VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[bayrischman]

TUESDAY

 

[vjmaddox]

in next update will he finish the entire evening event or just sophia/dylan part1?

 

[Kevin Gallo]

yesterday, i started the game with part 1 and part 2 and i finished it.the game was wonderfull really beutiful.this game has a lot of potential , i hope that in the end of this game Sophia will become a stupid milf bimbo with platinum blonde hair ,with plastic surgeries, for example ,fake lips,breast and ass ,but also with a sexier style ,for example high heels,bimbo clothes ,but this for the far and final part. maybe during quest 7 or 8 she could start getting surgeries

 

[Alley_Cat]

in next update will he finish the entire evening event or just sophia/dylan part1?

Bookmark this post for all the answers you'll need. But there are 4 more updates to finish off the evening.

 

[yura48]

Игра очень интересная. Разветвление сюжета из-за твоих решений в принципе вещь тоже не самая плохая. Но не без минусов. Сейчас выходят обновления, для меня, практически пустые, потому что ранее ты сделал другой выбор. Это грустно. Ждёшь обновления, а в итоге, то что в обновление тебе не доступно.
Прошу, у кого есть возможность, скиньте сохранение, где София идёт в гости к Сэму.
Такая интригующая концовка в прошлом обновление, а продолжение посмотреть не могу.

 

[hzjujk]

yesterday, i started the game with part 1 and part 2 and i finished it.the game was wonderfull really beutiful.this game has a lot of potential , i hope that in the end of this game Sophia will become a stupid milf bimbo with platinum blonde hair ,with plastic surgeries, for example ,fake lips,breast and ass ,but also with a sexier style ,for example high heels,bimbo clothes ,but this for the far and final part. maybe during quest 7 or 8 she could start getting surgeries

Are you serious?

 

[palmtrees89]

any idea if this will be a big event?

Pretty sure, yes. The next 2 updates are supposed to be major events of the PD as far as I know. And since L&P once again said how Dylan is one of his favourite characters, I doubt it's gonna be small. Especially as it's the first Dylan+Sophia event in a year and a half or so.

 

[keefer43]

That's not what I meant. There's still a lot missing, you're right about that. But there is no lack of story. The developer has not yet implemented many things. But the plans are already well thought out on his desk. He does not spontaneously decide what to include in each update.

Sorry - there's no real plan. L&P lurches from one scene to the next inventing and altering things as he goes along. I'm afraid you might be in for a rude awakening. His coy answers to many questions are just a game that he plays - there really isn't much of a plan at all. I wish there was.

 

[xxxorro]

Ok, let's try to put some pieces together and unpack this v0.180.

Let's start with the numbers. There were 293 renders in the end, 33 for the resolution of the cliffhanger in Sam's event, and 260 for the hairdresser event. That makes a total of 462 renders for Sam's event. If you are interested in statistics, here is an updated graph for the top 15 events in terms of renders. Sam's is a solid second and the hairdresser event is 9th, a not-so-short event, after all.



The cliffhanger

In the end, the cliffhanger, without much surprise, turned out to be a nothing burger. As in many tv-series and movies, Sam managed to close the door before Julia could see. Adding a new superpower to his already rich set of skills

As for the event itself, here are some random observations:

• Sophia will continue the romance only if she looks at the drawing and rewards him with a kiss. There is a little inconsistency between the code and the walkthrough: in the code, she continues no matter the kiss. This will be probably fixed in the next release.Everything is fine, no bug!
  
  
• We noted in the previous release that Sophia could progress with Sam (remove the bra when they are in bed) only if she didn't have sex with Liam in the office and after the casino night. That left out the possible sex the night before the prison visit (PD 11) and now that condition day18_Sophia_Liam_had_sex_on_day18 has been added as well. So be aware if you are not replaying from the gallery.
  
  
• There were many speculations about the possibility of someone watching from the Parker house what happened in Sam's bedroom. Especially after the very last minute teaser of v0.180 in which Sophia and Dylan were in the car, seemingly talking about something embarrassing. Now we know that Dylan was not watching, as Sophia subtlly asked him when she realized that he could have been at home the whole time. There should be no surprises about this, it would be a horrible retro-fitting if at some point in the future we learn the opposite (especially considering Dylan's thoughts at the end of the next event).
  That doesn't mean that nobody was watching, though. After all... nobody knows yet
  
  
• For once, there is a nice transition between the events, with Sophia having some thoughts and processing what happened. Well, at least if one was playing Sam's event.
  
  
• As for the aftermath of Sam's event, we see that Sophia embraced this juvenile secret-girlfriend relationship. Although, we know that next event with Sam on PD 14 will be short and focused on the cello lesson and that Sophia will try to cool things off to protect her marriage.
  
  
• One question remain, though, and it is about the branches of the story with the other choices in the hot tub event: Sam's event could happen only if she hid him in the hot tub, but even for the other choices she said she wanted to talk with him. One possibility could be that, for those two branches that still need some resolution the early and short event with Ellie will be all about trying to setting her up with Sam to avoid any further problems (and, in case, for this could also happen if Sophia refused to go further with Sam at any moment during the cello lesson).

The hairdresser event

At the beginning of the new event, while Sophia processes what happened, we discover that the reason for the trip to Claire is to impress Liam for the upcoming romantic night out. This is the first time it is mentioned, probably because it would have spoiled the evening events (?).

Then we found Dylan in the living room, either just arrived home or just brought home by Patricia (who we don't get to see ) from the boarding school. And here Sophia realizes the risk she took in Sam's bedroom.

As expected, the event is splitted in two sub-events, following Sophia/Claire at the salon and Dylan/Marie. While there is no choice of POV as in the yoga event, the choices made back then have some influence on the events.

Sophia/Claire

To get the full event with Claire, one needs to have played Sophia's POV in the yoga event. Only in this case, she can allow Claire to touch her breasts and get a lesbian point. In particular, the requirements are:

• 14 patricia points to get to the choice
• at least 10 lesbian point to accept.

On the other hand, the massage with the lotion will happen anyways, and, as usual, you need more filthy points than good_wife points to let Devon peek under the transparent cape.

Some takeaways from the Sophia/Claire event:

• as usual, the event was interrupted when things started to get spicy between them. Claire came off almost with a predatory vibe, let alone the political rant. It seems like, though, that there won't be any lesbian content with her .
  
  
• As it has been noted by many here, the thesaurus has been ransacked for the description of Sophia's breast, at times with some weird expressions. Here is a collection:
  • "She gently gave Sophia's milk dispenser a little tweak, which Sophia's body reacted with a slight shiver of goosebumps."
  • "She alternately massaged the plump, soft, round skin cushions a little more in all directions, noticing how Sophia looked a little uncertain."
  • "Devon enjoyed chatting with her, continuing to occasionally drop his gaze down at her large, exposed eye-catchers."
  • "As she chatted with Devon, she figured he seemed quite pleased with her luscious funbags and chuckled inwardly."
  • "By now, her top had slipped even further down, revealing her twins in all their glory through the sheer fabric."
  • "They continued to talk whilst Devon kept making eye contact with both her and her twins."
  • "On one hand, he wanted to smack this slimy creep. On the other hand, it aroused him seeing him flirt with his mom while her voluptuous, nude titties were poking out in his direction, free for that guy to devour them with his lecherous glances."
  • "Well, there're certainly worse things than two guys seeing your hooters for a second. Shit happens, I guess."
  • (for Marie) "As hard as it was, Dylan tore his gaze from the girl's adorable pleasure melons and tried to have a normal conversation with her again."

• This might be the (usual) personal rant and nitpicking, but again there were some opportunities to include some inner thoughts for Sophia to improve the game immersion and make a link with past events. For example when Sophia says that her breasts have never been touched by another woman like that:
  
  she could have at least thought about Ellie, Julia or Nathalie, according to the path.
  Or, again, in this case
  
  it is not really true considering for example the sauna event with Vicky or even the 3rd task. Ok, the context and the situation might have been different but it wouldn't have hurt to have this kind of connection.

• In any case, regarding this last passage, we can note that this update give us a Sophia more open to exhibitionism in public and to get herself engaged in erotic situations. We'll see where this may lead.

Dylan/Marie

Similarly to Sophia/Claire, this event requires to have played Dylan's POV during the yoga event, so that he can get the 3 marie points that will be necessary to complete this event.

The other important condition is that Dylan "borrows" money from Sophia's wallet at the very beginning, otherwise he won't be able to tip the waitress (thus impressing Marie and getting the points) and pay for the laundry and get to see Marie without bra.

"Borrowing" money is an interesting choice, story-wise. It seems like there will be more to it (he cannot have spent that much for the ice-creams and the laundry! ). We also know from L&P answers that he will have to return the money the day after, otherwise Sophia will get mad.
This **could** mean that the rest of the money could still play a role in the next events (e.g. buying the booze for the party) or he will have to find a way to earn (or win) the money back somehow.


The "new feeling"

The end of the event is probably the "surprise" of the whole update. L&P already hinted before the release that the cuckold points might come into play sooner than we might have thought. Not to mention the last-minute teaser that we all interpreted as proof that Dylan was watching Sam's bedroom.

In any case, this event seems to mark the start of the cuckold route. While before there were only bland choices to collect the points and some dialogues depending on them, from Dylan's thoughts it seems that the next time he will really go to the bottom of it to test Sophia.
Now, before we get started with wild speculations (we did it already! ), L&P has already clarified that the evening events with Sophia will be reserved for Dylan's progression, without cuckold events.

Interestingly, what happens in this event, cuckold included, can be played in the boarding school route. Which could mean that, while the boarding school path prevents any further interaction with Sophia, the cuckolding path **could** still be available in this route as well. The answer L&P gave to this question *seems* to be in that direction but the phrasing does not resolve all ambiguities.

The other aspect to consider is how Dylan will play out this cuckold thing. Will he scheme something from the beginning to put Sophia to test, or will it take the chance when the situation presents and either let it happen or push Sophia in some sort of situation?
One of the candidates is surely the soccer team and the events on the afternoon of PD14 when Sophia will drive Dylan to the football match. We got confirmation that Darnell (one of the teammates) will play a role there, as he did already in the past when he made some comments about Sophia in Dylan's presence. That could be one of the possibilities for the cuckold route.

And, btw, you might have noticed that Dylan said to Marie that the football match was the next day at lunchtime, while we were told by Sophia it was at 3:30pm during the tutoring event. Fear not, L&P's definition of lunchtime is way much looser than my definition of breakfast during the weekend

What's next

This update gave us also a little glimpse of what could happen in the evening events between Sophia and Dylan. Sophia is supposed to meet Liam for a romantic dinner. The easiest guess would be that the dinner is canceled to Sophia's great disappointment because e.g. Liam is stuck at work or some other unexpected event.
Following the typical cliché, Dylan could be helping with the dress choice at first, only to find himself consoling and cheering up her mother or even replacing Liam for the dinner out. And the evening could continue e.g. by the home pool/hot tub with a complimentary massage etc.
We do know that there will be a choice about the restaurant as L&P has indirectly confirmed that the restaurant plan might derail.

Needless to say that all speculations about a cuckold event during the dinner are now deprecated given L&P answer.

Let me finish with a cliffhanger question.
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?

 

[fidgetspinner]

Ok, let's try to put some pieces together and unpack this v0.180.

Let's start with the numbers. There were 293 renders in the end, 33 for the resolution of the cliffhanger in Sam's event, and 260 for the hairdresser event. That makes a total of 462 renders for Sam's event. If you are interested in statistics, here is an updated graph for the top 15 events in terms of renders. Sam's is a solid second and the hairdresser event is 9th, a not-so-short event, after all.
View attachment 2386564


The cliffhanger

In the end, the cliffhanger, without much surprise, turned out to be a nothing burger. As in many tv-series and movies, Sam managed to close the door before Julia could see. Adding a new superpower to his already rich set of skills

As for the event itself, here are some random observations:

• Sophia will continue the romance only if she looks at the drawing and rewards him with a kiss. There is a little inconsistency between the code and the walkthrough: in the code, she continues no matter the kiss. This will be probably fixed in the next release.
  
  
• We noted in the previous release that Sophia could progress with Sam (remove the bra when they are in bed) only if she didn't have sex with Liam in the office and after the casino night. That left out the possible sex the night before the prison visit (PD 11) and now that condition day18_Sophia_Liam_had_sex_on_day18 has been added as well. So be aware if you are not replaying from the gallery.
  
  
• There were many speculations about the possibility of someone watching from the Parker house what happened in Sam's bedroom. Especially after the very last minute teaser of v0.180 in which Sophia and Dylan were in the car, seemingly talking about something embarrassing. Now we know that Dylan was not watching, as Sophia subtlly asked him when she realized that he could have been at home the whole time. There should be no surprises about this, it would be a horrible retro-fitting if at some point in the future we learn the opposite (especially considering Dylan's thoughts at the end of the next event).
  That doesn't mean that nobody was watching, though. After all... nobody knows yet
  
  
• For once, there is a nice transition between the events, with Sophia having some thoughts and processing what happened. Well, at least if one was playing Sam's event.
  
  
• As for the aftermath of Sam's event, we see that Sophia embraced this juvenile secret-girlfriend relationship. Although, we know that next event with Sam on PD 14 will be short and focused on the cello lesson and that Sophia will try to cool things off to protect her marriage.
  
  
• One question remain, though, and it is about the branches of the story with the other choices in the hot tub event: Sam's event could happen only if she hid him in the hot tub, but even for the other choices she said she wanted to talk with him. One possibility could be that, for those two branches that still need some resolution the early and short event with Ellie will be all about trying to setting her up with Sam to avoid any further problems (and, in case, for this could also happen if Sophia refused to go further with Sam at any moment during the cello lesson).

The hairdresser event

At the beginning of the new event, while Sophia processes what happened, we discover that the reason for the trip to Claire is to impress Liam for the upcoming romantic night out. This is the first time it is mentioned, probably because it would have spoiled the evening events (?).

Then we found Dylan in the living room, either just arrived home or just brought home by Patricia (who we don't get to see ) from the boarding school. And here Sophia realizes the risk she took in Sam's bedroom.

As expected, the event is splitted in two sub-events, following Sophia/Claire at the salon and Dylan/Marie. While there is no choice of POV as in the yoga event, the choices made back then have some influence on the events.

Sophia/Claire

To get the full event with Claire, one needs to have played Sophia's POV in the yoga event. Only in this case, she can allow Claire to touch her breasts and get a lesbian point. In particular, the requirements are:

• 14 patricia points to get to the choice
• at least 10 lesbian point to accept.

On the other hand, the massage with the lotion will happen anyways, and, as usual, you need more filthy points than good_wife points to let Devon peek under the transparent cape.

Some takeaways from the Sophia/Claire event:

• as usual, the event was interrupted when things started to get spicy between them. Claire came off almost with a predatory vibe, let alone the political rant. It seems like, though, that there won't be any lesbian content with her .
  
  
• As it has been noted by many here, the thesaurus has been ransacked for the description of Sophia's breast, at times with some weird expressions. Here is a collection:
  • "She gently gave Sophia's milk dispenser a little tweak, which Sophia's body reacted with a slight shiver of goosebumps."
  • "She alternately massaged the plump, soft, round skin cushions a little more in all directions, noticing how Sophia looked a little uncertain."
  • "Devon enjoyed chatting with her, continuing to occasionally drop his gaze down at her large, exposed eye-catchers."
  • "As she chatted with Devon, she figured he seemed quite pleased with her luscious funbags and chuckled inwardly."
  • "By now, her top had slipped even further down, revealing her twins in all their glory through the sheer fabric."
  • "They continued to talk whilst Devon kept making eye contact with both her and her twins."
  • "On one hand, he wanted to smack this slimy creep. On the other hand, it aroused him seeing him flirt with his mom while her voluptuous, nude titties were poking out in his direction, free for that guy to devour them with his lecherous glances."
  • "Well, there're certainly worse things than two guys seeing your hooters for a second. Shit happens, I guess."
  • (for Marie) "As hard as it was, Dylan tore his gaze from the girl's adorable pleasure melons and tried to have a normal conversation with her again."

• This might be the (usual) personal rant and nitpicking, but again there were some opportunities to include some inner thoughts for Sophia to improve the game immersion and make a link with past events. For example when Sophia says that her breasts have never been touched by another woman like that:
  View attachment 2386697
  she could have at least thought about Ellie, Julia or Nathalie, according to the path.
  Or, again, in this case
  View attachment 2386701
  it is not really true considering for example the sauna event with Vicky or even the 3rd task. Ok, the context and the situation might have been different but it wouldn't have hurt to have this kind of connection.

• In any case, regarding this last passage, we can note that this update give us a Sophia more open to exhibitionism in public and to get herself engaged in erotic situations. We'll see where this may lead.

Dylan/Marie

Similarly to Sophia/Claire, this event requires to have played Dylan's POV during the yoga event, so that he can get the 3 marie points that will be necessary to complete this event.

The other important condition is that Dylan "borrows" money from Sophia's wallet at the very beginning, otherwise he won't be able to tip the waitress (thus impressing Marie and getting the points) and pay for the laundry and get to see Marie without bra.

"Borrowing" money is an interesting choice, story-wise. It seems like there will be more to it (he cannot have spent that much for the ice-creams and the laundry! ). We also know from L&P answers that he will have to return the money the day after, otherwise Sophia will get mad.
This **could** mean that the rest of the money could still play a role in the next events (e.g. buying the booze for the party) or he will have to find a way to earn (or win) the money back somehow.


The "new feeling"

The end of the event is probably the "surprise" of the whole update. L&P already hinted before the release that the cuckold points might come into play sooner than we might have thought. Not to mention the last-minute teaser that we all interpreted as proof that Dylan was watching Sam's bedroom.

In any case, this event seems to mark the start of the cuckold route. While before there were only bland choices to collect the points and some dialogues depending on them, from Dylan's thoughts it seems that the next time he will really go to the bottom of it to test Sophia.
Now, before we get started with wild speculations (we did it already! ), L&P has already clarified that the evening events with Sophia will be reserved for Dylan's progression, without cuckold events.

Interestingly, what happens in this event, cuckold included, can be played in the boarding school route. Which could mean that, while the boarding school path prevents any further interaction with Sophia, the cuckolding path **could** still be available in this route as well. The answer L&P gave to this question *seems* to be in that direction but the phrasing does not resolve all ambiguities.

The other aspect to consider is how Dylan will play out this cuckold thing. Will he scheme something from the beginning to put Sophia to test, or will it take the chance when the situation presents and either let it happen or push Sophia in some sort of situation?
One of the candidates is surely the soccer team and the events on the afternoon of PD14 when Sophia will drive Dylan to the football match. We got confirmation that Darnell (one of the teammates) will play a role there, as he did already in the past when he made some comments about Sophia in Dylan's presence. That could be one of the possibilities for the cuckold route.

And, btw, you might have noticed that Dylan said to Marie that the football match was the next day at lunchtime, while we were told by Sophia it was at 3:30pm during the tutoring event. Fear not, L&P's definition of lunchtime is way much looser than my definition of breakfast during the weekend

What's next

This update gave us also a little glimpse of what could happen in the evening events between Sophia and Dylan. Sophia is supposed to meet Liam for a romantic dinner. The easy guess would be that the dinner is canceled to Sophia's great disappointment because e.g. Liam is stuck at work or some other unexpected event.
Following the typical cliché, Dylan could be helping with the dress choice at first, only to find himself consoling and cheering up her mother or even replacing Liam for the dinner out. And the evening could continue e.g. by the home pool/hot tub with a complimentary massage etc.
We do know that there will be a choice about the restaurant as L&P has indirectly confirmed that the restaurant plan might derail.

Needless to say that all speculations about a cuckold event during the dinner are now deprecated given L&P answer.

Let me finish with a cliffhanger question.
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?

I left this thread a while ago. Y'all are making thesis on this VN nowadays?

 

[ancienregimele]

yesterday, i started the game with part 1 and part 2 and i finished it.the game was wonderfull really beutiful.this game has a lot of potential , i hope that in the end of this game Sophia will become a stupid milf bimbo with platinum blonde hair ,with plastic surgeries, for example ,fake lips,breast and ass ,but also with a sexier style ,for example high heels,bimbo clothes ,but this for the far and final part. maybe during quest 7 or 8 she could start getting surgeries

Surgeries? Body modification is a way to ruin AWAM IMO & I'm not talking about a few tasteful tattoos. I've been waiting for someone to come up with this, ever since the story started to degenerate. Ever since it became just another porn game & the attempt at realism was ditched. It's such a well-worn theme.

Surgery is for medical emergencies. Why women with lips that look as though they've been stung by a bee have those injections done & think they look good is a matter of taste, or lack of it but surgeries, WTF? As for the bimbo MILF concept, that stock figure of so many teen porn 3D fantasy, wish fulfilment games on F95, Sophia is already on her way down that route, courtesy of the Dev. "Fake" is just that & so is "stupid" but don't worry, if enough paying Patrons contact the Dev & say they want this & do it often enough & loud enough, it will probably happen, despite Sophia being of the opposite opinion in the shower at the yoga event.

[Anybody thinking surgery is a walk in the park....you obviously have not had any. Cue facepalms from those who've never had a girlfriend but have had major surgery to have their brain removed].

 

[Sadowdark]

What's next

This update gave us also a little glimpse of what could happen in the evening events between Sophia and Dylan. Sophia is supposed to meet Liam for a romantic dinner. The easy guess would be that the dinner is canceled to Sophia's great disappointment because e.g. Liam is stuck at work or some other unexpected event.
Following the typical cliché, Dylan could be helping with the dress choice at first, only to find himself consoling and cheering up her mother or even replacing Liam for the dinner out. And the evening could continue e.g. by the home pool/hot tub with a complimentary massage etc.
We do know that there will be a choice about the restaurant as L&P has indirectly confirmed that the restaurant plan might derail.

Needless to say that all speculations about a cuckold event during the dinner are now deprecated given L&P answer.

Let me finish with a cliffhanger question.
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?

Like L&P said, there will probably be a choice, it will be a choice who goes to that dinner with Sophia, Dylan or Liam?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Ok, let's try to put some pieces together and unpack this v0.180.

Let's start with the numbers. There were 293 renders in the end, 33 for the resolution of the cliffhanger in Sam's event, and 260 for the hairdresser event. That makes a total of 462 renders for Sam's event. If you are interested in statistics, here is an updated graph for the top 15 events in terms of renders. Sam's is a solid second and the hairdresser event is 9th, a not-so-short event, after all.
View attachment 2386564


The cliffhanger

In the end, the cliffhanger, without much surprise, turned out to be a nothing burger. As in many tv-series and movies, Sam managed to close the door before Julia could see. Adding a new superpower to his already rich set of skills

As for the event itself, here are some random observations:

• Sophia will continue the romance only if she looks at the drawing and rewards him with a kiss. There is a little inconsistency between the code and the walkthrough: in the code, she continues no matter the kiss. This will be probably fixed in the next release.
  
  
• We noted in the previous release that Sophia could progress with Sam (remove the bra when they are in bed) only if she didn't have sex with Liam in the office and after the casino night. That left out the possible sex the night before the prison visit (PD 11) and now that condition day18_Sophia_Liam_had_sex_on_day18 has been added as well. So be aware if you are not replaying from the gallery.
  
  
• There were many speculations about the possibility of someone watching from the Parker house what happened in Sam's bedroom. Especially after the very last minute teaser of v0.180 in which Sophia and Dylan were in the car, seemingly talking about something embarrassing. Now we know that Dylan was not watching, as Sophia subtlly asked him when she realized that he could have been at home the whole time. There should be no surprises about this, it would be a horrible retro-fitting if at some point in the future we learn the opposite (especially considering Dylan's thoughts at the end of the next event).
  That doesn't mean that nobody was watching, though. After all... nobody knows yet
  
  
• For once, there is a nice transition between the events, with Sophia having some thoughts and processing what happened. Well, at least if one was playing Sam's event.
  
  
• As for the aftermath of Sam's event, we see that Sophia embraced this juvenile secret-girlfriend relationship. Although, we know that next event with Sam on PD 14 will be short and focused on the cello lesson and that Sophia will try to cool things off to protect her marriage.
  
  
• One question remain, though, and it is about the branches of the story with the other choices in the hot tub event: Sam's event could happen only if she hid him in the hot tub, but even for the other choices she said she wanted to talk with him. One possibility could be that, for those two branches that still need some resolution the early and short event with Ellie will be all about trying to setting her up with Sam to avoid any further problems (and, in case, for this could also happen if Sophia refused to go further with Sam at any moment during the cello lesson).

The hairdresser event

At the beginning of the new event, while Sophia processes what happened, we discover that the reason for the trip to Claire is to impress Liam for the upcoming romantic night out. This is the first time it is mentioned, probably because it would have spoiled the evening events (?).

Then we found Dylan in the living room, either just arrived home or just brought home by Patricia (who we don't get to see ) from the boarding school. And here Sophia realizes the risk she took in Sam's bedroom.

As expected, the event is splitted in two sub-events, following Sophia/Claire at the salon and Dylan/Marie. While there is no choice of POV as in the yoga event, the choices made back then have some influence on the events.

Sophia/Claire

To get the full event with Claire, one needs to have played Sophia's POV in the yoga event. Only in this case, she can allow Claire to touch her breasts and get a lesbian point. In particular, the requirements are:

• 14 patricia points to get to the choice
• at least 10 lesbian point to accept.

On the other hand, the massage with the lotion will happen anyways, and, as usual, you need more filthy points than good_wife points to let Devon peek under the transparent cape.

Some takeaways from the Sophia/Claire event:

• as usual, the event was interrupted when things started to get spicy between them. Claire came off almost with a predatory vibe, let alone the political rant. It seems like, though, that there won't be any lesbian content with her .
  
  
• As it has been noted by many here, the thesaurus has been ransacked for the description of Sophia's breast, at times with some weird expressions. Here is a collection:
  • "She gently gave Sophia's milk dispenser a little tweak, which Sophia's body reacted with a slight shiver of goosebumps."
  • "She alternately massaged the plump, soft, round skin cushions a little more in all directions, noticing how Sophia looked a little uncertain."
  • "Devon enjoyed chatting with her, continuing to occasionally drop his gaze down at her large, exposed eye-catchers."
  • "As she chatted with Devon, she figured he seemed quite pleased with her luscious funbags and chuckled inwardly."
  • "By now, her top had slipped even further down, revealing her twins in all their glory through the sheer fabric."
  • "They continued to talk whilst Devon kept making eye contact with both her and her twins."
  • "On one hand, he wanted to smack this slimy creep. On the other hand, it aroused him seeing him flirt with his mom while her voluptuous, nude titties were poking out in his direction, free for that guy to devour them with his lecherous glances."
  • "Well, there're certainly worse things than two guys seeing your hooters for a second. Shit happens, I guess."
  • (for Marie) "As hard as it was, Dylan tore his gaze from the girl's adorable pleasure melons and tried to have a normal conversation with her again."

• This might be the (usual) personal rant and nitpicking, but again there were some opportunities to include some inner thoughts for Sophia to improve the game immersion and make a link with past events. For example when Sophia says that her breasts have never been touched by another woman like that:
  View attachment 2386697
  she could have at least thought about Ellie, Julia or Nathalie, according to the path.
  Or, again, in this case
  View attachment 2386701
  it is not really true considering for example the sauna event with Vicky or even the 3rd task. Ok, the context and the situation might have been different but it wouldn't have hurt to have this kind of connection.

• In any case, regarding this last passage, we can note that this update give us a Sophia more open to exhibitionism in public and to get herself engaged in erotic situations. We'll see where this may lead.

Dylan/Marie

Similarly to Sophia/Claire, this event requires to have played Dylan's POV during the yoga event, so that he can get the 3 marie points that will be necessary to complete this event.

The other important condition is that Dylan "borrows" money from Sophia's wallet at the very beginning, otherwise he won't be able to tip the waitress (thus impressing Marie and getting the points) and pay for the laundry and get to see Marie without bra.

"Borrowing" money is an interesting choice, story-wise. It seems like there will be more to it (he cannot have spent that much for the ice-creams and the laundry! ). We also know from L&P answers that he will have to return the money the day after, otherwise Sophia will get mad.
This **could** mean that the rest of the money could still play a role in the next events (e.g. buying the booze for the party) or he will have to find a way to earn (or win) the money back somehow.


The "new feeling"

The end of the event is probably the "surprise" of the whole update. L&P already hinted before the release that the cuckold points might come into play sooner than we might have thought. Not to mention the last-minute teaser that we all interpreted as proof that Dylan was watching Sam's bedroom.

In any case, this event seems to mark the start of the cuckold route. While before there were only bland choices to collect the points and some dialogues depending on them, from Dylan's thoughts it seems that the next time he will really go to the bottom of it to test Sophia.
Now, before we get started with wild speculations (we did it already! ), L&P has already clarified that the evening events with Sophia will be reserved for Dylan's progression, without cuckold events.

Interestingly, what happens in this event, cuckold included, can be played in the boarding school route. Which could mean that, while the boarding school path prevents any further interaction with Sophia, the cuckolding path **could** still be available in this route as well. The answer L&P gave to this question *seems* to be in that direction but the phrasing does not resolve all ambiguities.

The other aspect to consider is how Dylan will play out this cuckold thing. Will he scheme something from the beginning to put Sophia to test, or will it take the chance when the situation presents and either let it happen or push Sophia in some sort of situation?
One of the candidates is surely the soccer team and the events on the afternoon of PD14 when Sophia will drive Dylan to the football match. We got confirmation that Darnell (one of the teammates) will play a role there, as he did already in the past when he made some comments about Sophia in Dylan's presence. That could be one of the possibilities for the cuckold route.

And, btw, you might have noticed that Dylan said to Marie that the football match was the next day at lunchtime, while we were told by Sophia it was at 3:30pm during the tutoring event. Fear not, L&P's definition of lunchtime is way much looser than my definition of breakfast during the weekend

What's next

This update gave us also a little glimpse of what could happen in the evening events between Sophia and Dylan. Sophia is supposed to meet Liam for a romantic dinner. The easy guess would be that the dinner is canceled to Sophia's great disappointment because e.g. Liam is stuck at work or some other unexpected event.
Following the typical cliché, Dylan could be helping with the dress choice at first, only to find himself consoling and cheering up her mother or even replacing Liam for the dinner out. And the evening could continue e.g. by the home pool/hot tub with a complimentary massage etc.
We do know that there will be a choice about the restaurant as L&P has indirectly confirmed that the restaurant plan might derail.

Needless to say that all speculations about a cuckold event during the dinner are now deprecated given L&P answer.

Let me finish with a cliffhanger question.
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?

Would it not be Alyssa possibly bringing Dylan back from boarding school, instead of Patricia?

 

[xxxorro]

Would it not be Alyssa possibly bringing Dylan back from boarding school, instead of Patricia?

I don't know what you mean but that's what the script says

if day18_Dylan_is_in_boarding_school:
    s "Hey, honey. I'm so happy that you're home. I was actually supposed to pick you up tomorrow morning from boarding school."
    s "But why didn't you let me know? I would have picked you up!"
    dy "It's fine. I know how busy you are, Mom. Aunt Patricia brought me here."
    s "Oh, that was really nice of her."
else:
    if day20_Sophia_will_amaze_her_parents:
        "And there, it suddenly hit her like a quick blow..."
        "What if he saw her through the window with Sam?"
        s "Hey, sweety. I... I didn't know you were home. How... long have you been there?"
        dy "Just arrived."
        "Sophia sighed with relief. This reduced the likelihood that he could have seen her, especially since his room was on the opposite side of Sam's room anyway."
    else:
        s "Hey, sweety. I didn't know you were home. Everything alright?"
        dy "Uh... yeah?"

In any case, we don't get to see either of them

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't know what you mean but that's what the script says

if day18_Dylan_is_in_boarding_school:
    s "Hey, honey. I'm so happy that you're home. I was actually supposed to pick you up tomorrow morning from boarding school."
    s "But why didn't you let me know? I would have picked you up!"
    dy "It's fine. I know how busy you are, Mom. Aunt Patricia brought me here."
    s "Oh, that was really nice of her."
else:
    if day20_Sophia_will_amaze_her_parents:
        "And there, it suddenly hit her like a quick blow..."
        "What if he saw her through the window with Sam?"
        s "Hey, sweety. I... I didn't know you were home. How... long have you been there?"
        dy "Just arrived."
        "Sophia sighed with relief. This reduced the likelihood that he could have seen her, especially since his room was on the opposite side of Sam's room anyway."
    else:
        s "Hey, sweety. I didn't know you were home. Everything alright?"
        dy "Uh... yeah?"

In any case, we don't get to see either of them

Haven't played the update, I was just assuming. No worries.

 

[none300]

Will the next 2 updates(with Dylan) be equally hot or just one?

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Those that contribute to his work on Patreon or elsewhere are only paying for monthly access to what L&P provide.

Exactly. You (probably unintentionally) nailed it.
Also, it is a transaction - no matter if you call it patronage as in seller-buyer, or as in mecenas-artist relation. Even in the latter case, which was predominant hundreds of years ago in every palace, if an artist wasn't delivering on regular basis, they were kicked out without mercy.

 

[CSK92]

Who knows, I think he's in this phase now

You need to add a Milking%

 

[Serreos]

Yup. L&P could of said that he likes the school setting in general with Sophia teaching her students including Aiden's Blackmail, Zac, Jennifer etc. but he's particularly fond of a route involving literal children instead. Not going to blame anyone for their kinks, but I sometimes do wonder what most people here would think of that route if it were a male MC "teaching" little girls.

if it were a male MC "teaching" little girls, women would love that. And the game would be played by women .Now WE love it and we play it .
(not perfect english but i think you understand what i say)

 

[tonystark7587]

Ok, let's try to put some pieces together and unpack this v0.180.

Let's start with the numbers. There were 293 renders in the end, 33 for the resolution of the cliffhanger in Sam's event, and 260 for the hairdresser event. That makes a total of 462 renders for Sam's event. If you are interested in statistics, here is an updated graph for the top 15 events in terms of renders. Sam's is a solid second and the hairdresser event is 9th, a not-so-short event, after all.
View attachment 2386564


The cliffhanger

In the end, the cliffhanger, without much surprise, turned out to be a nothing burger. As in many tv-series and movies, Sam managed to close the door before Julia could see. Adding a new superpower to his already rich set of skills

As for the event itself, here are some random observations:

• Sophia will continue the romance only if she looks at the drawing and rewards him with a kiss. There is a little inconsistency between the code and the walkthrough: in the code, she continues no matter the kiss. This will be probably fixed in the next release.
  
  
• We noted in the previous release that Sophia could progress with Sam (remove the bra when they are in bed) only if she didn't have sex with Liam in the office and after the casino night. That left out the possible sex the night before the prison visit (PD 11) and now that condition day18_Sophia_Liam_had_sex_on_day18 has been added as well. So be aware if you are not replaying from the gallery.
  
  
• There were many speculations about the possibility of someone watching from the Parker house what happened in Sam's bedroom. Especially after the very last minute teaser of v0.180 in which Sophia and Dylan were in the car, seemingly talking about something embarrassing. Now we know that Dylan was not watching, as Sophia subtlly asked him when she realized that he could have been at home the whole time. There should be no surprises about this, it would be a horrible retro-fitting if at some point in the future we learn the opposite (especially considering Dylan's thoughts at the end of the next event).
  That doesn't mean that nobody was watching, though. After all... nobody knows yet
  
  
• For once, there is a nice transition between the events, with Sophia having some thoughts and processing what happened. Well, at least if one was playing Sam's event.
  
  
• As for the aftermath of Sam's event, we see that Sophia embraced this juvenile secret-girlfriend relationship. Although, we know that next event with Sam on PD 14 will be short and focused on the cello lesson and that Sophia will try to cool things off to protect her marriage.
  
  
• One question remain, though, and it is about the branches of the story with the other choices in the hot tub event: Sam's event could happen only if she hid him in the hot tub, but even for the other choices she said she wanted to talk with him. One possibility could be that, for those two branches that still need some resolution the early and short event with Ellie will be all about trying to setting her up with Sam to avoid any further problems (and, in case, for this could also happen if Sophia refused to go further with Sam at any moment during the cello lesson).

The hairdresser event

At the beginning of the new event, while Sophia processes what happened, we discover that the reason for the trip to Claire is to impress Liam for the upcoming romantic night out. This is the first time it is mentioned, probably because it would have spoiled the evening events (?).

Then we found Dylan in the living room, either just arrived home or just brought home by Patricia (who we don't get to see ) from the boarding school. And here Sophia realizes the risk she took in Sam's bedroom.

As expected, the event is splitted in two sub-events, following Sophia/Claire at the salon and Dylan/Marie. While there is no choice of POV as in the yoga event, the choices made back then have some influence on the events.

Sophia/Claire

To get the full event with Claire, one needs to have played Sophia's POV in the yoga event. Only in this case, she can allow Claire to touch her breasts and get a lesbian point. In particular, the requirements are:

• 14 patricia points to get to the choice
• at least 10 lesbian point to accept.

On the other hand, the massage with the lotion will happen anyways, and, as usual, you need more filthy points than good_wife points to let Devon peek under the transparent cape.

Some takeaways from the Sophia/Claire event:

• as usual, the event was interrupted when things started to get spicy between them. Claire came off almost with a predatory vibe, let alone the political rant. It seems like, though, that there won't be any lesbian content with her .
  
  
• As it has been noted by many here, the thesaurus has been ransacked for the description of Sophia's breast, at times with some weird expressions. Here is a collection:
  • "She gently gave Sophia's milk dispenser a little tweak, which Sophia's body reacted with a slight shiver of goosebumps."
  • "She alternately massaged the plump, soft, round skin cushions a little more in all directions, noticing how Sophia looked a little uncertain."
  • "Devon enjoyed chatting with her, continuing to occasionally drop his gaze down at her large, exposed eye-catchers."
  • "As she chatted with Devon, she figured he seemed quite pleased with her luscious funbags and chuckled inwardly."
  • "By now, her top had slipped even further down, revealing her twins in all their glory through the sheer fabric."
  • "They continued to talk whilst Devon kept making eye contact with both her and her twins."
  • "On one hand, he wanted to smack this slimy creep. On the other hand, it aroused him seeing him flirt with his mom while her voluptuous, nude titties were poking out in his direction, free for that guy to devour them with his lecherous glances."
  • "Well, there're certainly worse things than two guys seeing your hooters for a second. Shit happens, I guess."
  • (for Marie) "As hard as it was, Dylan tore his gaze from the girl's adorable pleasure melons and tried to have a normal conversation with her again."

• This might be the (usual) personal rant and nitpicking, but again there were some opportunities to include some inner thoughts for Sophia to improve the game immersion and make a link with past events. For example when Sophia says that her breasts have never been touched by another woman like that:
  View attachment 2386697
  she could have at least thought about Ellie, Julia or Nathalie, according to the path.
  Or, again, in this case
  View attachment 2386701
  it is not really true considering for example the sauna event with Vicky or even the 3rd task. Ok, the context and the situation might have been different but it wouldn't have hurt to have this kind of connection.

• In any case, regarding this last passage, we can note that this update give us a Sophia more open to exhibitionism in public and to get herself engaged in erotic situations. We'll see where this may lead.

Dylan/Marie

Similarly to Sophia/Claire, this event requires to have played Dylan's POV during the yoga event, so that he can get the 3 marie points that will be necessary to complete this event.

The other important condition is that Dylan "borrows" money from Sophia's wallet at the very beginning, otherwise he won't be able to tip the waitress (thus impressing Marie and getting the points) and pay for the laundry and get to see Marie without bra.

"Borrowing" money is an interesting choice, story-wise. It seems like there will be more to it (he cannot have spent that much for the ice-creams and the laundry! ). We also know from L&P answers that he will have to return the money the day after, otherwise Sophia will get mad.
This **could** mean that the rest of the money could still play a role in the next events (e.g. buying the booze for the party) or he will have to find a way to earn (or win) the money back somehow.


The "new feeling"

The end of the event is probably the "surprise" of the whole update. L&P already hinted before the release that the cuckold points might come into play sooner than we might have thought. Not to mention the last-minute teaser that we all interpreted as proof that Dylan was watching Sam's bedroom.

In any case, this event seems to mark the start of the cuckold route. While before there were only bland choices to collect the points and some dialogues depending on them, from Dylan's thoughts it seems that the next time he will really go to the bottom of it to test Sophia.
Now, before we get started with wild speculations (we did it already! ), L&P has already clarified that the evening events with Sophia will be reserved for Dylan's progression, without cuckold events.

Interestingly, what happens in this event, cuckold included, can be played in the boarding school route. Which could mean that, while the boarding school path prevents any further interaction with Sophia, the cuckolding path **could** still be available in this route as well. The answer L&P gave to this question *seems* to be in that direction but the phrasing does not resolve all ambiguities.

The other aspect to consider is how Dylan will play out this cuckold thing. Will he scheme something from the beginning to put Sophia to test, or will it take the chance when the situation presents and either let it happen or push Sophia in some sort of situation?
One of the candidates is surely the soccer team and the events on the afternoon of PD14 when Sophia will drive Dylan to the football match. We got confirmation that Darnell (one of the teammates) will play a role there, as he did already in the past when he made some comments about Sophia in Dylan's presence. That could be one of the possibilities for the cuckold route.

And, btw, you might have noticed that Dylan said to Marie that the football match was the next day at lunchtime, while we were told by Sophia it was at 3:30pm during the tutoring event. Fear not, L&P's definition of lunchtime is way much looser than my definition of breakfast during the weekend

What's next

This update gave us also a little glimpse of what could happen in the evening events between Sophia and Dylan. Sophia is supposed to meet Liam for a romantic dinner. The easiest guess would be that the dinner is canceled to Sophia's great disappointment because e.g. Liam is stuck at work or some other unexpected event.
Following the typical cliché, Dylan could be helping with the dress choice at first, only to find himself consoling and cheering up her mother or even replacing Liam for the dinner out. And the evening could continue e.g. by the home pool/hot tub with a complimentary massage etc.
We do know that there will be a choice about the restaurant as L&P has indirectly confirmed that the restaurant plan might derail.

Needless to say that all speculations about a cuckold event during the dinner are now deprecated given L&P answer.

Let me finish with a cliffhanger question.
We know that Sophia won't have a harem, only one LI per route. Sam is now an "official" LI with the secret girlfriend deal. Dylan is supposed to get to the same level of progress as Sam by the end of the evening. Could this mean that the evening events can only happen if Sophia did not continue the relationship with Sam?

what suprise?