I think there's probably multiple routes within the event, for example you can have some kind of scene with Ellie but not the other 3 girls and vice versa, or maybe you can go "further" in this event but only if you continuously pick the same girl over and over. So could be 2 hours total if you go through each path but probably not going to be 2 hours for 1 route.
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Players saw the jacuzzi scene in the final teaser of version 0.190, and it was the final scene of the game.Here is the usual not-so-short recap of the upcoming release
As a TL;DR and to spare some of you the wall of text:
/!\ NO, SOPHIA IS NOT IN THIS EVENT /!\
This v0.195 is the last update for PD 13 (Day 20, Friday). It has been confirmed by L&P that the scheduled Emma's event won't be released, at least for the time being (maybe later as a DLC?). It closes a more than 2 years long development cycle since the beginning of v0.155 in November 2021.
The event does not feature Sophia (at least not in any relevant role), and it is about Dylan/Ellie's bonus path. From the event earlier in the morning, we know that Christine has invited Ellie to her place for the evening to forget about Logan, who Ellie has just caught cheating on her. Dylan is also invited, provided he can bring some booze. Of course, this is only possible if Ellie does not forgive Logan.
This event will be alternative only to part 2 of Sophia/Dylan. In the previous version, you had the choice of continuing with Sophia or going to Christine's party (or the basketball game if not on the bonus path).
Probably there will be 2 ways to access the event (beside the gallery). One is to to go back or have a save of that choice in v0.190
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This is the first time since the switch to per-event release cycle in which you have to go back to a previous event to start the new one.
The other way **could** be if Sophia didn't show her breasts at the mall (day17_Sophia_shows_Dylan_her_breasts == False), as that condition in v0.185 (Sophia/Dylan pt 1) lead Sophia to bath alone and wish Dylan a great fun at the party. In this case the starting point should be Sophia watching some tv alone after her bath
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(I used a lot of conditionals because, while that's what the code says, it also means that the bonus path can happen even if the Sophia/Dylan path is over)
Here is a visual recap of the events of the evening
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After the cancellation of Emma's event, L&P wanted to do something special with this one and (of course!) he went overboard. The release has 760 renders, 3 animations and 29 pages of script, making it by far the biggest event. Just as reference, there previous update (v0.190) had 28 pages of script for 460 renders: we'll be back to L&P's original style with less narrative text and more dialogues.
Here is the updated list of the top 15 events by number of renders.
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The event will feature two new characters, Aimee and Naomi, Christine two hot friends from college who will attend her party, which initially was meant to be a little pajama party with Ellie (and Dylan). There will be also their boyfriends but they should play a very little role at the beginning before leaving. The other notable change in this release is Ellie's new hairstyle: as with Sophia, it is probably introduced to make the hair easier to handle when animating in Blender (if not in this release, then in future releases).
The teasers
The number of teasers reflected the size of the event with a new record breaking of 24 teasers.
Roughly, the story for this event starts with Dylan looking for the booze and then coming to the party as a saviour for bringing the booze.
Dylan is then left alone with the girls and will enjoy their company, with things starting to heat up as they play some truth or dare games.
Here is a tentative organisation of the teasers, each with its title and the description given by L&P.
A) Getting the booze and arriving at the party
1. Getting ready for the party
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(with different clothes this is the same render as Sophia/Dylan pt 2)
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2. A Risky Quest
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On the way to the party, Dylan stops at a gas station to buy booze with the money Christine gave him. The whole party is literally in his hands. Will he manage to get the booze with his fake ID and especially Christine's favorite drink, which she asked him for?
This teaser was interesting as it was probably a nod to Resident Evil (here is the asset) and some theories were suggested (of course!) about what could happen here.
The quest could be accomplished by helping the girl, either because she might be e.g. catcalled by the cowboy/rider or because she has some problem with the car, who in turns will buy the booze for him. Before the other teasers came out, it was suggested that the girl would turn out to be a friend of Christine's and show up at the party.
Most probably, though, this is just some vanity renders and he will do it with the fake ID.
Another aspect is the fact that we never saw Christine give him the money or tell him her favourite drink. So either that is left to the narrator or there is a phone call with Christine before he goes out.
3. Here comes the "party savior"!
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Dylan actually managed to get alcohol for the party, and especially Christine's favorite drink, which of course earns him more sympathy points with her. If you look in the window, it doesn't look like a girls night any longer.
4. Christine welcomes the "hero"
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After the not so warm welcome, Christine makes it clear that Dylan belongs to them.
The booze is here, so let's get this party started!
B) Alone with the girls
After introducing the two new girls, Dylan, the sly dog, manage to stay alone with them for the rest of the night.
5. The girls of the party (Christine, Ellie with new hairstyles)
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Ellie, Naomi, Aimee and Christine.
The reaction of the girls when the guys want to leave the party before it has even started. Dylan the sly dog, actually found a way to chase away their boyfriends to have the girls just for himself for the evening.
Dylan will probably use the tickets for the basketball game to lure the boyfriends out of the house. As you may remember, the tickets were introduced in Sophia/Dylan pt 1 and it was one of his options for spending the evening.
6. Gathering courage to fit in
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Is not very easy as the youngest and as the only male representative of the party facing such beauties. Is not very easy as the youngest and the only male representative of the party to such beauties of which two do not even know you. But you have to man up!
7. A little snack between
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Dylan manages to integrate more and more...
8. Slipping into something more comfortable
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Without the boys, the girls switch to "pajama party mode."
Of course, it has been suggested that Dylan might have the opportunity to spy on the girls while changing, similar to what happened during the yoga event.
In any case, it will be his turn to change into something more comfortable.
9. Someone is not yet dressed quite appropriately
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10. Calm before the storm
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After having partied enough, everyone changed into their nightwear and they first decided to have some relaxation and entertainment together.
3) The after party
This is where things start to heat up. The foursome begin to play the usual party games of truth or dare, and as we see in the rest of the teaser, each of them will have their dare. And we can be sure that this is just the beginning of the "real action", as is always the case with teasers.
11. The "afterparty"
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So that Dylan doesn't get too bored, a game where he can also have "some fun".
12. Who's got the best body?
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A pretty tough first truth question for Dylan straight away. He is literally spoiled for choice. With his decisions, he can influence the further course of the evening.
Here you also have an explanation of why this event, among others, is so elaborate and complex with so many renders. To make it as realistic as possible, I let you as Dylan decide which girl you take when the bottle hits him. So I have to develop one truth and a couple of dares for all the girls or some of them.
It looks like we are going to have a modern version of the Judgement of Paris.
13. There Will Be Blood
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Ellie and Aimee will have their very own little duel.
14. Ellie vs Aimee round 2
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Ellie dares Aimee and Naomi as direct revenge for her previous dare. Aimee's look reveals "you'll get it back".
15. Let's get down on it
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"Sharing is caring"
Probably a whip cream swapping dare?
16. Dylan isn't spared either
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Dylan wonders what he will have to do? Remove one of his clothes? Give one of the girls a massage? Or even kiss one of the girls? Or maybe something else?
17. Christine shows what she's got
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The game is picking up speed.
18. Show me what you got
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Who dares the most this evening?
19. Shake Ya Ass
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It's Naomi's turn...
20. Give that big booty a slap
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*Smack*
21. Ellie isn't spared either
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Nevertheless: you can but don't have to!
22. How far is she willing to go?
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With your actions remember: less is sometimes more!
23. On thin ice (with Ellie)
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Remember, sometimes less is more.
23. Special Xmas Bonus Teaser
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I didn't have time to prepare anything special so I thought about posting a very special bonus teaser just before the update release.
And before anyone asks, yes, this render is actually from the next updateAnd no, Aimee is not going to be Dylan's new girlfriend. You'll soon find out what is behind this.
In the best tradition of the forum, speculation ran wild as to whether or not she was in fact Aimee, as her hairstyle and lips appear to be slightly different. But in the end the common consensus is that she is indeed Aimee.
What to expect
Here are some aspects to consider for this event and some speculation made about what could unfold.
- Perhaps a less interesting question that this event can answer is the decision to split the Sophia/Dylan event into two, and make the first part compatible with the current event. One possible reason is that part 1 is in some way propaedeutic to this one: the quick sex lesson in the bathtub with some practice could be important for Dylan to play his cards well with all the girls. [sarcasm]Like the martial arts lesson, Sophia's lesson could have prepared him, given him the necessary confidence and made him the best kisser in town [/sarcasm]. Also, it would be interesting to see if anything that happened in part 1 (other than the sex lesson) plays a role in this event.
- As we can see from the teasers, the games played at the 'after party' will lead up to the juicier part of the event. While they seem to be mostly rounds of truth or dare, there could be other typical games being played. A naked twister has been suggested but this is probably too much. Others have suggested the "
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- From L&P's comment on Teaser 12, we also know that there will be choices during the game as to which girl Dylan chooses "to make it as realistic as possible". This may partially explain the high number of renders. On the other hand, it seems that this will only be for the benefit of the game and (hopefully) won't result in a number of possible paths. In this context, we know that there should only be 2 endings , one that continues Dylan/Ellie's bonus story ("good ending") and one that ends it ("bad ending").
- We can also expect these games to be just an appetizer for the "main event" that may come later. After some fun, they could call it a night and everyone could retire to different rooms and, depending on the previous choices, Dylan could end up having some time alone with Ellie, possibly with Christine too. He could also choose to visit one of the girls, but that would probably lead to the bad ending. It could also be that one route continues Ellie's path (but no sex for the time being) and the other, while ending it, leads to some more spicy content with any other girl. Similar (optimistic?) speculation places the possible spicy and sexy content (HJ, BJ, TF, girl on girl...) only with the other girls, limiting the interaction with Ellie to some kissing and groping at most.
- Which brings us to the main question: what will happen between Ellie and Dylan? How far they will go™ in this event is hard to say. The teasers haven't given much away, focusing more on the games and the interaction between the four characters. However, there seem to be some hints in the comments L&P left in the last teasers. It **seems** that Dylan has to be careful with his choices, especially those concerning Ellie: "You can, but you don't have to!", "Less is sometimes more!" and "Sometimes less is more." might suggest that he has to go easy on Ellie in order to have something more later. In a way, it could be a similar kind of choice he had with Amber (v0.165) and more recently with Sophia (v0.190), where he has to resist his teenager eagerness and save Ellie from dares that might be too embarrassing. It will be interesting to see Ellie's reaction, as seen in Teaser 22 with that enigmatic look.
- The general feeling is that the relationship between the two siblings will develop over the course of the evening without going too far in terms of lewd actions. The fact that Dylan will be the focus of the other girls' attention might give Ellie a different view of Dylan. Some have suggested that by watching Dylan interact with the other girls, Ellie might discover a new side to her brother and even become a little jealous.
Others have speculated that Dylan will "protect" Ellie from the dares of the game (less risky choices above), whether by sparing her from, for example, taking off her bra, or by taking her turn and doing the dare/undressing in her place, thus taking on the burden of "humiliating" himself , or, more extremely, by making a choice to spare Ellie or leave the company with her .
- At the end of the noon event Dylan asked Ellie for Logan's email address hinting he was concocting something to get back at him, probably playing on his jealousy:
Planning revenge on Logan could be another factor bringing the siblings together: Dylan could, as he did in the diner, pretend to be her new boyfriend and send him a spicy selfie of the two of them together, although it could easily backfire if not done properly . Or it could be another chance for him to show off his hacking skills (as he did for her when he fixed her PC or when he hacked into Marie's professor's PC) and he will instead cook up some digital scam (ransomware or malware kind of thing) .Python:e "Logan seemed already to have boasted about his 'heroic deed'!" e "What an asshole!" e "And yet he always got jealous when others looked at me the wrong way!" e "And Tyler had already came on to me the whole time!" dy "Really?" [...] dy "You mentioned that Logan always got jealous when other guys looked at you!" e "Uh... yeah?" dy "And you're really pissed at him cause he's a huge asshole, right? He probably thinks you'll come crawling back to him!" e "What are you getting at?" dy "Well...." dy "Maybe I got an idea on how you can get back at him." e "Uh... how?" ch "Hey, guys, I'm back again." ch "So. We wanna go back?" dy "Uh... I'll tell you another time. Maybe later this evening." dy "Just text me his email address later."
- L&P have said that the phones will play some role in the event, but it's not clear if they are just part of the games or if they can be used to spice things up. The only teaser that shows them is Teaser 23. The last teaser, however, gives a possible clue as to how they will be used in the game. The situation where Dylan and Aimee take a suggestive selfie could be part of the games, for example as part of 7 minutes in heaven, or it could be part of a dare or an attempt by Aimee to make her boyfriend jealous for leaving them alone.
- There is also the possibility that Christine introduced Dylan to her friends and boyfriends as a simple friend, or even as Ellie's boyfriend (to "reassure" the other boyfriends). This, with various variations, could spice up the after-party games, as truth and dare between the two siblings can add that extra layer of taboo.
- Finally, there's the theory that this whole bonus path could just be Dylan's fantasy dream, which could be an explanation for a lot of the inconsistencies in the story.
How to get the event
If you don't have the saves and you still want to play it normally with all the options, you might need to set some variables in order to get the event. You can set the variable values with Renpy console, theYou must be registered to see the links, or the Universal Renpy Mod.
As mentioned at the beginning, this events starts at the beginning of v0.190 with the choice to go out with Sophia or go to Christine's party (if you are on also on that route) or at the end of v0.185 with Sophia watching tv after bathing alone (day17_Sophia_shows_Dylan_her_breasts == False). Here are some of the variables that may be important to have set correctly.
Variable Value Meaning christine>=3Minimum condition to continue with Christine day20_Christine_invites_Dylan_to_her_partyTruethis is necessary day20_Ellie_doesnt_forgive_LoganTrue/TrueThis should be implicit with the previous one day19_Dylan_takes_the_blame_for_EllieTrueAgain this should be implicit day20_Dylan_put_his_arm_around_Ellie_in_dinerTrueThis sounds like a safer choice from the previous event day20_Dylan_kissed_Ellie_in_dinerFalseYou don't want to piss Ellie off
Thanks to all the people who have contributed with their comments and theories, shared information and, above all, the teasers (in any form, pixelated, puzzlified and whatnot
I won't be able to play it until the 14th, so for the aficionados of the other traditional "unpacking" post, I'll try to post it a week after that.
Enjoy the new release and my best wishes for a Happy New Year!!!
Players saw the last teaser for version 0.195, and this update won't go far from there.
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Therefore, the amount of Dylan/Amy scenes players can get in this update is extremely limited.
Next, Ellie has already looked at Dylan with a disdainful and challenging gaze, and this may have been the section where Dylan chooses whether to protect Ellie or watch it from Christine's side.
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I'm guessing players won't get much more than this out of the Dylan/Ellie scene.
In the end, only Christine and one other college student are left.
Lastly, this developer already added rendering in the last update, and players have seen why this developer needed the additional rendering.
I suspect we'll see the same pattern in this update.
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You did an amazing job here! I remember you found the free version of these AI voices for the event. How much would it cost if the whole game was covered by AI voices?
It gives the impression you are watching a movie!
If ran in real time Sophia / Dylan part I is 2:15 and part II 2:30.
Part I is offered for free (no voices) and split in 2 videos.
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I do believe the museum college guys should be removed completely as well, but I do wonder if it's there to open the door more between Patricia and Sophia, not that I think its needed, Patricia is already there and the corruption from others can have Sophia confide in Patricia and then find out Patricia always had a crush on her.
However, I still say remove the museum guys and just have them never call, maybe at some point have Sophia out in about as part of another scene, then she sees them with girlfriends and figures that is why they didn't call, she is thankful they didn't.
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so this update is going to be meaningless, this dev is dumb. Also, if you play the game you can see that Sophie is clearly into Sam not Dylan, everything about Dylan feels forced it feels like she just go with it not to upset Dylan, but with Sam she is like in love with him she initiated first many times, so the last 2 Dylan event was meaningless and now this is going to be another meaningless update, dumb dev.
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Is the removing of the side jobs something L&P said or is it just what people assumed? The last I remember reading about it was L&P saying the Ava kids side job was his favorite event or something like that because it was his kink.
I guess it depends what you want from the game. I am not playing this game to see a romantic love story about a wife falling in love with a kid. I want her to get corrupted and get dicked by as many people as possible in the end. For that reason Sam's events are kind of the worse for me, Dylan somewhere in the middle (because of the incest factor having a big corruption factor but Dylan being a dweeb is taking the fun out of it).
same, i want to see her corrupt, just saying that she is falling for Sam, which is also why i said dumb dev, he turn it into a love story, i like the tutor side job and now there is rumor that it will be removed, this is getting out of hand, i think the dev just don't know what to do anymore. This upcoming update will not even include Sophie? that's just ridiculous.
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As usual, people draw conclusions from rumors. And even more, they mix things up a bit.
There's a desire to remove events to speed up the dev. So it could be a side job or both but for what I know, the shotas job is much more appreciated than the old guys one.
On the other hand, the shotas job has to be removed from the Steam version, but that doesn't mean it will be removed from the *cough* Patreon *cough* version.
For me, nothing is set in stone yet. And if it is, only L&P knows.
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Are you sure that "this" and "next" weren't just used incorrectly? Why would L&P post a teaser whose content is not part of the currently advertised update?
Anyway, I also think that unfortunately there won't be much action in this update. But why "In the end, only Christine and one other college student are left" is not clear to me. Is there a post from L&P on this that I have overlooked, or is this part of your speculation?
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I'm not sure he knows
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It looks like L&P has understood that AWAM needs a little more streamlining. There are just far too many side stories that don't really revolve around Sophia in her role as "A Wife and Mother".
The two side jobs are ideal for deletion, as they have zero connection to the other events in the game. It must also be said that if the Steam version is actually successful, there is little reason to create additional content for Patreon. It would just be another reason to focus even more on the content that really moves the main story forward.
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I have given up on talking to you and I cannot match your intelligence level.I didn't have time to prepare anything special so I thought about posting a very special bonus teaser just before the update release.
And before anyone asks, yes, this render is actually from the next update
I told you how far away the Dylan/Sophia sex scene is, I told you what the Dylan/Ellie relationship is, and I told you how far along the threesome(Dylan/Ellie/Sophia) is in the story.
Nevertheless, you kept repeating the same thing and did not make any effort to provide evidence or valid logic.
My conclusion is that conversation with you is of no value.
So please ignore my post and have a nice conversation with others.
(Regardless of whether I'm right or wrong)
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't. It's not so easy and when you see the big event to be released, you can tell it's not in his nature to cut things
That's why I said I thought nothing was set in stone.
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Even if shota is L$P’s kink, that won’t fly on Steam, so probly why he’s ending the side jobs and making characters look older
Is there any chance to get the next update on Friday?
So you think you're particularly clever? You should really read up on the "Dunning-Kruger effect".
Anyway, I asked a few simple questions that might indicate some weaknesses in your interpretation. I have no idea whether this is really the case. But if you are really mixing up assumptions and facts, then you are the one who should provide evidence, not me. For example, I have not read everything L&P has ever written, hence the question of whether your claims are covered anywhere by his comments.