&P about a release.
As per his words, Part 1 is the build-up for Part 2 in some way, naturally. They merge into each other. But without spoiling much I can say both parts have something very hot to give, this is for sure. Part 1 I would say is additionally the more "artistic part" and more "story-heavy". And both events will mark the next step in their relationship (source).
As a benchmark in terms of "hotness", the evening events will be at least as hot as the Sam event if not even hotter and, overall he won't achieve anything less than Sam . Moreover, [part 1] it's pretty story heavy where you learn more about Sophia's/Dylan's past and expand Sophia's and Dylan's relationship further. And additionally the renders and characters look even better than before.
As for the "story-heavy", we know that Sophia will tell Dylan when she lost her virginity, that there will be flashbacks about her past but not about that. He announced 3 "in between specials", one of which has been already revealed to be the magazine gig.
With this big picture in mind, so far we know that the release consists of 416 renders, which will make Part 1 the 3rd event in terms of number of renders, just after the Yoga and last Sam's event.
View attachment 2582061
We also know that there will be 3 animations, 2 are rather short with around 6-10 seconds, and a long one with almost 30 seconds.
Other than these already big numbers, there have been 15 (!!!) teasers that came with a lot of context and explications for L&P standards.
Roughly speaking, we can divide the teasers into 3 main blocks.
Change of plan
As anticipated in the previous release, Sophia went to Claire because (we learned) she was supposed to spend a nice date night with Liam at some fancy restaurant. Obviously, that plan had to fail.
Unsurprisingly, the first two teasers explained that Liam has to cancel as his boss, Mr Harris is coming over to watch the football game and the romantic dinner is postponed to Sunday evening (PD15).
View attachment 2582064
Then Sophia meets Dylan who, in turn, explains his plans for the evening: according to the previous choices he is headed either to Christine's party (bonus storyline path)t OR to a basketball game (other route(s)). At this point, Sophia tells him about her changed plan and it is not clear if it is at this time he might have the choice to drop the basket game and ask to spend the evening together.
View attachment 2582067
It turns out that she will be spending the night with a relaxing bath, as we see her getting ready.
View attachment 2582070
Some questions arise here.
- The choice of a bikini to take a bath is rather odd, especially such a skimpy one. One possible explanation is that Dylan already asked (or was offered) to spend the evening together with a relaxing bath. That way it would make sense for her to wear a bikini.
- This brings us to the question of when they decide to spend the evening together. Is it at the very beginning when they meet (2nd teaser), more likely for the above reason, or it will happen later on e.g. when Dylan crosses again Sophia?
- Another question is more related to Liam. How is he gonna be portrayed wrt the failed evening plan? We don't know how much of an imposition was Mr Harris' self-invitation for the football game. For sure this mishap is going to hurt Sophia who was all excited about it and went through the change of hairstyle. It will be interesting what impact it has on the story if it is another device to cast a bad light on Liam and for Sophia to feel even more neglected. One can only hope, for the sake of the story, that it won't turn out the trite trope of the neglected wife, which somehow gives Sophia an "excuse" to go further with her affairs. And this leads directly to the next block of teasers.
Hello, "Mr Boss"
The text accompanying the 4th teaser is quite clear: While Sophia is getting ready for her relaxing bath, the doorbell rings. Mr. Harris is here. Liam asked Sophia to say hi to his boss. But not in which way. Depending on what Sophia's corruption status is, she can either say hi by changing into an ordinary robe or stay like this and teach her husband a little lesson by teasing his boss a little bit in front of him...
View attachment 2582073
Apparently, as a little "revenge" for the planned evening disaster, Sophia could have the option to tease the boss when greeting him downstairs: Sophia (filthy) says hi to Liam's boss, Mr Harris, as he asked her to...:
View attachment 2582075
According to the previous choice, Sophia will greet Mr Harris in her robe giving him a little show.
Obviously until the release of the 5th teaser the speculation about that "teasing" ran wild in the forum with more or less plausible options . There were indeed a lot of discussions because, between the 3rd and the 4th teaser, she seemed to have removed the top. This suggests she might greet the boss without the top under her robe, thus opening the possibility of an unintended wardrobe malfunction, transforming the tease into something spicier.
Now it seems from the 5th teaser that she will be just presenting herself in a bikini with the robe slightly opened. On the other hand, it has been suggested that for once L&P could have fooled us with a teaser that will be a little different than the final release, were things may be a little spicier. We will see...
To come back to the previous question, it will be interesting to measure what Liam's reaction will be and how flirty Sophia will be, and the potential impact that this could have on the story. It's worth remembering that Mr Harris has already caught Sophia (depending on the route and the choices) in Liam's office the day before when she visited him and had sex. In that case, the walkthrough mentioned that "Whereby it could be important later if Liam's boss Mr Harris caught her in her filthy dress or not!". It's not clear if this choice to tease Mr Harris depends also on that or if it just adds to the previous to unlock a future event.
Finally, it's not clear, how the sub-events will be interconnected, e.g. whether the teasing will only happen if she accepted to have a bath with Dylan or it will be independent. Also, L&P never mentioned the other Dylan's path for the evening, studying with Emma. Here is a possible flowchart for how the event **might** play out,
View attachment 2582076
you can follow the discussions here to see all the possibilities
The bath
Once done with the Boss, Sophia and Dylan will enjoy a relaxing bath together, as shown by the next 3 teasers
Ready to go: Sophia picks Dylan up at his room for their little private wellness time together.
View attachment 2582081
Setting everything up for some quality time together
View attachment 2582084
Taking care of each other
View attachment 2582091
Nothing particular in these, if not the "romantic" setting full of candles (someone went as far as suggesting some erotic game with the wax later on) and the big horse brush Sophia is using
. Also, in the teaser we have the beefed version of Dylan, the one from Decisions of Life (DoL) for the obvious reasons related to Patreon ToS. In the game, there will be the "usual" version, although there are users interested in a mod for the game to get the beefed version also in the release...
A more interesting series of teasers came just after when we get to know a secret from Sophia's past:
A surprising discovery (little "in-between special") Dylan made a surprising discovery about Sophia's past.
View attachment 2582093
It turned out that Sophia had a past as a model in a men's magazine
Youthful Sins (What Dylan found out about Sophia)
Dylan found in the deepest abyss of the internet some old magazine that Sophia modelled for when she was just getting into college when she was 19. It's a relatively unknown magazine, so Sophia has managed to keep this little youthful sin secret. Until now. The photoshoot includes a total of 10 hot photos with her.
The cover
View attachment 2582095
and the 4 shots that has been released as teasers:
View attachment 2582100 View attachment 2582101 View attachment 2582103 View attachment 2582108
The magazine gig
That obviously sparked a lot of questions and discussions.
- This is something new from Sophia's past that has never been mentioned in the story so far, even though there were events in which the topic could have come up. For example during the fashion show, in her thought she revealed that she doesn't know how to pose
and, before in day 2 during the role-playing with Liam it is said thatPython:s "{color=#f2ff66}(I actually don't even know what to do. I mean, of course, I've seen some fashion shows and photo shoots with my husband, but this is different!)"
We will see how this is introduced in the story but it feels a little bit like a retcon. Of course, it is important to avoid spoiling too many future events but maybe there could have been a way to maintain coherence.Python:"{color=#ffffff}She had never really modeled before but she had seen some fashion shows on TV and remembered some poses from there. But she remained a little reserved at first."
- This also might cast a different light on Sophia's younger years. We knew that Patricia was the wildest between the two and that Sophia might have had her share of fun before getting pregnant. During Sam's events, she referred to her youth as "rebellious teenage years". The magazine gig might open a window into her past that might be different than we thought reading the story so far.
L&P also explained that she was young and she needed the money. The question is what for? She was getting into college and she might have needed the money like any student or there was something more? (also considering that she was coming from a wealthy family). Was it part of some sort of "rebellion" against her parents?
- Another possible theory is that she might have done it, got cold feet at the last minute before the publication and then it got published anyway . This complicates a bit the story with possible legal battles or attempts to just hide it since it was a very unknown magazine. L&P also said that the magazine gig It's rather something Sophia could be proud of. Dylan and Sophia will have a nice conversation about that.
It has pointed out, though, that differently from Liam's works in which models are used to sell clothes, this seems more a man's magazine selling sex, which is a bit different and a bit harder to be proud of. We'll see the remaining 6 shots if are more daring or they will be on the same lines as the 4 already revealed.
- Curiously, the magazine cover is a collage of different existing Maxim covers, e.g.
View attachment 2582112
here you can find the whole bunch of them.
- The most interesting point is how and when Dylan actually discovers the magazine cover. Nothing more is said in the text of the teaser. There could be at least 2 possibilities
- Sophia tells Dylanabout the bikini gig for some reason during their conversation and then either
- She knew that some online evidences were still there and tip him off to go search for it. So the teaser is about Dylan going online (maybe he went to pick up his phone) and finding the pictures.
- She did not know about the online photos and Dylan goes online on his phone to search and finds it.
- Dylan found the images before this event by himself and he is now revealing them, thus opening a lot of questions about the whole story up to now, **potentially** up to a possible "Twist 2.0" in which Dylan has known about it for quite some time and all the events so far were driven by his tentative to bring back that young Sophia spirit (which was kind of the motivation behind of the removed twist).
- As said before Sophia will proudly tell him about the gig, but it is to see, depending on the various cases, if she would like to keep that information well hidden as it has been so far. In this case, Dylan could use his "hacker" skills to save the day and try to remove it from the internet. Thus getting Sophia's gratitude and probably some... reward.
- As a frivolous curiosity, at the end of the fashion show event Dylan made a fake Playboy cover out of Sophia's shot () View attachment 2582119 View attachment 2582120
Is that a hint?
How it will play out from here
- The timeline: Sophia is almost 20 when she does the gig, and she will get pregnant of Ellie by the time she is in her late 20 or early 21. It's not clear if she already met Liam when she did the gig, in any case not even Liam knows about it. It's difficult to place all events as there has always been a little confusion with the ages of Ellie and Dylan, hopefully, when Sophia will tell the story everything will be more clear.
- As a side note about the timeline, it's worth noting that the whole story is being shifted by about 5 years to make it more up-to-date. Initially, it was taking place in 2017, now from the remastered version we know that it is now set in 2022. But the cover is dated July 2002, when Sophia was 19/20. Which will make her more than 38 in 2022. So, again, let's wait and see to disentangle this complicated timeline.
In the last teaser, enjoying some quality time together
View attachment 2582110
we see the two in a more intimate and relaxed position.
It's not clear what will actually happen between the two, considering that there will be probably a lot of text to tell about the magazine year and possibly other episodes of Sophia's past. Since there are 3 animations some touching and groping can be expected. One cannot exclude that one of the animations could be from the flashbacks. Here you have a suggestion for one of the animations that may very well fit the last teaser
Also it is not clear whether the whole event only takes place in the bathtub or there is a change of location at some point. For example, it could be Dylan's room if he will try to delete the pictures and/or e.g. if there will be a remake of some of the shots from the magazine for the old time sake.
More importantly, this event is clearly crucial for the Sophia/Dylan relationship, it could be a turning point. During the run in the park for the first time, Sophia started to see Dylan not as just his son but as a young man. Will this event build on that trying to put the two even closer to overcoming the mon/son relationship? Will it instead go on with some sort of sex-ed again, e.g. teaching how to kiss? It's difficult to image how L&P could move the story between the two forward without falling into the trap of "flipping the switch" or relying on some trite tropes.
Another interesting point is Sophia's attitude. We saw in Sam's episode that for the first time she took some initiative and she was a continuous tease. Obviously that cannot be the case with Dylan yet because he's starting from a very different position. If we want to compare with Sam (providing a comparison can be made given the different nature of the relationship), he is starting, roughly speaking, more or less from the Sam's concert level and it there is a very short time-frame to get to the "same level" so-to-speak as Sam's in these two events. We can expect as usual some conflicts in her thoughts before allowing things going farther. Probably, to have her more "active" we will have to wait for the next event. And, yet, it will be interesting how this mon/son relationship is managed and overcome in the story.
Finally, we'll see if, as in Sam's event, there will be a cliffhanger that will be continued in the second part, and above all, if there will be the usual unfailing interruption, a true trademark of all awam scenes!
How to get the event.
The event **should be** available only on the Dylan's route but not on the Boarding School route as that should be preventing any further progress between Dylan and Sophia.
If you don't have the saves and you still want to play it normally with all the options, you might need to set some variables in order to get the event. You can set the variable values with Renpy console, theYou must be registered to see the links, or the Universal Renpy Mod.
These are a set of variables that **might** be needed to play the event, other variable might be needed for specific dialogues.
Variable Value Meaning filthy > good_wife
e.g. set filthy to 1000, it does not matter as long as the condition is met This is usually needed to further advance with the more daring choices. dylan
58 That should be the max points that Dylan can have after the run in the park. For that a threshold of 40 was necessary to trigger the event. You can cheat and put 1000 just to be sure. day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_1
day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_2
True
These two are the outcome of their last event in the park. day19_Mr_Harris_saw_Sophia_in_her_filthy_dress
True
Probably there will be dialogues based on this. Probably not necessary for the Sophia's choice of teasing Mr Harris because after all the office was in the GW route and optional. day20_Christine_invites_Dylan_to_her_party
False
Just to be sure day20_Dylan_kissed_Marie_in_laundromat
False
If Dylan/Marie prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path Emma_and_Dylan_couple
False
If Dylan/Emma prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path
Oh dear.Die!
If you like complex stories, VERY good renders, long dialogues and lots of blue balls, this is your VN, but if you're looking for sex and hot scenes, don't go here, my personal opinion is that you skip it and save yourself a displeasureHi folks. Just found the game and the premise seems interesting. Was just curious though, the game has been in development for some years it seems, how much content, in playtime, can I expect from it? Does it have a developed story that can be enjoyed or would it be prudent to wait a few more patches yet?
This man should be given the update for free!Before the usual commotion holds the thread hostage, let's make a brief recap of what to expect.
This v0.185 is the first part of the evening event with Sophia and Dylan. The second part will be covered in the next release.
It is probably the first time we got so much information from L&P about a release.
As per his words, Part 1 is the build-up for Part 2 in some way, naturally. They merge into each other. But without spoiling much I can say both parts have something very hot to give, this is for sure. Part 1 I would say is additionally the more "artistic part" and more "story-heavy". And both events will mark the next step in their relationship (source).
As a benchmark in terms of "hotness", the evening events will be at least as hot as the Sam event if not even hotter and, overall he won't achieve anything less than Sam . Moreover, [part 1] it's pretty story heavy where you learn more about Sophia's/Dylan's past and expand Sophia's and Dylan's relationship further. And additionally the renders and characters look even better than before.
As for the "story-heavy", we know that Sophia will tell Dylan when she lost her virginity, that there will be flashbacks about her past but not about that. He announced 3 "in between specials", one of which has been already revealed to be the magazine gig.
With this big picture in mind, so far we know that the release consists of 416 renders, which will make Part 1 the 3rd event in terms of number of renders, just after the Yoga and last Sam's event.
View attachment 2582061
We also know that there will be 3 animations, 2 are rather short with around 6-10 seconds, and a long one with almost 30 seconds.
Other than these already big numbers, there have been 15 (!!!) teasers that came with a lot of context and explications for L&P standards.
Roughly speaking, we can divide the teasers into 3 main blocks.
Change of plan
As anticipated in the previous release, Sophia went to Claire because (we learned) she was supposed to spend a nice date night with Liam at some fancy restaurant. Obviously, that plan had to fail.
Unsurprisingly, the first two teasers explained that Liam has to cancel as his boss, Mr Harris is coming over to watch the football game and the romantic dinner is postponed to Sunday evening (PD15).
View attachment 2582064
Then Sophia meets Dylan who, in turn, explains his plans for the evening: according to the previous choices he is headed either to Christine's party (bonus storyline path)t OR to a basketball game (other route(s)). At this point, Sophia tells him about her changed plan and it is not clear if it is at this time he might have the choice to drop the basket game and ask to spend the evening together.
View attachment 2582067
It turns out that she will be spending the night with a relaxing bath, as we see her getting ready.
View attachment 2582070
Some questions arise here.
- The choice of a bikini to take a bath is rather odd, especially such a skimpy one. One possible explanation is that Dylan already asked (or was offered) to spend the evening together with a relaxing bath. That way it would make sense for her to wear a bikini.
- This brings us to the question of when they decide to spend the evening together. Is it at the very beginning when they meet (2nd teaser), more likely for the above reason, or it will happen later on e.g. when Dylan crosses again Sophia?
- Another question is more related to Liam. How is he gonna be portrayed wrt the failed evening plan? We don't know how much of an imposition was Mr Harris' self-invitation for the football game. For sure this mishap is going to hurt Sophia who was all excited about it and went through the change of hairstyle. It will be interesting what impact it has on the story if it is another device to cast a bad light on Liam and for Sophia to feel even more neglected. One can only hope, for the sake of the story, that it won't turn out the trite trope of the neglected wife, which somehow gives Sophia an "excuse" to go further with her affairs. And this leads directly to the next block of teasers.
Hello, "Mr Boss"
The text accompanying the 4th teaser is quite clear: While Sophia is getting ready for her relaxing bath, the doorbell rings. Mr. Harris is here. Liam asked Sophia to say hi to his boss. But not in which way. Depending on what Sophia's corruption status is, she can either say hi by changing into an ordinary robe or stay like this and teach her husband a little lesson by teasing his boss a little bit in front of him...
View attachment 2582073
Apparently, as a little "revenge" for the planned evening disaster, Sophia could have the option to tease the boss when greeting him downstairs: Sophia (filthy) says hi to Liam's boss, Mr Harris, as he asked her to...:
View attachment 2582075
According to the previous choice, Sophia will greet Mr Harris in her robe giving him a little show.
Obviously until the release of the 5th teaser the speculation about that "teasing" ran wild in the forum with more or less plausible options . There were indeed a lot of discussions because, between the 3rd and the 4th teaser, she seemed to have removed the top. This suggests she might greet the boss without the top under her robe, thus opening the possibility of an unintended wardrobe malfunction, transforming the tease into something spicier.
Now it seems from the 5th teaser that she will be just presenting herself in a bikini with the robe slightly opened. On the other hand, it has been suggested that for once L&P could have fooled us with a teaser that will be a little different than the final release, were things may be a little spicier. We will see...
To come back to the previous question, it will be interesting to measure what Liam's reaction will be and how flirty Sophia will be, and the potential impact that this could have on the story. It's worth remembering that Mr Harris has already caught Sophia (depending on the route and the choices) in Liam's office the day before when she visited him and had sex. In that case, the walkthrough mentioned that "Whereby it could be important later if Liam's boss Mr Harris caught her in her filthy dress or not!". It's not clear if this choice to tease Mr Harris depends also on that or if it just adds to the previous to unlock a future event.
Finally, it's not clear, how the sub-events will be interconnected, e.g. whether the teasing will only happen if she accepted to have a bath with Dylan or it will be independent. Also, L&P never mentioned the other Dylan's path for the evening, studying with Emma. Here is a possible flowchart for how the event **might** play out,
View attachment 2582076
you can follow the discussions here to see all the possibilities
The bath
Once done with the Boss, Sophia and Dylan will enjoy a relaxing bath together, as shown by the next 3 teasers
Ready to go: Sophia picks Dylan up at his room for their little private wellness time together.
View attachment 2582081
Setting everything up for some quality time together
View attachment 2582084
Taking care of each other
View attachment 2582091
Nothing particular in these, if not the "romantic" setting full of candles (someone went as far as suggesting some erotic game with the wax later on) and the big horse brush Sophia is using
. Also, in the teaser we have the beefed version of Dylan, the one from Decisions of Life (DoL) for the obvious reasons related to Patreon ToS. In the game, there will be the "usual" version, although there are users interested in a mod for the game to get the beefed version also in the release...
A more interesting series of teasers came just after when we get to know a secret from Sophia's past:
A surprising discovery (little "in-between special") Dylan made a surprising discovery about Sophia's past.
View attachment 2582093
It turned out that Sophia had a past as a model in a men's magazine
Youthful Sins (What Dylan found out about Sophia)
Dylan found in the deepest abyss of the internet some old magazine that Sophia modelled for when she was just getting into college when she was 19. It's a relatively unknown magazine, so Sophia has managed to keep this little youthful sin secret. Until now. The photoshoot includes a total of 10 hot photos with her.
The cover
View attachment 2582095
and the 4 shots that has been released as teasers:
View attachment 2582100 View attachment 2582101 View attachment 2582103 View attachment 2582108
The magazine gig
That obviously sparked a lot of questions and discussions.
- This is something new from Sophia's past that has never been mentioned in the story so far, even though there were events in which the topic could have come up. For example during the fashion show, in her thought she revealed that she doesn't know how to pose
and, before in day 2 during the role-playing with Liam it is said thatPython:s "{color=#f2ff66}(I actually don't even know what to do. I mean, of course, I've seen some fashion shows and photo shoots with my husband, but this is different!)"
We will see how this is introduced in the story but it feels a little bit like a retcon. Of course, it is important to avoid spoiling too many future events but maybe there could have been a way to maintain coherence.Python:"{color=#ffffff}She had never really modeled before but she had seen some fashion shows on TV and remembered some poses from there. But she remained a little reserved at first."
- This also might cast a different light on Sophia's younger years. We knew that Patricia was the wildest between the two and that Sophia might have had her share of fun before getting pregnant. During Sam's events, she referred to her youth as "rebellious teenage years". The magazine gig might open a window into her past that might be different than we thought reading the story so far.
L&P also explained that she was young and she needed the money. The question is what for? She was getting into college and she might have needed the money like any student or there was something more? (also considering that she was coming from a wealthy family). Was it part of some sort of "rebellion" against her parents?
- Another possible theory is that she might have done it, got cold feet at the last minute before the publication and then it got published anyway . This complicates a bit the story with possible legal battles or attempts to just hide it since it was a very unknown magazine. L&P also said that the magazine gig It's rather something Sophia could be proud of. Dylan and Sophia will have a nice conversation about that.
It has pointed out, though, that differently from Liam's works in which models are used to sell clothes, this seems more a man's magazine selling sex, which is a bit different and a bit harder to be proud of. We'll see the remaining 6 shots if are more daring or they will be on the same lines as the 4 already revealed.
- Curiously, the magazine cover is a collage of different existing Maxim covers, e.g.
View attachment 2582112
here you can find the whole bunch of them.
- The most interesting point is how and when Dylan actually discovers the magazine cover. Nothing more is said in the text of the teaser. There could be at least 2 possibilities
- Sophia tells Dylanabout the bikini gig for some reason during their conversation and then either
- She knew that some online evidences were still there and tip him off to go search for it. So the teaser is about Dylan going online (maybe he went to pick up his phone) and finding the pictures.
- She did not know about the online photos and Dylan goes online on his phone to search and finds it.
- Dylan found the images before this event by himself and he is now revealing them, thus opening a lot of questions about the whole story up to now, **potentially** up to a possible "Twist 2.0" in which Dylan has known about it for quite some time and all the events so far were driven by his tentative to bring back that young Sophia spirit (which was kind of the motivation behind of the removed twist).
- As said before Sophia will proudly tell him about the gig, but it is to see, depending on the various cases, if she would like to keep that information well hidden as it has been so far. In this case, Dylan could use his "hacker" skills to save the day and try to remove it from the internet. Thus getting Sophia's gratitude and probably some... reward.
- As a frivolous curiosity, at the end of the fashion show event Dylan made a fake Playboy cover out of Sophia's shot () View attachment 2582119 View attachment 2582120
Is that a hint?
How it will play out from here
- The timeline: Sophia is almost 20 when she does the gig, and she will get pregnant of Ellie by the time she is in her late 20 or early 21. It's not clear if she already met Liam when she did the gig, in any case not even Liam knows about it. It's difficult to place all events as there has always been a little confusion with the ages of Ellie and Dylan, hopefully, when Sophia will tell the story everything will be more clear.
- As a side note about the timeline, it's worth noting that the whole story is being shifted by about 5 years to make it more up-to-date. Initially, it was taking place in 2017, now from the remastered version we know that it is now set in 2022. But the cover is dated July 2002, when Sophia was 19/20. Which will make her more than 38 in 2022. So, again, let's wait and see to disentangle this complicated timeline.
In the last teaser, enjoying some quality time together
View attachment 2582110
we see the two in a more intimate and relaxed position.
It's not clear what will actually happen between the two, considering that there will be probably a lot of text to tell about the magazine year and possibly other episodes of Sophia's past. Since there are 3 animations some touching and groping can be expected. One cannot exclude that one of the animations could be from the flashbacks. Here you have a suggestion for one of the animations that may very well fit the last teaser
Also it is not clear whether the whole event only takes place in the bathtub or there is a change of location at some point. For example, it could be Dylan's room if he will try to delete the pictures and/or e.g. if there will be a remake of some of the shots from the magazine for the old time sake.
More importantly, this event is clearly crucial for the Sophia/Dylan relationship, it could be a turning point. During the run in the park for the first time, Sophia started to see Dylan not as just his son but as a young man. Will this event build on that trying to put the two even closer to overcoming the mon/son relationship? Will it instead go on with some sort of sex-ed again, e.g. teaching how to kiss? It's difficult to image how L&P could move the story between the two forward without falling into the trap of "flipping the switch" or relying on some trite tropes.
Another interesting point is Sophia's attitude. We saw in Sam's episode that for the first time she took some initiative and she was a continuous tease. Obviously that cannot be the case with Dylan yet because he's starting from a very different position. If we want to compare with Sam (providing a comparison can be made given the different nature of the relationship), he is starting, roughly speaking, more or less from the Sam's concert level and it there is a very short time-frame to get to the "same level" so-to-speak as Sam's in these two events. We can expect as usual some conflicts in her thoughts before allowing things going farther. Probably, to have her more "active" we will have to wait for the next event. And, yet, it will be interesting how this mon/son relationship is managed and overcome in the story.
Finally, we'll see if, as in Sam's event, there will be a cliffhanger that will be continued in the second part, and above all, if there will be the usual unfailing interruption, a true trademark of all awam scenes!
How to get the event.
The event **should be** available only on the Dylan's route but not on the Boarding School route as that should be preventing any further progress between Dylan and Sophia.
If you don't have the saves and you still want to play it normally with all the options, you might need to set some variables in order to get the event. You can set the variable values with Renpy console, theYou must be registered to see the links, or the Universal Renpy Mod.
These are a set of variables that **might** be needed to play the event, other variable might be needed for specific dialogues.
Variable Value Meaning filthy > good_wife
e.g. set filthy to 1000, it does not matter as long as the condition is met This is usually needed to further advance with the more daring choices. dylan
58 That should be the max points that Dylan can have after the run in the park. For that a threshold of 40 was necessary to trigger the event. You can cheat and put 1000 just to be sure. day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_1
day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_2
True
These two are the outcome of their last event in the park. day19_Mr_Harris_saw_Sophia_in_her_filthy_dress
True
Probably there will be dialogues based on this. Probably not necessary for the Sophia's choice of teasing Mr Harris because after all the office was in the GW route and optional. day20_Christine_invites_Dylan_to_her_party
False
Just to be sure day20_Dylan_kissed_Marie_in_laundromat
False
If Dylan/Marie prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path Emma_and_Dylan_couple
False
If Dylan/Emma prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path
Right... that's discouraging. I like reading interesting narrations regardless of length, but usually avoid them if they are a WIP. Not a fan of re-reading stuff every few months. Thank you. Will shelve it for now.-snip-
OMG!! great work man!Before the usual commotion holds the thread hostage, let's make a brief recap of what to expect.
This v0.185 is the first part of the evening event with Sophia and Dylan. The second part will be covered in the next release.
It is probably the first time we got so much information from L&P about a release.
As per his words, Part 1 is the build-up for Part 2 in some way, naturally. They merge into each other. But without spoiling much I can say both parts have something very hot to give, this is for sure. Part 1 I would say is additionally the more "artistic part" and more "story-heavy". And both events will mark the next step in their relationship (source).
As a benchmark in terms of "hotness", the evening events will be at least as hot as the Sam event if not even hotter and, overall he won't achieve anything less than Sam . Moreover, [part 1] it's pretty story heavy where you learn more about Sophia's/Dylan's past and expand Sophia's and Dylan's relationship further. And additionally the renders and characters look even better than before.
As for the "story-heavy", we know that Sophia will tell Dylan when she lost her virginity, that there will be flashbacks about her past but not about that. He announced 3 "in between specials", one of which has been already revealed to be the magazine gig.
With this big picture in mind, so far we know that the release consists of 416 renders, which will make Part 1 the 3rd event in terms of number of renders, just after the Yoga and last Sam's event.
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We also know that there will be 3 animations, 2 are rather short with around 6-10 seconds, and a long one with almost 30 seconds.
Other than these already big numbers, there have been 15 (!!!) teasers that came with a lot of context and explications for L&P standards.
Roughly speaking, we can divide the teasers into 3 main blocks.
Change of plan
As anticipated in the previous release, Sophia went to Claire because (we learned) she was supposed to spend a nice date night with Liam at some fancy restaurant. Obviously, that plan had to fail.
Unsurprisingly, the first two teasers explained that Liam has to cancel as his boss, Mr Harris is coming over to watch the football game and the romantic dinner is postponed to Sunday evening (PD15).
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Then Sophia meets Dylan who, in turn, explains his plans for the evening: according to the previous choices he is headed either to Christine's party (bonus storyline path)t OR to a basketball game (other route(s)). At this point, Sophia tells him about her changed plan and it is not clear if it is at this time he might have the choice to drop the basket game and ask to spend the evening together.
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It turns out that she will be spending the night with a relaxing bath, as we see her getting ready.
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Some questions arise here.
- The choice of a bikini to take a bath is rather odd, especially such a skimpy one. One possible explanation is that Dylan already asked (or was offered) to spend the evening together with a relaxing bath. That way it would make sense for her to wear a bikini.
- This brings us to the question of when they decide to spend the evening together. Is it at the very beginning when they meet (2nd teaser), more likely for the above reason, or it will happen later on e.g. when Dylan crosses again Sophia?
- Another question is more related to Liam. How is he gonna be portrayed wrt the failed evening plan? We don't know how much of an imposition was Mr Harris' self-invitation for the football game. For sure this mishap is going to hurt Sophia who was all excited about it and went through the change of hairstyle. It will be interesting what impact it has on the story if it is another device to cast a bad light on Liam and for Sophia to feel even more neglected. One can only hope, for the sake of the story, that it won't turn out the trite trope of the neglected wife, which somehow gives Sophia an "excuse" to go further with her affairs. And this leads directly to the next block of teasers.
Hello, "Mr Boss"
The text accompanying the 4th teaser is quite clear: While Sophia is getting ready for her relaxing bath, the doorbell rings. Mr. Harris is here. Liam asked Sophia to say hi to his boss. But not in which way. Depending on what Sophia's corruption status is, she can either say hi by changing into an ordinary robe or stay like this and teach her husband a little lesson by teasing his boss a little bit in front of him...
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Apparently, as a little "revenge" for the planned evening disaster, Sophia could have the option to tease the boss when greeting him downstairs: Sophia (filthy) says hi to Liam's boss, Mr Harris, as he asked her to...:
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According to the previous choice, Sophia will greet Mr Harris in her robe giving him a little show.
Obviously until the release of the 5th teaser the speculation about that "teasing" ran wild in the forum with more or less plausible options . There were indeed a lot of discussions because, between the 3rd and the 4th teaser, she seemed to have removed the top. This suggests she might greet the boss without the top under her robe, thus opening the possibility of an unintended wardrobe malfunction, transforming the tease into something spicier.
Now it seems from the 5th teaser that she will be just presenting herself in a bikini with the robe slightly opened. On the other hand, it has been suggested that for once L&P could have fooled us with a teaser that will be a little different than the final release, were things may be a little spicier. We will see...
To come back to the previous question, it will be interesting to measure what Liam's reaction will be and how flirty Sophia will be, and the potential impact that this could have on the story. It's worth remembering that Mr Harris has already caught Sophia (depending on the route and the choices) in Liam's office the day before when she visited him and had sex. In that case, the walkthrough mentioned that "Whereby it could be important later if Liam's boss Mr Harris caught her in her filthy dress or not!". It's not clear if this choice to tease Mr Harris depends also on that or if it just adds to the previous to unlock a future event.
Finally, it's not clear, how the sub-events will be interconnected, e.g. whether the teasing will only happen if she accepted to have a bath with Dylan or it will be independent. Also, L&P never mentioned the other Dylan's path for the evening, studying with Emma. Here is a possible flowchart for how the event **might** play out,
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you can follow the discussions here to see all the possibilities
The bath
Once done with the Boss, Sophia and Dylan will enjoy a relaxing bath together, as shown by the next 3 teasers
Ready to go: Sophia picks Dylan up at his room for their little private wellness time together.
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Setting everything up for some quality time together
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Taking care of each other
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Nothing particular in these, if not the "romantic" setting full of candles (someone went as far as suggesting some erotic game with the wax later on) and the big horse brush Sophia is using
. Also, in the teaser we have the beefed version of Dylan, the one from Decisions of Life (DoL) for the obvious reasons related to Patreon ToS. In the game, there will be the "usual" version, although there are users interested in a mod for the game to get the beefed version also in the release...
A more interesting series of teasers came just after when we get to know a secret from Sophia's past:
A surprising discovery (little "in-between special") Dylan made a surprising discovery about Sophia's past.
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It turned out that Sophia had a past as a model in a men's magazine
Youthful Sins (What Dylan found out about Sophia)
Dylan found in the deepest abyss of the internet some old magazine that Sophia modelled for when she was just getting into college when she was 19. It's a relatively unknown magazine, so Sophia has managed to keep this little youthful sin secret. Until now. The photoshoot includes a total of 10 hot photos with her.
The cover
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and the 4 shots that has been released as teasers:
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The magazine gig
That obviously sparked a lot of questions and discussions.
- This is something new from Sophia's past that has never been mentioned in the story so far, even though there were events in which the topic could have come up. For example during the fashion show, in her thought she revealed that she doesn't know how to pose
and, before in day 2 during the role-playing with Liam it is said thatPython:s "{color=#f2ff66}(I actually don't even know what to do. I mean, of course, I've seen some fashion shows and photo shoots with my husband, but this is different!)"
We will see how this is introduced in the story but it feels a little bit like a retcon. Of course, it is important to avoid spoiling too many future events but maybe there could have been a way to maintain coherence.Python:"{color=#ffffff}She had never really modeled before but she had seen some fashion shows on TV and remembered some poses from there. But she remained a little reserved at first."
- This also might cast a different light on Sophia's younger years. We knew that Patricia was the wildest between the two and that Sophia might have had her share of fun before getting pregnant. During Sam's events, she referred to her youth as "rebellious teenage years". The magazine gig might open a window into her past that might be different than we thought reading the story so far.
L&P also explained that she was young and she needed the money. The question is what for? She was getting into college and she might have needed the money like any student or there was something more? (also considering that she was coming from a wealthy family). Was it part of some sort of "rebellion" against her parents?
- Another possible theory is that she might have done it, got cold feet at the last minute before the publication and then it got published anyway . This complicates a bit the story with possible legal battles or attempts to just hide it since it was a very unknown magazine. L&P also said that the magazine gig It's rather something Sophia could be proud of. Dylan and Sophia will have a nice conversation about that.
It has pointed out, though, that differently from Liam's works in which models are used to sell clothes, this seems more a man's magazine selling sex, which is a bit different and a bit harder to be proud of. We'll see the remaining 6 shots if are more daring or they will be on the same lines as the 4 already revealed.
- Curiously, the magazine cover is a collage of different existing Maxim covers, e.g.
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here you can find the whole bunch of them.
- The most interesting point is how and when Dylan actually discovers the magazine cover. Nothing more is said in the text of the teaser. There could be at least 2 possibilities
- Sophia tells Dylanabout the bikini gig for some reason during their conversation and then either
- She knew that some online evidences were still there and tip him off to go search for it. So the teaser is about Dylan going online (maybe he went to pick up his phone) and finding the pictures.
- She did not know about the online photos and Dylan goes online on his phone to search and finds it.
- Dylan found the images before this event by himself and he is now revealing them, thus opening a lot of questions about the whole story up to now, **potentially** up to a possible "Twist 2.0" in which Dylan has known about it for quite some time and all the events so far were driven by his tentative to bring back that young Sophia spirit (which was kind of the motivation behind of the removed twist).
- As said before Sophia will proudly tell him about the gig, but it is to see, depending on the various cases, if she would like to keep that information well hidden as it has been so far. In this case, Dylan could use his "hacker" skills to save the day and try to remove it from the internet. Thus getting Sophia's gratitude and probably some... reward.
- As a frivolous curiosity, at the end of the fashion show event Dylan made a fake Playboy cover out of Sophia's shot () View attachment 2582119 View attachment 2582120
Is that a hint?
How it will play out from here
- The timeline: Sophia is almost 20 when she does the gig, and she will get pregnant of Ellie by the time she is in her late 20 or early 21. It's not clear if she already met Liam when she did the gig, in any case not even Liam knows about it. It's difficult to place all events as there has always been a little confusion with the ages of Ellie and Dylan, hopefully, when Sophia will tell the story everything will be more clear.
- As a side note about the timeline, it's worth noting that the whole story is being shifted by about 5 years to make it more up-to-date. Initially, it was taking place in 2017, now from the remastered version we know that it is now set in 2022. But the cover is dated July 2002, when Sophia was 19/20. Which will make her more than 38 in 2022. So, again, let's wait and see to disentangle this complicated timeline.
In the last teaser, enjoying some quality time together
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we see the two in a more intimate and relaxed position.
It's not clear what will actually happen between the two, considering that there will be probably a lot of text to tell about the magazine year and possibly other episodes of Sophia's past. Since there are 3 animations some touching and groping can be expected. One cannot exclude that one of the animations could be from the flashbacks. Here you have a suggestion for one of the animations that may very well fit the last teaser
Also it is not clear whether the whole event only takes place in the bathtub or there is a change of location at some point. For example, it could be Dylan's room if he will try to delete the pictures and/or e.g. if there will be a remake of some of the shots from the magazine for the old time sake.
More importantly, this event is clearly crucial for the Sophia/Dylan relationship, it could be a turning point. During the run in the park for the first time, Sophia started to see Dylan not as just his son but as a young man. Will this event build on that trying to put the two even closer to overcoming the mon/son relationship? Will it instead go on with some sort of sex-ed again, e.g. teaching how to kiss? It's difficult to image how L&P could move the story between the two forward without falling into the trap of "flipping the switch" or relying on some trite tropes.
Another interesting point is Sophia's attitude. We saw in Sam's episode that for the first time she took some initiative and she was a continuous tease. Obviously that cannot be the case with Dylan yet because he's starting from a very different position. If we want to compare with Sam (providing a comparison can be made given the different nature of the relationship), he is starting, roughly speaking, more or less from the Sam's concert level and it there is a very short time-frame to get to the "same level" so-to-speak as Sam's in these two events. We can expect as usual some conflicts in her thoughts before allowing things going farther. Probably, to have her more "active" we will have to wait for the next event. And, yet, it will be interesting how this mon/son relationship is managed and overcome in the story.
Finally, we'll see if, as in Sam's event, there will be a cliffhanger that will be continued in the second part, and above all, if there will be the usual unfailing interruption, a true trademark of all awam scenes!
How to get the event.
The event **should be** available only on the Dylan's route but not on the Boarding School route as that should be preventing any further progress between Dylan and Sophia.
If you don't have the saves and you still want to play it normally with all the options, you might need to set some variables in order to get the event. You can set the variable values with Renpy console, theYou must be registered to see the links, or the Universal Renpy Mod.
These are a set of variables that **might** be needed to play the event, other variable might be needed for specific dialogues.
Variable Value Meaning filthy > good_wife
e.g. set filthy to 1000, it does not matter as long as the condition is met This is usually needed to further advance with the more daring choices. dylan
58 That should be the max points that Dylan can have after the run in the park. For that a threshold of 40 was necessary to trigger the event. You can cheat and put 1000 just to be sure. day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_1
day19_Dylan_protected_his_mom_vs_hobos_2
True
These two are the outcome of their last event in the park. day19_Mr_Harris_saw_Sophia_in_her_filthy_dress
True
Probably there will be dialogues based on this. Probably not necessary for the Sophia's choice of teasing Mr Harris because after all the office was in the GW route and optional. day20_Christine_invites_Dylan_to_her_party
False
Just to be sure day20_Dylan_kissed_Marie_in_laundromat
False
If Dylan/Marie prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path Emma_and_Dylan_couple
False
If Dylan/Emma prevents any further development it would be better to avoid this path